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CS: The Maria/Caz storyline
I'm probably being a glutton for punishment as Maria doesn't seem to be forum flavour of the month at the moment but I'm starting to really get into this s/l now!!
Whilst Rhea Bailey failed to impress me (to put it mildly) in anything else she's done on Corrie, I do think she's beginning to settle into the role since she's been working with Samia Ghadie & there is a nice little dynamic starting to form between the two actresses/characters now!! This was brought home to me starkly during last night's episode firstly by the scene with Kate, which I'm sorry but a worse acted scene you will probably never see again this year (I hope) and then the later scenes with Maria on the sofa where we were treated to a rare glimpse that the girl can actually act & for the first time I felt an affinity with the character & began to see where she's coming from & why she's like she is!! The other thing which is absolutely delighting me about the storyline & the writing is the way they are depicting Maria's ongoing grief over all the Liam stuff, which was brought so starkly back to her by the nature of Kylie's death & which has thrown her emotions into disarray all over again!! Brilliant soap writing & a great excercise in continuity, a very rare commodity on modern Corrie!! As an aside this is exactly the type of writing I wanted & hoped for with the 'breakdown' storyline following Marcus' betrayal, but never got!! There was a line from her last night, "I don't think I've ever trusted anybody since!" Wrong imo, she trusted Marcus & that was why the betrayal hit so hard!! Pity the writers didn't cotton on then like they have now!! Anyway just thought I'd give this s/l some positive feedback!! I'm hooked on Corrie again because of it and, Kylie's demise aside, it's very rare I've been able to say that in the last four years or so!!
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I'm really enjoying it too, loved their conversation about Caz's failure to deal with normal life, and am intrigued to see how her obsession develops. It's better than whatever that one night stand with Aidan was supposed to be about, unless there's still more to come there?
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I agree with your points about Maria but I'm afraid that the actress playing Caz is one of the weakest in the history of Corrie and I just can't take any of her scenes seriously.
This is an extreme thing for me to say as I generally avoid commenting on the quality of acting but Caz is an exception. |
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I agree with your points about Maria but I'm afraid that the actress playing Caz is one of the weakest in the history of Corrie and I just can't take any of her scenes seriously.
This is an extreme thing for me to say as I generally avoid commenting on the quality of acting but Caz is an exception. I was watching that scene and felt really awkward. I was very aware that I was watching something scripted and acted, if that Makes sense, kind of like a high school play. The actress who plays Caz is just downright awful. I'm sure there were plenty of other aspiring actors who could do a damn sight better. |
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I have to agree with you.
I was watching that scene and felt really awkward. I was very aware that I was watching something scripted and acted, if that Makes sense, kind of like a high school play. The actress who plays Caz is just downright awful. I'm sure there were plenty of other aspiring actors who could do a damn sight better. |
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I cant wait for this to be over. They are both such wooden, unconvincing actors. I find Maria boring in nearly everything she does.
Corrie have written this all wrong in my opinion. I would have preferred Maria to get all bunny boiler about aiden, she's been like this before with tyrone and it would have been in character and interesting to see it play out with Auden and Eva. I'd also have liked caz and Kate to get married and make a success of it. They haven't had two married women before and could have shown a proper solid same sex couple. As usual corrie can't stop with the unnecessary drama. Gay people in soaps always seem to have one crisis after another. Corrie are doing it to Todd and billy already. There's no need. |
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I do hope they are not going to go down the route of Maria and Caz end up snogging and jumping in bed together just for a bit of attention grabbing sensationalism.
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The only positive thing is if we are meant to dislike Caz, the producers have made it easy. There is nothing likeable about her, every scene she's in is cringeworthy. The actor who plays Pat Phelan could give her some pointers on how to seem menacing and innocent at the same time.
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I have to agree with you.
I was watching that scene and felt really awkward. I was very aware that I was watching something scripted and acted, if that Makes sense, kind of like a high school play. The actress who plays Caz is just downright awful. I'm sure there were plenty of other aspiring actors who could do a damn sight better. |
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I liked Rhea Bailey as Mel Hunter in The Bill so when I saw she'd been cast as Caz in Coronation Street I was looking forward to seeing how Rhea would fare.
