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Don't forget the obligatory "this is what happened before the break" recaps after each ad-break.
The edit and pacing will have to be changed to fit the reduced running time. Or they ditch one of the 3 challenges and just do 2 like other posters have said they do in other overseas versions shown on commercial channels. |
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Indeed - Bake off is one of the few shows that does not do "coming up later" either.
The edit and pacing will have to be changed to fit the reduced running time. Or they ditch one of the 3 challenges and just do 2 like other posters have said they do in other overseas versions shown on commercial channels. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37349837
BBC 'fell £10m short' of keeping The Great British Bake Off |
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As I've just said on the other thread, Good Food shows repeats of earlier series' in a 1hr slot, with adverts. They retain all the challenges.
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And it also seems to be the case that the agreed price does not cover presenters or judges - these will have to be negotiated (and paid for) separately. They have paid for the format & production.
But I agree with your broader point. It seems like a staggering decision for C4 to take, especially as they are currently trying to prevent privatisation!! |
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So what do they cut out then ??
But the likeliest candidate would be the food history bits. |
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I've never seen a full episode on the channel so I don't know.
But the likeliest candidate would be the food history bits. Quote:
Some have suggested that ad-breaks at Channel 4 will ruin the experience. But the Bake Off format has already been adapted to many countries with commercial structures, and the BBC already uses little films about the histories of cakes and biscuits as internal breaks, which could be removed without much loss.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...bbc-got-burnedI bet those 'food history' bits are there to make it easy for the show to be sold to commercial channels abroad, where they can be cut out to make way for breaks. |
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Great British Bake Off on BBC 1
full hour no crappy channel logos HD version on Iplayer Great British Bake Off on C4 45 ish minutes +15 of adverts crappy advertising all over the broadcast poor SD quality on All4 |
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I find it hard to believe that Channel 4 would spend £25 million on the rights to a show without securing the talent as well.
As for the length of the show I'd imagine if a major sponsor came on board they could stretch it to 90 minutes or run it without breaks. |
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I find it hard to believe that Channel 4 would spend £25 million on the rights to a show without securing the talent as well.
As for the length of the show I'd imagine if a major sponsor came on board they could stretch it to 90 minutes or run it without breaks. Those costs had risen astronomically since they had previously owned the rights, resulting in the later "shared deal" with SKY. If Channel 4 have done nothing about nailing down the "Talent" then they have really messed up. I can imagine Mel and Sue's agent is already in talks with the BBC about them being "the New French and Saunders", sitcoms , quiz shows etc. Mel Giedroyc hosted the Strictly Tour, so there is plenty they can offer them. |
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You are not comparing like for like, we are not talking about the Olympics, (as they to my knowledge have never been on Channel 4), we are talking about the Paralympics.
The coverage has dramatically improved since they went to Channel 4, you have events shown live for starters, and then you have a great associated programme like The Last Leg, neither of which the BBC did when they had the rights to the Paralympics. So the Paralympics have most definitely improved since they went to Channel 4, so the point stands, about finding a programme that has made the switch and improved. |
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So you would have been happy for the BBC to have matched C4's £75 MILLION for three years?
That's an awful lot of money, especially when budgets are being squeezed and when the BBC is under considerable scrutiny. |
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Yep same here.
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I enjoy seeing Paul Hollywood doing his shtick, but will only watch when there is nothing else on.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37349837
BBC 'fell £10m short' of keeping The Great British Bake Off |
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An article in The Guardian mentions this:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...bbc-got-burned I bet those 'food history' bits are there to make it easy for the show to be sold to commercial channels abroad, where they can be cut out to make way for breaks. |
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But if they were now on the BBC then I am sure they would be done to the same standards as their Olympic coverage and certainly better than Channel 4.
If they now moved back to the BBC who knows what sort of coverage they would get, as it is only guesswork to suggest at this stage. |
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Apparently the BBC bought the Formula 1 rights without knowing how much it cost to cover the actual races.
Those costs had risen astronomically since they had previously owned the rights, resulting in the later "shared deal" with SKY. If Channel 4 have done nothing about nailing down the "Talent" then they have really messed up. I can imagine Mel and Sue's agent is already in talks with the BBC about them being "the New French and Saunders", sitcoms , quiz shows etc. Mel Giedroyc hosted the Strictly Tour, so there is plenty they can offer them. |
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I've never seen a full episode on the channel so I don't know.
But the likeliest candidate would be the food history bits. Quote:
An article in The Guardian mentions this:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...bbc-got-burned I bet those 'food history' bits are there to make it easy for the show to be sold to commercial channels abroad, where they can be cut out to make way for breaks. Not only are any food history sequences comparatively short, they don't appear in every programme. |
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I don't watch enough telly to have noticed, and apologies if already addressed, but is there a comparable situation where C4 have bought the rights to a show broadly similar to BO (in format, not necessarily cooking oriented) and fundamentally changed the nature of it in the way people seem certain they will here? I'm not just talking about ads, they're a given, I'm talking about changing things so that it may as well be a brand new show (and if they had any desire to do that, they could have made an original show for a damn sight less than they paid for BO)?
I seem to be in the minority who think C4 aren't actually stupid and won't mess it with to any greater extent than having ad breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if they were to extend the running time to 75 or 90 minutes. Considering the challenges themselves clock in at around +/- 10 hours, it's not as if it'll need padding, and if they can schedule it without impacting an existing highly rated show, I can't see anyone complaining, least of all the fans. The mass audience is there. C4 know it. LP know it. The advertisers know it. It'd be kamikaze for C4 and/ or LP to screw with a winning format, and despite their earlier protestations, I fully expect the four 'talents' to move with it when they see how many noughts are on the contract. |
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Maybe Channel 4 could air it between 8pm and 9.30 say.
Then have an Extra Slice type programme following until 10pm If they are doing a Celebrity Version next year, Maybe it might be something tied in with Stand Up to Cancer |
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Mel Giedroyc hosted the Strictly Tour, so there is plenty they can offer them.
Heck Mel and Sue could do The One Show together. I wonder if they could do some kind of lottery format, take the quiz element out, or at least take the generic quiz show element out, and build it around Mel and Sue. |
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Not only are any food history sequences comparatively short, they don't appear in every programme.
The fact is that the show can be broadcast in a 1hr slot with adverts, without reducing the number of challenges - contrary to what was suggested. |
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Look on the bright side, there are still six episodes in this series and two Christmas specials
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