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John Barrowman says "certain egos" are blocking Torchwood's return
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/torchwo...chwood-return/
So when Barrowman was talking about certain egos in the BBC im presuming they have a problem with Gays playing a gay character on TV. He mentioned obstacles keep getting in the way when he has a way around it and it sounds like there is some prejudice in then office. I dont know why they wont bring it back, its a enjoyable show, and alot of fans enjoy it, I know id prefer it over this class spinoff but Captain Jack has been absent from who in such a long time and he really should have made a appearance in Matt Smith's tenure. |
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....but CJH he'll have aged!
FWIW, I would love a return of TW but would prefer it to be British-made this time. Children of Earth was electrifying. Miracle Day was dreadful. |
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I'd much rather see Jack's adventure as part of the Time Agency then a Torchwood return. I think the series had it's time and I can't really see where it can go unless it becomes a black op's arm of UNIT.
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Didn't John also say that Christopher Eccleston is a guy he wouldn't got to a bar with lmao.
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JB has a pretty big sized ego himself. move on man.
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http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/torchwo...chwood-return/
So when Barrowman was talking about certain egos in the BBC im presuming they have a problem with Gays playing a gay character on TV. He mentioned obstacles keep getting in the way when he has a way around it and it sounds like there is some prejudice in then office. |
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So says a big ego!
Maybe TW just wasn't popular enough...Miracle Day wasn't particularly good. The BBC certainly gave it a chance, what with the event that was Children of Earth - which was the high mark as far as TW was concerned. Sadly, I guess the execs were hoping for the same from Miracle Day and it just didn't deliver. |
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Why on Earth would anyone assume it's anything to do with his or his character's sexuality? It's about whether anyone thinks it's likely to be successful and get a big audience. I think he's mistaking fan enthusiasm for broad appeal and letting his own ego get the better of him.
Torchwood will only ever come back if RTD himself wanted to do it. That would give the project more credibility in the eyes of the "suits" who fund these things. |
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I don't doubt homophobia is still a thing even among the TV industry, but I think in this case it's more to do with "certain egos" not having enough confidence in the show. Children of Earth was the only time it really hit gold, but everything else was a bit on the divisive side, with Miracle Day being a gamble that didn't pay off.
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It needs to be picked up by Netflix or something. But maybe it can only be made with the BBC as, at least, co-producers? Whatever, a LOT of people would enjoy its return IMO.
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Why would you assume anyone in the commissioning heirarchy has a problem with John Barrowman's sexuality, there is nothing in what he says to suggest that.
As for the previous poster saying Barrowman didnt like Ecclestone I think its the other way around, Chris clashed with certain people I guess because hes a serious actor and wouldnt have as much fun as Tennant did. I didnt like the US getting their own series it should have stayed in Britain. |
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People have a problem with gays and Lesbiens these days it wouldnt suprise me if someone in the BBC didnt want Torchwood because of that.
As for the previous poster saying Barrowman didnt like Ecclestone I think its the other way around, Chris clashed with certain people I guess because hes a serious actor and wouldnt have as much fun as Tennant did. I didnt like the US getting their own series it should have stayed in Britain. Also he and Eccleston are simply hugely different personalities and I really can't imagine them in any social situation together, ever. |
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I highly doubt its about his sexuality as Pop Culture and Television in this day and age has become much more accepting of Gays and Les.
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I highly doubt its about his sexuality as Pop Culture and Television in this day and age has become much more accepting of Gays and Les.
Seriously, I'm sure it's nothing to do with John being gay! Why would you presume that, Dave? It's a very cryptic remark by JB re: "egos." but I really can't see the beeb as some sort of hotbed of homophobia! And not sure what you mean by "People have a problem with gays and lesbians these day....". There'll always be that sort sadly, but things have improved a heck of a lot since I was growing up in the Seventies/Eighties. If you told me around the time of Section 28 and the like that Gay marriage would come in under a Tory Gov I'd have reached for my butterfly net! |
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the last series was rubbish so totally killed off any interest. If they wanted it to continue they should have concentrated on quality control.