She works better with Maria Connor, definitely, but there's something missing. Can't place my finger on it but part of me feels the "I feel sorry for myself" attitude she seems to have isn't helping whatsoever. I am looking forward to see how far Caz goes in her obsession with Maria and fingers crossed it'll come across better on screen too? |
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I cant wait for this to be over. They are both such wooden, unconvincing actors. I find Maria boring in nearly everything she does.
Corrie have written this all wrong in my opinion. I would have preferred Maria to get all bunny boiler about aiden, she's been like this before with tyrone and it would have been in character and interesting to see it play out with Auden and Eva. I'd also have liked caz and Kate to get married and make a success of it. They haven't had two married women before and could have shown a proper solid same sex couple. As usual corrie can't stop with the unnecessary drama. Gay people in soaps always seem to have one crisis after another. Corrie are doing it to Todd and billy already. There's no need. The 'bunny boiler' storyline with Tyrone was a complete one off due to a specific circumstance ( the betrayal by Marcus with Todd) & there would be absolutely no reason for her to go like that with Aidan, or certainly not at the moment!! It was rumoured that
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As for Caz & Kate if I never have to see another scene of those two together that would suit me fine!! Now that's what I call wooden!! Also why stop at gay couples, I think the longest running current Corrie couple of any are probably Ty & Fiz at just short of four years, they just don't do settled couples of any sort for long these days!! |
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It'd be much better if Caz slowly undermines Maria's self confidence, like Charlie Stubbs did to Shelley that time. So that Maria ends up at home, not being able to cope while Caz stays there for free and 'minds' and 'protects' her from Maria's friends and family...
That would be good. Rather than the old 'give us a kiss luv', then 'oh I'm not like that', sorry....then Caz departs in a black cab from outside the Rovers at 10pm at night. |
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It'd be much better if Caz slowly undermines Maria's self confidence, like Charlie Stubbs did to Shelley that time. So that Maria ends up at home, not being able to cope while Caz stays there for free and 'minds' and 'protects' her from Maria's friends and family...
That would be good. Rather than the old 'give us a kiss luv', then 'oh I'm not like that', sorry....then Caz departs in a black cab from outside the Rovers at 10pm at night. The way saint Kate treats Caz like she murdered her puppy or something is getting so boring.
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I liked Rhea Bailey as Mel Hunter in The Bill so when I saw she'd been cast as Caz in Coronation Street I was looking forward to seeing how Rhea would fare.
She works better with Maria Connor, definitely, but there's something missing. Can't place my finger on it but part of me feels the "I feel sorry for myself" attitude she seems to have isn't helping whatsoever. I am looking forward to see how far Caz goes in her obsession with Maria and fingers crossed it'll come across better on screen too? It kind of helped me personally to at least get a bit more insight into the character & it kind of made more sense of some earlier incidents!! Basically my current view of the character is someone who has spent most of her life being made to feel inadequate (any mention she's made of her parents suggests that to me) who by joining the army & being part of a team felt she belonged at last, who learned to be resourceful but learned nothing of social skills or how to behave (hence the teling Liam aboout his Mum & Luke plus various other little incidents) and who needs someone to constantly prop her up & keep her steady both socially & emotionally now she no longer has the army!! In Maria she sees someone who is not only being kind to her & providing her with that prop, but who is also currently vulnerable & easy to manipulate!! For Maria's part, in Caz she sees someone even more messed up than she's feeling herself right now & helping Caz is making her feel better about herself!! That's my current view on the situation & I actualy think both actresses have enough of a dynamic with each other (I won't call it chemistry as that implies something sexual which is very much one way traffic from Caz atm) to at least be making it believable now!! The real 'fun' will start, I suspect, when
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I cant wait for this to be over. They are both such wooden, unconvincing actors. I find Maria boring in nearly everything she does.
