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Err Dancing with the stars is produced for USA by BBC Worldwide?
Yes X Factor was a rip off of pop idol. Offer Mary, Paul, Sue and Mel a good package and as someone suggested before call it MasterBake and be an extension of Masterchef but concentrating on baking. use the same set, same Kitchen, to make it a little bit different have a couple of episodes with contestants working in a bakery. Even add a judge or two with Mel and Sue hovering over them. |
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I have a newfound respect for Mel and Sue. To announce this so quickly is brave.
I too hope Mary Berry stays on the BBC as although I don't like the Great British Bake Off, her other shows are great. Paul Hollywood can be the sole judge on C4, his ego is big enough. |
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So the BBC can not even keep the Great British bake off, not all the fault of the BBC, Love Productions are being greedy, that is the problem when something becomes popular, more money is asked for and then it changes channels or changes presenters and dies.
Is there really anything worth bothering with now on the BBC? The Great British bake off was one of the better things on the BBC, even I acknowledge that, not that I was that fond of Sue Perkins to be honest. BBC needs to sort it self out, other wise there will be more people dumping the licence. By sorting itself out do you mean pay over the top for things and what anyone demands to keep a show ? one can only imagine how many threads we would have on that if they did. |
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That is exactly the point I am making rip off of X-Factor, the same show with a different name all variations on a theme. What I am pointing out the public who pay for these shows should not be held to ransom and if a broadcaster makes a huge success of a format and loses it, just do what you can to retain the main body of people and make a variation. It has never been contested in court nor is it likely to otherwise so many prescedents will be used such as is Eastenders really that different to Coronation Street or Neighbours any different to Home and Away or is there any real difference between some of the new British dramas with a Nordic Flavour.
Offer Mary, Paul, Sue and Mel a good package and as someone suggested before call it MasterBake and be an extension of Masterchef but concentrating on baking. use the same set, same Kitchen, to make it a little bit different have a couple of episodes with contestants working in a bakery. Even add a judge or two with Mel and Sue hovering over them. |
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Mastercake, please. Or Cake Off. Anything but Masterbake. Mel & Sue would implode with double entendres.
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As you say Love ( 70% owned by Sky ) being greedy , I mean going from £5m turning down £15m and wanting £25m is bloody greedy , yes people want more but that's excessive. Bearing in mind Love became a popular investment for Sky due to its growth thanks to the BBC you would think there might be some loyalty and bearing in mind most of its output has been aired on the BBC but sadly not. You see me if I was the BBC I would now say to Love well take the rest of your stuff elsewhere as well and see how far you get.
By sorting itself out do you mean pay over the top for things and what anyone demands to keep a show ? one can only imagine how many threads we would have on that if they did. |
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So the BBC couldn't afford their most popular show on tv. The most popular show on any channel in the UK. Just WTF does that say about the attitude of the BBC?
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I have a newfound respect for Mel and Sue. To announce this so quickly is brave.
I too hope Mary Berry stays on the BBC as although I don't like the Great British Bake Off, her other shows are great. Paul Hollywood can be the sole judge on C4, his ego is big enough. |
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I have a newfound respect for Mel and Sue. To announce this so quickly is brave.
I too hope Mary Berry stays on the BBC as although I don't like the Great British Bake Off, her other shows are great. Paul Hollywood can be the sole judge on C4, his ego is big enough. Quote:
Mel and Sue acted with dignity, good on them.
Watch in amazement as they sign new multi-million pound deals! |
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So the BBC couldn't afford their most popular show on tv. The most popular show on any channel in the UK. Just WTF does that say about the attitude of the BBC?
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Mel and Sue quit? Believe that, you'll believe anything. It's the hype machine in full effect! Duh!
Watch in amazement as they sign new multi-million pound deals! |
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The hand-wringing on this and other forums seems a bit ridiculous. They haven't said they are going to stop making the programme, they haven't said it's going to Sky, they haven't said they are going to change the format or the presenters. It's just going to another, FTA channel. "I'm not watching it ever again!" Please.
This is the type of thing I mean when I point some of the advantages the BBC enjoys in the current UK TV industry set-up. Fair play to them for putting the GBBO on television, but beyond that I'm not sure how much credit they deserve for the programme's success. The reality is one could put almost anything on BBC1 and the literally millions of people who have that as their default channel will at least give it a shot to see if they like it. You could put the exact same show on e.g. Channel 5, and the viewing figures would be less than half. Which will probably happen the second it goes to C4. Which is absurd, of course. But hey ho. You are right about one thing, I don't give Channel 5 the time of day. Utter tripe. I am very much a BBC type. |
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Mel and Sue quit? Believe that, you'll believe anything. It's the hype machine in full effect! Duh!
Watch in amazement as they sign new multi-million pound deals! |
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Some of us still do trust some people and not assume they are all releasing statements in order to get more money, some people do remain loyal.
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Yes, and? That's exactly the sort of bunkum I'm referring to. And trust James Corden to do a tweet including Mel's fan account. Mel doesn't have a Twitter account. |
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It would be easy for the BBC to put the 4 of them into some filmed "insert" for Saturday Kitchen.
