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Old 12-09-2016, 19:17
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I saw a recent story that Mary, Paul, Mel & Sue would not do the show if it left the BBC .
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:21
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I saw a recent story that Mary, Paul, Mel & Sue would not do the show if it left the BBC .
Sounds like Top Gear.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:23
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That's 2 years old and was about the purchase of the production company. Just because it's owned by $ky, it doesn't mean it's going to be on a $ky channel
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:24
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I saw a recent story that Mary, Paul, Mel & Sue would not do the show if it left the BBC .
It would be quite funny if all other broadcasters said they weren't interested unless those four were on board - and all refused. Love Productions would then be left with a worthless format.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:24
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That's 2 years old and was about the purchase of the production company. Just because it's owned by $ky, it doesn't mean it's going to be on a $ky channel
I've asked the mods to edit that highly misleading post.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:26
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It would be quite funny if all other broadcasters said they weren't interested unless those four were on board - and all refused. Love Productions would then be left with a worthless format.
We can only hope.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:27
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I've never seen this show but always heard about it. I thought this was a BBC sacred show. No matter what they'd never allow anything to happen to it.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:28
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Can Sky afford it with their crazy bidding for the Premiership?
I'm hoping this was said with tongue firmly in cheek?
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:28
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In shock at this news. Can anyone speculate on why the BBC haven't renewed?

They're all saying it's NOT down to money, but surely, it MUST BE?
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:29
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I'm hoping this was said with tongue firmly in cheek?
They will now with all the employees they've laid off.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:34
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What else does the BBC have that's worth paying the license fee for. One of the best shows the BBC had.
Really? It was mindless crap.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:35
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Retaining The Great British Bake Off was always going to be a challenge for the BBC, indeed the same would apply to any other PBS. The commercial sector seldom takes risks with such formats, One can argue that relying on ad revenue they cannot afford to and that is the irony because if we didn’t have a licence funded broadcaster then shows such as Bake Off and Strictly would not exist. Love Productions tried in vain for 4 years to sell the format to the commercial sector with no takers, when the BBC stepped in the first season only attracted 2 million viewers. The irony once again is that had the commercial sector taken up the opportunity, it is very likely that One: it probably wouldn’t have attracted 2 million viewers and Two: If it did, it would likely have not survived. The commercial sector had more than a decade to come up with a format to replace the BBC’s long forgotten Come Dancing, they didn’t, instead, they went for the popular music format which was very successful. The BBC put on their dancing shoes and quickly clawed back the crown of Saturday Night.

The commercial sector weren’t bothered about baking or dancing, it they had, they would have taken up the option of Bake Off 4 years before it saw the light of day on the BBC and for a decade dancing was seen as a pastime for the old folks or at the other extreme rave venues for the young, certainly no place for Prime Time Saturday evenings. You can’t blame Love Productions for taking advantage, the Bake Off success attracted SKY to take a substantial share in the company and there we have another irony, the commercial sector doesn’t have to take the same risks but can take advantage of PBS successes. The licence fee allows the BBC to take on these formats but it doesn’t allow them to make the same bids to buy into these production companies with the same backing as the commercial sector.

The licence fee will always be a conundrum, It will attract support and disdain almost in equal measure but without it there would be a very unbalanced broadcasting landscape. The BBC doesn’t compete for advertising revenue allowing the commercial sector to benefit from a huge revenue stream. The PAY TV sector can bid even higher as long as they are able to retain a high subscription base with a significant advantage over both the BBC and the ad funded commercial sector, they can also use communications revenue to underpin their operations and have some of that advertising cake into the bargain. The licence payer is stuck with what in principle works for many just as tax funds other public services such as arts centres, museums, libraries, public parks, rivers, canals etc. We don’t all visit arts centres or museums, we don’t all read books, we don’t always take a walk along a river or canal or go for long walks in the countryside or even have children or grandchildren to take to a playground or recreational centre. These all exist because they provide a balance to the privately owned and run alternatives.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:39
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let me guess

amazon or netflix ??
Doesn't really suit those platforms. GBBO is one of the few remaining 'event' shows that people watch at the same time and discuss the next day. That doesn't really suit the Netflix model.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:43
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Apologies mate. I didn't realise you had started a thread. I looked too.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:44
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I agree. Love should be blacklisted by the Beeb. A lesson needs to be taught to the other indies.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:46
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This is a joke, surely?! But if it's the end of Love Productions, it will serve them right.

This seems to be a production company that has got greedy and knew they had the BBC over a barrel. I'm glad the BBC told them to sod off instead of just paying whatever overinflated fee they were demanding.

It's a shame to see it leave the BBC though. I won't bother watching it on any other channel and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It won't be the same.
I was never a full-on viewer. I dipped in and out of it. When it moves networks, I won't even be doing that.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:48
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:49
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The thing with GBBO is that it's all filmed and finished way in advance, but everyone involved (and the press) play along and keeps the secret.

I just wonder if it goes to a commercial channel for big bucks, will there be more likelihood of the rest of the media printing reveals and spoilers? There might be a feeling that it's 'fair game' on a commercial channel.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:50
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I know this would alienate a lot of viewers, but I would rather Sky have it, than it maybe end. Up on Channel 4 or 5.

Cant see ITV going for it, it isn't very ITV type show
Why wouldn't ITV go for the most watched programme on TV?!
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:51
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Sky are buying a 70% stake in Love. It doesn't mean Bake Off will end up on Sky 1 or another irrelevant Sky channel though.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:51
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I know this would alienate a lot of viewers, but I would rather Sky have it, than it maybe end. Up on Channel 4 or 5.

Cant see ITV going for it, it isn't very ITV type show
Agree, this show needs to be protected by taking it to Sky. I wouldn't be surprised if Sky even took the bold step of making it free of commercial breaks to keep the audience happy and preserve flow of the show. They do it with F1 races.

I'm delighted right now because I love the show but hate having to watch anything on the BBC. But I do worry that ITV or C4 will ruin it.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:51
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Breaking - Channel 4 secure Bake Off: https://twitter.com/patrickfoster2
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:54
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Breaking - Channel 4 secure Bake Off: https://twitter.com/patrickfoster2
Worse channels for it to go to. But it's viewing figures will at least halve next year.
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:57
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True ...but with the pressure on them from the Government in regards to not buying in expensive formats/entering bidding wars, they may not have much of a choice (hence why The Voice moved).

That's the problem when you don't own the format.....if the show becomes a success then you either pay through the nose to keep it or someone else gets it (and if you're pressured by the government to not enter a bidding war, then there's little you can do).

The BBC should be making more of their own content, as they clearly can't rely on these production companies being loyal... regardless of the help they have given them.
The BBC do own Doctor Who, EastEnders and Countryfile
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Old 12-09-2016, 19:57
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Worse channels for it to go to. But it's viewing figures will at least halve next year.
Yeah channel 5 would be worse.

I wish they took it to Sky though.
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