As you get my point, yes, exactly, it shows what occurs when a format is pinched.

Formats are just variations of a theme. Is Britains Got Talent any different to X-Factor when someone is singing? Is Dancing with the Stars any different to Strictly? How many Crime Dramas vary from one another? I'd love for anyone including the BBC to vary the format ever so slightly and be challenged in court. Masterbake would be perfect, instead of a tent, hold it in a proper kitchen, it is the presenters and contestants that make the show not the surroundings.

Clarkson, May and Hammond are basically going to present the same show as they did Top Gear with a few suttle changes. It will be a success because of who is presenting it. Is the BBC going to sue Amazon if it is almost identical? No.

Never heard of them and I am sure I am not alone.

Which many proponents of the BBC argued was absolute nonsense when Clarkson was gven the elbow.

"Clarkson is history. The Top Gear format is solid! Doesn't matter who presents it!" came those gleeful cries.

Funny how that tune is changed when they lose the program they like.

So the fact she has quit and not followed the money makes her simply incredible! she is standing on morals.

It seems quite likely.

So Channel 4 have paid £25 million for a programme name. It is expected they will have wanted to change the format anyway.

Is there anythinh to stop the BBC having a new baking programme and use the same people with just the format and name changed?

To continue the football analogy, Channel 4 have just bought Man Utd only to discover all the players have left.

If Mary Berry pulls out also then the success of the programme on Channel 4 is in grave doubt. Paul Hollywood has plenty of other interests, would he want to be associated with a failure? The same applies to any new people they buy, they will know there is a big chance of the programme failing and they will be forever associated with a failure.

There is nothing immoral about selling your product to the highest bidder. She will have her own reasons for not going to Channel 4, maybe even something as simple as sentiment in that she felt it was more suited to the BBC, but don't try and dress it up as them both doing something "noble" or "honourable"

Well no because its the same show just in a different country

But I agree, they should just put them on a variation of Masterchef or something, see how it goes.

Its like the exact opposite of what happened to Top Gear

I'm sure Mary Berry will love working with Davina.

Nothing original about a baking competition. I am sure someone could devise one that did not infringe any rights held by Love. Could it be done under the Masterchef 'brand'?

No, but it is immoral to not consult or inform your staff of any key decisions until they've been done

So the BBC can not even keep the Great British bake off, not all the fault of the BBC, Love Productions are being greedy, that is the problem when something becomes popular, more money is asked for and then it changes channels or changes presenters and dies.

Is there really anything worth bothering with now on the BBC? The Great British bake off was one of the better things on the BBC, even I acknowledge that, not that I was that fond of Sue Perkins to be honest.

BBC needs to sort it self out, other wise there will be more people dumping the licence.

What's everybody moaning about then?

There will be complaints from commercial companies that the BBC is damaging them by creating a programme that they had , lost and still exists on a commercial channel and the BBC would end up losing the argument.

Nothing immoral about that either. Many company owners do trade deals without first informing their staff, they aren't obliged to provide a running commentary to them. They usually inform them when the negotiations have been concluded.

Tory government policy has caused this by:-
Freezing the LF.
Adding considerable extra costs into the BBC.
Not closing the IPlayer loophole quickly.

Masterbaker .

It looks like that clause was for the main show only, hence the celeb edition next year. I would have thought that had C4 been able to start with the main show then they would have done.

Err Dancing with the stars is produced for USA by BBC Worldwide?

Yes X Factor was a rip off of pop idol.

Yes, series 1 wasn't exactly earth-shattering (and was a slightly different format too).

And just think of the double entendres around the word "Masterbake"

I think the Great British Public, can think of quite a few more names like this for the directors of Love Productions.