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the last series was rubbish so totally killed off any interest. If they wanted it to continue they should have concentrated on quality control.
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Miracle day was rubbish, but I think the success of Torchwood audio's, books, comics etc since it ended, prove that it very much did not kill off interest in the show overall.
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Think we've found out who the person with the big ego is...
And also Eve Myles has hinted at the return... |
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The thing is Jack is no longer immortal so John Barrowman could come back as Jack but he would have visibly aged.
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Colin Baker's Doctor has also had more success in other types of medium, namely the audios, despite not doing too well on TV. There are very different types of audiences from the television crowd when it comes to audio dramas, novels, etc. and what might work for one doesn't necessarily work for all the others. These types of medium are generally geared towards the more devoted Doctor Who fans as it is.
Yes, we all know after that it was let down badly by miracle day, but one bad/badly received series doesn't discredit an entire show. If that were the case, doctor who itself would likely have been cancelled many times over. If they announced a new series tomorrow, completely produced and set in wales, without any mention of miracle day in it, then it would still never convince those such as yourself who didn't think much of it first time around, but I think those who did like it enough to make it so successful first time around would be interested to see it back, and would support it as such. Quote:
The thing is Jack is no longer immortal so John Barrowman could come back as Jack but he would have visibly aged.
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Think we've found out who the person with the big ego is...
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Just look at all that outpouring of support for the show and people wanting it back under her comment.
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Think we've found out who the person with the big ego is...
And also Eve Myles has hinted at the return... the BBC have been insane keeping it off TV. given the need for them to make money TW is a popular format and done correctly can make them a lot of money Worldwide. It went tits up when the US network got involved. Even just 5-8 episodes a year would have been better. As long as the Quality was kept Class has turkey written all over it. only time will tell but if that turns out to be the case the BBC need to stop being so stupid and commission shows they now can make a decent return for them |
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Given that Torchwood headquarters has been blown up and most of the main characters have been killed off, it makes no sense to bring it back. The only way it might work is if they either did a reboot with a completely new set of characters or maybe went right back to Torchwood's inception in Queen Victoria's reign, which again would mean a completely new set of characters.
I think Barrowman is a poor screen actor. Every time he's onscreen, he's playing Barrowman and playing to the gallery. So if Torchwood was brought back, I'd rather it was without him. There are plenty of talented actors who could be part of a new team. Barrowman isn't needed. |
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His no show in the 50th pretty much confirmed it.
the BBC have been insane keeping it off TV. given the need for them to make money TW is a popular format and done correctly can make them a lot of money Worldwide. It went tits up when the US network got involved. Even just 5-8 episodes a year would have been better. As long as the Quality was kept Class has turkey written all over it. only time will tell but if that turns out to be the case the BBC need to stop being so stupid and commission shows they now can make a decent return for them Torchwood doesn't have an instant audience now. It's a relic. It's best forgotten. Moffat and the current team are looking forward rather than back and that's exactly what they should be doing. It's just a shame hanger on's like Barrowman (who's only levelling this solely at Steven because he didn't get an invite to the 50th) won't go away. Stick to the audios mate. |
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I very much doubt it's about his sexuality. They splurged a lot of money on Miracle Day and it was crap, why take a further risk?
Also he and Eccleston are simply hugely different personalities and I really can't imagine them in any social situation together, ever. Ripper Street and Red Dwarf have carried on via other networks and of course Doctor Who returned after it had been put to bed for over ten years, so who knows. I'd like to see it return but John Barrowman is getting on in years and could be too old to play an immortal man for much longer. |
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Given that Torchwood headquarters has been blown up and most of the main characters have been killed off, it makes no sense to bring it back. The only way it might work is if they either did a reboot with a completely new set of characters or maybe went right back to Torchwood's inception in Queen Victoria's reign, which again would mean a completely new set of characters.
I think Barrowman is a poor screen actor. Every time he's onscreen, he's playing Barrowman and playing to the gallery. So if Torchwood was brought back, I'd rather it was without him. There are plenty of talented actors who could be part of a new team. Barrowman isn't needed. |
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