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Michael Cashman - Walking stick question
Eastenderstreet
09-09-2016
Could someone tell me is Michael Cashman genuinely using a walking stick in real life due to declining health or was it just used to tie in with the fact that the character was diagnosed with MS back during his original stint?
Aaron_Silver
09-09-2016
The character of Colin contracted MS in the late eighties hence the stick
Eastenderstreet
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“The character of Colin contracted MS in the late theighties hence the stick ”

Ya i was thinking that was likely the reason but was just also considering that maybe Michael needed it personally too

Thank you
kitkat1971
10-09-2016
I'm unaware of Cashman needing one in real life so imagine it was just a nod to the MS for those of us that remember the 1989 diagnosis.

I have to say, Colin is doing very well to still be able to cope with just one walking stick nearly 30 years after his diagnosis. One of my Mum Aunts and Cousin had MS, both diagnosed in their 30s and whilst they both survived into their 70s, they were in wheelchairs for the last 30 years or so.

Of course, MS does have remissions, he might just have been having a good day but he clearly still has his driving license which indicates he's doing fairly well.
Jib111
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I'm unaware of Cashman needing one in real life so imagine it was just a nod to the MS for those of us that remember the 1989 diagnosis.

I have to say, Colin is doing very well to still be able to cope with just one walking stick nearly 30 years after his diagnosis. One of my Mum Aunts and Cousin had MS, both diagnosed in their 30s and whilst they both survived into their 70s, they were in wheelchairs for the last 30 years or so.

Of course, MS does have remissions, he might just have been having a good day but he clearly still has his driving license which indicates he's doing fairly well.”

My mother had MS and can tell you after 30 years you don't have the health Collin displayed in the episode. My guess is the writers just didn't want him turning up in a wheelchair.
kitkat1971
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by Jib111:
“My mother had MS and can tell you after 30 years you don't have the health Collin displayed in the episode. My guess is the writers just didn't want him turning up in a wheelchair.”

That is pretty much what I thought from my limited knowledge of the condition - my relatives aren't people I saw very often as they lived several hundred miles away, but I don't remember either of them not being in wheelchairs and Barbara (my Mum's cousin) was only in her 40s when I was a kid and met her.

I imagine that they just didn't want to complicate the story they wanted to tell about tolerance with Colin being too bad a way due to the MS. The story would have become about that but they didn't want to ignore it completely - so the walking stick was a token gesture.

I hope your Mum copes as well as she can. It must be very hard.
The Rhydler
10-09-2016
Great continuity. Though it should have been said through expositionary dialogue how he was coping with MS
_elly001
10-09-2016
Michael Cashmam has confirmed on Twitter that the walking stick was due to continuity. He doesn't use one in real life.
bertie bundog
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I'm unaware of Cashman needing one in real life so imagine it was just a nod to the MS for those of us that remember the 1989 diagnosis.

I have to say, Colin is doing very well to still be able to cope with just one walking stick nearly 30 years after his diagnosis. One of my Mum Aunts and Cousin had MS, both diagnosed in their 30s and whilst they both survived into their 70s, they were in wheelchairs for the last 30 years or so.

Of course, MS does have remissions, he might just have been having a good day but he clearly still has his driving license which indicates he's doing fairly well.”

I am a person with MS - diagnosed in 2010 but my general medical history indicates that I had had the condition for some 10 – 20 years before that.

In my case, my MS is particularly active and has caused long-term physical and cognitive damage. I do need to use a wheelchair occasionally but, for the vast majority of the time, and use either one or two elbow crutches. I voluntarily gave up my driving licence some three years after my diagnosis.

I know lots of people with MS (online and in real life) some of them are significantly worse than me but others have few, if any, noticeable, ongoing, issues. Lots can, and do, continue to drive with or without adaptations to their vehicle.

A significant minority of people I know from online fora have been diagnosed for decades and some of them have little or no immediately apparent disability.

It is not for nothing that MS is often referred to as "the snowflake disease" -- not because it only affects delicate little millennials but because it is completely different for everybody . Lesions occur in completely different part the brain and/or spinal cord with entirely individual effects. The problem is that each new relapse can completely change your situation so you don't know when a relapse could happen and you don't know how much damage it will cause.

If Colin was diagnosed in 1989 with relaxing/remitting MS he was one of the first group of patients who would have benefited from drugs that could help prevent further relapses. Although there is still no cure (and don't believe the hype about stem cells that was peddled by the media earlier this year!) there has been significant improvements in drug therapies that somebody like Colin could have benefited from. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that somebody like Colin might not have had a relapse for a number of years. I was actually quite pleased that they didn't show Colin as a "poor Cripple in a wheelchair" which is the usual approach that soaps like EE have two long-term chronic conditions like MS.
Aaron_Silver
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by bertie bundog:
“I am a person with MS - diagnosed in 2010 but my general medical history indicates that I had had the condition for some 10 – 20 years before that.

In my case, my MS is particularly active and has caused long-term physical and cognitive damage. I do need to use a wheelchair occasionally but, for the vast majority of the time, and use either one or two elbow crutches. I voluntarily gave up my driving licence some three years after my diagnosis.

