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Old 13-09-2016, 16:54
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You could be right, but to do what? Surely the last thing British TV needs is yet another cooking or food oriented show, and I'm not sure what other genre she could move into. .
She already has a couple of cookery/baking shows.
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:56
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You could be right, but to do what? Surely the last thing British TV needs is yet another cooking or food oriented show, and I'm not sure what other genre she could move into. Paul Hollywood will be fine, his surname is very apt for his personality and could probably turn his hand to most presenting gigs.
She's in her 80's She could do a little baking show like the master classes to keep her occupied and spend her time in the garden. She doesn't need a job. Hollywood without the rest doesn't have the same draw.
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:57
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Statement from Mel & Sue:

"We were very shocked and saddened to learn yesterday evening that Bake Off will be moving from its home. We made no secret of our desire for the show to remain where it was.

"The BBC nurtured the show from its infancy and helped give it its distinctive warmth and charm, growing it from an audience of two million to nearly 15 at its peak.

"We've had the most amazing time on Bake Off, and have loved seeing it rise and rise like a pair of yeasted Latvian baps.

"We're not going with the dough. We wish all the future bakers every success."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/b...ns-mel-8826017
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:57
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Do you work? Why don't you accept half your salary instead of what you're paid? It's probably enough, don't be greedy.

I really don't get this absolutely childishly sulky attitude of "Huh, hope it fails"

It really is the oddest attitude.
The best analogy I can come up with is some people look at the BBC the way football fans do their favourite club. When a presenter, or in the case an entire TV programme, leaves for another network, they are instantly cast as ingrates/traitors, and ill will is wished upon them.
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:58
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Sunday Brunch on Channel 4 was originally on BBC and the format now is very similar.
Sunday Brunch was once called 'Something for the Weekend' which used to be shown on BBC Two every Sunday morning at 10am. Sadly the BBC lost the rights for this and it moved to Channel 4.

I'm gutted about Bake Off moving from the BBC. Surely with such a big rating winner, the BBC would have bit the bullet the paid the extra millions to keep it on BBC One. Although it should settle in it's new home on Channel 4, it will just be a shame as now we will have to contend with 5 minute advert breaks every 15 minutes.

Does the move to Channel 4 also mean Bake Off will be longer than 1 hour? If you add the add breaks, each weekly show should run for 1 hour and 15 minutes?
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:58
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She already has a couple of cookery/baking shows.
What, on the BBC in addition and un-related to Bake Off? Blimey. And people say Claudia Winkleman is on all the time !
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Old 13-09-2016, 16:59
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What a shame and lets be honest, ill be surprised if Mary and Paul remain with the show, if i were channel 4 i'd be tempted to go and ask for my money back - but we'll see how it goes and see if channel 4 can get it right
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:01
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It takes more than money to make a show successful, the chemistry between Mel and Sue worked as does the chemistry betwwen Mary and Paul. I read that the stars were not consultated during negotiations, if correct then that is a serious flaw. The perfect example is Top Gear, lose the main presenters and you lose what the show was all about.

As I have posted earlier Love Productions couldn't sell the format to anyone in the commercial sector and it took 4 years to persuade the BBC to take it on. Love Productions may have come up with the concept and produced a very good show but it was the BBC which made it the most successful show on TV. 2 million viewers in the first season would have seen it disappear from almost every commercial channel.

Good Luck with your investment if Paul or Mary or both leave too.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:03
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I bet James Martin gets involved somehow.

He no longer presents Saturday Kitchen, and is looking to get into more presenting
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:06
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Ha, the greed of the production company could have just killed the show. Change the ingredients and you wont have the same show.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:06
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They wanted £25 million a year, up from the £5 million they got last time. That is extortion, and massively overpriced. It costs £1m an episode to make Doctor Who, which has a massive special effects budget, location fees, scriptwriter fees etc etc, and they wanted £2 million an episode for a reality show with unpaid participants and a tent. The whole thing stinks.
They had the most watched TV show of 2015 on their books, of course they can demand, and obviously get, top money for it. Like any product, The Great British Bake Off had a value based on demand for it, not its production costs. Pure business.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:07
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Yes, kudos to Mel & Sue.

Now we wait to hear from Paul & Mary.
Agree.

And taking over presenting GBBO will be as " toxic" as taking over Top Gear, whatever happens, ratings will fall, and in X Factor fashion the presenters will be the scapegoats.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:08
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I bet James Martin gets involved somehow.

He no longer presents Saturday Kitchen, and is looking to get into more presenting
It's too " toxic" for any name to take over, James would have better press taking over Top Gear, and that was toxic to Chris. - or anyone.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:09
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What is stopping the BBC creating a similar show with all the key presenters ?

Could the production company of GBBO sue in that instance ?
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:10
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What is stopping the BBC Creating a similar show with all the key presenters ?

Could the production company of GBBO sue in that instance ?
Channel 4 likely would, as they have secured the rights to that format.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:11
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I bet James Martin gets involved somehow.

He no longer presents Saturday Kitchen, and is looking to get into more presenting
He's not a good presenter though, and as far as I am aware is not a baker. So there would be some difficulty there as either presenter or judge.

Although he's a bit hacked off with the BBC apparently, so who knows.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:11
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The BBC should keep Mel & Sue and create a new more light hearted Masterchef show - Masterchef: Masterbake.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:13
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What is stopping the BBC creating a similar show with all the key presenters ?

Could the production company of GBBO sue in that instance ?
What like, Pop Idol and the copy X Factor?
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:14
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I bet James Martin gets involved somehow.

He no longer presents Saturday Kitchen, and is looking to get into more presenting
Oh no, not that presenting vacuum. He's awful!
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:17
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Channel 4 likely would, as they have secured the rights to that format.
Though apparently the BBC have got a clause which stops any other broadcaster airing for the show for a year which they've chose not to utilise so if they did could that change where they stand doing that legally?
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:18
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They have decency, honesty and integrity, unlike the money grabbing directors at Love and thier big million pound dividend bonuses. Well done Mel and Sue!
You are aware Geidroyc only took the gig in the first place solely for the money, because her career was stagnating and she was virtually bankrupt.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:18
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What like, Pop Idol and the copy X Factor?
Not sure if that's an example that it can or can't be done, because Simon Fuller (Pop Idol) did sue Simon Cowell over the creation of X Factor. It was settled out of court.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:25
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You are aware Geidroyc only took the gig in the first place solely for the money, because her career was stagnating and she was virtually bankrupt.
Do you mean a presenter whose career was 'stalling' took a presenting job that happened to pan out well.

That initial action isnt 'money grabbing' it is work to pay the bills.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:25
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You are aware Geidroyc only took the gig in the first place solely for the money, because her career was stagnating and she was virtually bankrupt.
Yes, fully aware, makes her actions of integrity now even more honarable.
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Old 13-09-2016, 17:26
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They had the most watched TV show of 2015 on their books, of course they can demand, and obviously get, top money for it. Like any product, The Great British Bake Off had a value based on demand for it, not its production costs. Pure business.
More yes but they were offered £15m instead of £5m, to ask for £25m is greed to my mind . They may get it now but will it be worth it long run when they are going to lose the very elements that keep it popular and in series form it will now be off air until 2018 . Act in haste repent at leisure as they say

You are aware Geidroyc only took the gig in the first place solely for the money, because her career was stagnating and she was virtually bankrupt.
She may well have done ( very few of us have the luxury of taking jobs for the pure love of it ) that hasn't stopped her showing loyalty to the BBC that gave her the chance to get back on her feet though has it and she probably realises that this move will not go well for GBBO long term.
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