That has revolving presenters at the moment since James Martin left. Not sure Mary would want to be bothered with a weekly live show, but Paul would probably like to have a go at presenting SK (if he has not already done it) Mel and Sue would be good regular hosts for SK - guest chefs to do the actual cooking part - they can do the talking to the celebrity guests. Plus you have the "omelette challenge" for the guest chefs which is a bit of competition Edit : Forgot to add - CHannel 4 siging a deal to buy the show without the Presenters and judges being signed up - Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I am off to the "Worst decisions in TV history" thread |
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That may be true, but we can only go on what the point was initially, and that was has a programme improved since making the move from BBC to Channel 4, and the Paralympics have done just that, and they have vastly improved.
If they now moved back to the BBC who knows what sort of coverage they would get, as it is only guesswork to suggest at this stage.
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Well more fool you. Don't you know how the media works?
Yes, and? That's exactly the sort of bunkum I'm referring to. And trust James Corden to do a tweet including Mel's fan account. Mel doesn't have a Twitter account. One look at Sue Perkins twitter and that statement and you can see they're pro GBBO on the BBC |
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Well more fool you. Don't you know how the media works?
Yes, and? That's exactly the sort of bunkum I'm referring to. And trust James Corden to do a tweet including Mel's fan account. Mel doesn't have a Twitter account. |
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By sorting itself out do you mean pay over the top for things and what anyone demands to keep a show ? one can only imagine how many threads we would have on that if they did.
The BBC refuse to pay the inflated cost- "How dare the BBC refuse to pay the £25m asked. The BBC is meaningless, shut it down" The BBC give in and pay the £25m a year- "How dare the BBC pay such an obscene about of licence payers money on one show. The BBC are pissing away our, money shut it down". Let's be honest, nothing short of the BBC announcing they're closing down will satisfy the moaners on here. |
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The best analogy I can come up with is some people look at the BBC the way football fans do their favourite club. When a presenter, or in the case an entire TV programme, leaves for another network, they are instantly cast as ingrates/traitors, and ill will is wished upon them.
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The attitudes you need to question are those of the tories towards the appropriate funding of ALL public services as well as the greedy attitudes held by private operators such as Love Productions.
All at the licence payer's expense. And the Bbc's given this kind of gutted it. But it's also where Studios may possibly make some difference, ie producing content the Bbc can flog so it doesn't need as much public money. As for boycotting Love.. The Bbc's already got a 30+hr hole to fill in it's schedules, and for anyone fed up with the Bbc being a food channel, hopefully it'll fill it with something less stodgy. |
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Edit : Forgot to add - CHannel 4 siging a deal to buy the show without the Presenters and judges being signed up - Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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I don't get you, are you saying they were sacked or that they haven't really quit??? You're spouting rubbish
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One look at Sue Perkins twitter and that statement and you can see they're pro GBBO on the BBC
Oh, wake up and smell what they're shovelling! BBC have LOST Bake Off. Doesn't matter what they think. C4 will have promised them a lot of money to pretend they've quit.
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As usual, the fans aim for the wrong target. So PACT lobbied for quotas to get 'indie' productions. And lo, Bbc staff suddenly became indies! Along with indies like Love, and of course pseudo-indies like Bbc Worldwide & now Studios. And Botney, who was/is a sort of indie-outie with his 'Imagine'.
All at the licence payer's expense. And the Bbc's given this kind of gutted it. But it's also where Studios may possibly make some difference, ie producing content the Bbc can flog so it doesn't need as much public money. As for boycotting Love.. The Bbc's already got a 30+hr hole to fill in it's schedules, and for anyone fed up with the Bbc being a food channel, hopefully it'll fill it with something less stodgy. I agree. Boycott Love Productions. They clearly don't hold the right values. P.S. It's BBC. Please get it right. |
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That is precisely it. When I, an enthusiastic licence fee payer, invest in BBC content/talent I expect loyalty from that talent and the content to remain on the BBC. I take a very dim view of talent/producers using me and the BBC only for them to run off with their ball the minute they get greedy. It is unacceptable behaviour. I never forgive any talent when they 'switch sides'.
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As usual, the fans aim for the wrong target. So PACT lobbied for quotas to get 'indie' productions. And lo, Bbc staff suddenly became indies! Along with indies like Love, and of course pseudo-indies like Bbc Worldwide & now Studios. And Botney, who was/is a sort of indie-outie with his 'Imagine'.
All at the licence payer's expense. And the Bbc's given this kind of gutted it. But it's also where Studios may possibly make some difference, ie producing content the Bbc can flog so it doesn't need as much public money. As for boycotting Love.. The Bbc's already got a 30+hr hole to fill in it's schedules, and for anyone fed up with the Bbc being a food channel, hopefully it'll fill it with something less stodgy. Love Productions was formed by Richard McKerrow and his partner Anna Beattie 12 years ago both Channel 4 Execs who left to start Love so not BBC employees leaving to start an indie. |
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my mum and Aunt Fanny said theyd be disgusted if Paul and Mary went to Channel 4.
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