I know lots of people with MS (online and in real life) some of them are significantly worse than me but others have few, if any, noticeable, ongoing, issues. Lots can, and do, continue to drive with or without adaptations to their vehicle.

A significant minority of people I know from online fora have been diagnosed for decades and some of them have little or no immediately apparent disability.

It is not for nothing that MS is often referred to as "the snowflake disease" -- not because it only affects delicate little millennials but because it is completely different for everybody . Lesions occur in completely different part the brain and/or spinal cord with entirely individual effects. The problem is that each new relapse can completely change your situation so you don't know when a relapse could happen and you don't know how much damage it will cause.

If Colin was diagnosed in 1989 with relaxing/remitting MS he was one of the first group of patients who would have benefited from drugs that could help prevent further relapses. Although there is still no cure (and don't believe the hype about stem cells that was peddled by the media earlier this year!) there has been significant improvements in drug therapies that somebody like Colin could have benefited from. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that somebody like Colin might not have had a relapse for a number of years. I was actually quite pleased that they didn't show Colin as a "poor Cripple in a wheelchair" which is the usual approach that soaps like EE have two long-term chronic conditions like MS.”

Excellent post Sorry to hear of your diagnosis as it is a tough condition to deal with as I know three different people with different severity of it and it can be very debilitating. I hope you are able to deal with the difficulties and flourish
bertie bundog
10-09-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Excellent post Sorry to hear of your diagnosis as it is a tough condition to deal with as I know three different people with different severity of it and it can be very debilitating. I hope you are able to deal with the difficulties and flourish ”

Well, I am still here, aren't I?

Nah. Get aaht of my pub! You toilet!!!
NotoriousV
10-09-2016
Dr Legg was wrong after all! Though perhaps they should have had a shock twist with Legg making an unexpected visit only to run Colin over.
lovinjon
10-09-2016
[quote=bertie bundog;83894609]I am a person with MS - diagnosed in 2010 but my general medical history indicates that I had had the condition for some 10 – 20 years before that.

In my case, my MS is particularly active and has caused long-term physical and cognitive damage. I do need to use a wheelchair occasionally but, for the vast majority of the time, and use either one or two elbow crutches. I voluntarily gave up my driving licence some three years after my diagnosis.

I know lots of people with MS (online and in real life) some of them are significantly worse than me but others have few, if any, noticeable, ongoing, issues. Lots can, and do, continue to drive with or without adaptations to their vehicle.

A significant minority of people I know from online fora have been diagnosed for decades and some of them have little or no immediately apparent disability.

It is not for nothing that MS is often referred to as "the snowflake disease" -- not because it only affects delicate little millennials but because it is completely different for everybody . Lesions occur in completely different part the brain and/or spinal cord with entirely individual effects. The problem is that each new relapse can completely change your situation so you don't know when a relapse could happen and you don't know how much damage it will cause.

If Colin was diagnosed in 1989 with relaxing/remitting MS he was one of the first group of patients who would have benefited from drugs that could help prevent further relapses. Although there is still no cure (and don't believe the hype about stem cells that was peddled by the media earlier this year!) there has been significant improvements in drug therapies that somebody like Colin could have benefited from. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that somebody like Colin might not have had a relapse for a number of years. I was actually quite pleased that they didn't show Colin as a "poor Cripple in a wheelchair" which is the usual approach that soaps like EE have two long-term chronic conditions like MS.[/QUOT
trishvalentine
11-09-2016
I thought it was a real waste to have Sharon and Colin in the Vic at the same time and to not even have them cross
Scrabbler
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by bertie bundog:
“I am a person with MS - diagnosed in 2010 but my general medical history indicates that I had had the condition for some 10 – 20 years before that.

In my case, my MS is particularly active and has caused long-term physical and cognitive damage. I do need to use a wheelchair occasionally but, for the vast majority of the time, and use either one or two elbow crutches. I voluntarily gave up my driving licence some three years after my diagnosis.

I know lots of people with MS (online and in real life) some of them are significantly worse than me but others have few, if any, noticeable, ongoing, issues. Lots can, and do, continue to drive with or without adaptations to their vehicle.

A significant minority of people I know from online fora have been diagnosed for decades and some of them have little or no immediately apparent disability.

It is not for nothing that MS is often referred to as "the snowflake disease" -- not because it only affects delicate little millennials but because it is completely different for everybody . Lesions occur in completely different part the brain and/or spinal cord with entirely individual effects. The problem is that each new relapse can completely change your situation so you don't know when a relapse could happen and you don't know how much damage it will cause.

If Colin was diagnosed in 1989 with relaxing/remitting MS he was one of the first group of patients who would have benefited from drugs that could help prevent further relapses. Although there is still no cure (and don't believe the hype about stem cells that was peddled by the media earlier this year!) there has been significant improvements in drug therapies that somebody like Colin could have benefited from. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that somebody like Colin might not have had a relapse for a number of years. I was actually quite pleased that they didn't show Colin as a "poor Cripple in a wheelchair" which is the usual approach that soaps like EE have two long-term chronic conditions like MS.”

It's always interesting to get a personal insight into subjects like this so thanks for posting.
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