Corrie have written this all wrong in my opinion. I would have preferred Maria to get all bunny boiler about aiden, she's been like this before with tyrone and it would have been in character and interesting to see it play out with Auden and Eva. I'd also have liked caz and Kate to get married and make a success of it. They haven't had two married women before and could have shown a proper solid same sex couple. As usual corrie can't stop with the unnecessary drama. Gay people in soaps always seem to have one crisis after another. Corrie are doing it to Todd and billy already. There's no need. I have to agree about how Kate is with Caz too. I don't particularly like Caz but i'm still at a loss as to what she did so bad that her fiance decided to dump her and now apparently hates her. |
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It'd be much better if Caz slowly undermines Maria's self confidence, like Charlie Stubbs did to Shelley that time. So that Maria ends up at home, not being able to cope while Caz stays there for free and 'minds' and 'protects' her from Maria's friends and family...
That would be good. Rather than the old 'give us a kiss luv', then 'oh I'm not like that', sorry....then Caz departs in a black cab from outside the Rovers at 10pm at night. Ironically at the time I think they were going to do a similar s/l with Charlie & Maria but then Bill Ward announced he was leaving so they kind of altered it to just him manipulating her into an affair behind Tracy's back That was actually one of my favourite Maria s/ls & the one that really first proved Samia's worth as an actress, rather than just a pretty face for me, she was great in it!! |
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I totally love Maria, in spite of her faults, so this thing with Caz is starting to get a bit sinister.
Is it possible that Caz could be about to 'turn' Maria? Is that even possible? I've always thought that if you're gay you were probably born that way and if you're straight you can't be 'converted'. |
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I totally love Maria, in spite of her faults, so this thing with Caz is starting to get a bit sinister.
Is it possible that Caz could be about to 'turn' Maria? Is that even possible? I've always thought that if you're gay you were probably born that way and if you're straight you can't be 'converted'.
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Think it could get quite a bit more sinister yet!!
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I totally love Maria, in spite of her faults, so this thing with Caz is starting to get a bit sinister.
Is it possible that Caz could be about to 'turn' Maria? Is that even possible? I've always thought that if you're gay you were probably born that way and if you're straight you can't be 'converted'. |
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It's a good idea for a storyline, but Caz is too dim and uncharismatic to convince me that she could manipulate people like this, especially as her explanations for any hint of something fishy are so lame - "Oh, I was walking along the street and a magic pixie was using your mobile phone and a sudden gust of wind blew it into my hand" kind-of-thing.
Not even Maria is that daft. |
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I cant wait for this to be over. They are both such wooden, unconvincing actors. I find Maria boring in nearly everything she does.
Corrie have written this all wrong in my opinion. I would have preferred Maria to get all bunny boiler about aiden, she's been like this before with tyrone and it would have been in character and interesting to see it play out with Auden and Eva. I'd also have liked caz and Kate to get married and make a success of it. They haven't had two married women before and could have shown a proper solid same sex couple. As usual corrie can't stop with the unnecessary drama. Gay people in soaps always seem to have one crisis after another. Corrie are doing it to Todd and billy already. There's no need. Caz will probably be gone soon, too. |
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Maria: an husbandless Jane Austen stock character for the digital age.
I'm not looking forward to when she blabbers all over Audreh. |
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I agree with your points about Maria but I'm afraid that the actress playing Caz is one of the weakest in the history of Corrie and I just can't take any of her scenes seriously.
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Totally agree with you, Caz couldn't look more suspicious and manipulative if she tried, there is absolutely nothing subtle about her body language.
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It's a good idea for a storyline, but Caz is too dim and uncharismatic to convince me that she could manipulate people like this, especially as her explanations for any hint of something fishy are so lame - "Oh, I was walking along the street and a magic pixie was using your mobile phone and a sudden gust of wind blew it into my hand" kind-of-thing.
Not even Maria is that daft. Though she did organise the burglary it could have gone so differently if Maria hadn't played right into her hands
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Caz looks a lot like Steph, it would have been better casting her as Steph and Luke's sister I think
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I dislike the character of Maria. She was married to a man, then had a relationship with a gay man, then married a gay immigrant (who was never heard of again) and now it appears she will have a relationship with a lesbian. Her young son must be so confused by his mother's succession of bedmates..
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Though she did organise the burglary it could have gone so differently if Maria hadn't played right into her hands
