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BBC Loses Great British Bakeoff
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sat-ire
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by ukcarter:
“Perhaps the solution would be for the moderators to merge all of the "Bake Off to C4" threads into one?”

Yes, but in the absence of them doing that maybe certain users could execute an element of self-control?
DVDfever
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Another independent company has wade into the discussion and said Love Productions has behaved due gracefully....

Poldark's producer is not happy about "disgraceful" Great British Bake Off move
​"The BBC can have Poldark as long as they want.”

Some deride me for saying Mel and Sue haven't quit and that it's a fake press release made to drum up hype...

And then along comes a completely unrelated popular BBC programme, doing nothing other than drumming up hype for itself.

And people on here still can't see this??

Originally Posted by Mark.:
“You really need to tone down the attitude. Since your first post in this thread you've been nothing but insulting.

You have your opinion. That's fine. But everyone else is entitled to theirs, especially when it's based on what Mel & Sue themselves have said.”

As Nik Kershaw sang, "it's what the papers say, you know it's right, it's down there written in black and white --- for you
It's what the papers say, you know it's true, they're responsible citizens and would they lie to you?"

Originally Posted by human nature:
“Give it up, DVDfever. You don't know what's going to happen any more than anyone else does. At best you have a theory - which most people disagree with.

It does seem rather unlikely that Mel & Sue will return to the programme after their heavily publicised resignation. If they did, they'd end up looking really greedy (which is not an attractive look). They're not that stupid.”

Dear oh dear. ITV cancelled Mel & Sue. BBC cancelled Sue's sitcom, Heading Out. And you think she's still going to stand by those channels, and not sign a multi-million pound deal? What's the weather like on your planet?
Mark.
17-09-2016
I don't understand how someone can get so angry over something so trivial.
Steve9214
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“I don't understand how someone can get so angry over something so trivial.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07v35vt#play

Listen to Susan Calman on Friday's "News Quiz" at 20.30 in - you will hear someone get VERY angry about the BBC losing bakeoff.
Mark.
17-09-2016
I was referring more to the anger a certain poster is showing towards anyone who dares to suggest that Mel & Sue are actually telling the truth in their statement.
Steve9214
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“I was referring more to the anger a certain poster is showing towards anyone who dares to suggest that Mel & Sue are actually telling the truth in their statement.”

He won't like what Susan Calman said then lol

Reminds me of this Family guy bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw
eggchen
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07v35vt#play

Listen to Susan Calman on Friday's "News Quiz" at 20.30 in - you will hear someone get VERY angry about the BBC losing bakeoff.”

She doesn't sound VERY angry to me, she is having the crack about it.
Steve9214
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“She doesn't sound VERY angry to me, she is having the crack about it. ”

Hugo Rifkind seemed to be getting a lot of the rant directed at him - but his comments were really funny as well.
Mark.
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“He won't like what Susan Calman said then lol

Reminds me of this Family guy bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw”

It's uncanny!
DVDfever
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“I was referring more to the anger a certain poster is showing towards anyone who dares to suggest that Mel & Sue are actually telling the truth in their statement.”

Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“He won't like what Susan Calman said then lol

Reminds me of this Family guy bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw”

I love Susan Calman AND Family Guy. However, I can't believe how dense certain people are being by believing the hype, when this sort of thing has happened countless times.

It's like pop bands saying they'll never reform.... then a company waves a big cheque under their noses, and suddenly everything's wonderful again and everyone makes millions!

The people who believe Mel and Sue have left are the sort of people who read Buzzfeed and Huffington Post and Independent "You won't believe what they said next!" articles, and they didn't believe what would be said!
Janet43
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“I love Susan Calman AND Family Guy. However, I can't believe how dense certain people are being by believing the hype, when this sort of thing has happened countless times.

It's like pop bands saying they'll never reform.... then a company waves a big cheque under their noses, and suddenly everything's wonderful again and everyone makes millions!

The people who believe Mel and Sue have left are the sort of people who read Buzzfeed and Huffington Post and Independent "You won't believe what they said next!" articles, and they didn't believe what would be said! ”

I don't read Buzzfeed (whatever that is) , Huffington Post, the Daily Wail or any other trash out there. But I do believe that some people do have integrity and a sense of morality, and that Mel and Sue have left GBBO as they said and for the reasons they said.

I also strongly object to being called "dense".

What's it like to be so cynical? Not pleasant I imagine.
human nature
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“I love Susan Calman AND Family Guy. However, I can't believe how dense certain people are being by believing the hype, when this sort of thing has happened countless times.

It's like pop bands saying they'll never reform.... then a company waves a big cheque under their noses, and suddenly everything's wonderful again and everyone makes millions!

The people who believe Mel and Sue have left are the sort of people who read Buzzfeed and Huffington Post and Independent "You won't believe what they said next!" articles, and they didn't believe what would be said! ”

As I said before, you may turn out to be right - although I think it's far more likely you're going to be wrong. The fact is that you're guessing. You have no more idea whether Mel and Sue are going to return to GBBO than anyone else.

So stop telling everyone else they're dense!!!!!
eggchen
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“I don't read Buzzfeed (whatever that is) , Huffington Post, the Daily Wail or any other trash out there. But I do believe that some people do have integrity and a sense of morality, and that Mel and Sue have left GBBO as they said and for the reasons they said.

I also strongly object to being called "dense".

What's it like to be so cynical? Not pleasant I imagine.”

Why do you think it would have been immoral for them to have remained with Bake Off following the move to Channel 4?
human nature
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Why do you think it would have been immoral for them to have remained with Bake Off following the move to Channel 4?”

I know the question wasn't directed at me - but I think the answer is that some people will question the morality of letting down people who have backed and supported you for years in favour of money.

It was the BBC that commissioned this programme and worked with the production team to make it the success it's now become. Let's not forget that when it was first touted as an idea, no one else wanted to touch it with a barge pole. I imagine to Mel and Sue it almost feels like a betrayal to then snatch the product away from the people that nurtured it and give it to someone else so they can make more money from it.
ds_reader
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by human nature:
“ I imagine to Mel and Sue it almost feels like a betrayal to then snatch the product away from the people that nurtured it and give it to someone else so they can make more money from it.”

Who owns Channel 4 and who benefits if money is made from the show!?!

The only real issue that is getting people on ds excited is the fact the show in future will contain adverts.
mossy2103
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by ds_reader:
“The only real issue that is getting people on ds excited is the fact the show in future will contain adverts.”

If you read the threads you will see that is not the only issue.
eggchen
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by human nature:
“I know the question wasn't directed at me - but I think the answer is that some people will question the morality of letting down people who have backed and supported you for years in favour of money.

It was the BBC that commissioned this programme and worked with the production team to make it the success it's now become. Let's not forget that when it was first touted as an idea, no one else wanted to touch it with a barge pole. I imagine to Mel and Sue it almost feels like a betrayal to then snatch the product away from the people that nurtured it and give it to someone else so they can make more money from it.”

It's not immoral to walk away from one employer and work for another for better money, even if they have backed and supported you for years.
Mark.
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by human nature:
“As I said before, you may turn out to be right - although I think it's far more likely you're going to be wrong. The fact is that you're guessing. You have no more idea whether Mel and Sue are going to return to GBBO than anyone else.”

That's precisely it.

Since pretty much their first post in this thread, they've been rude and insulting to anyone who dares believe Mel & Sue's own words. It's not a simple case of "well, I see what they've said but I'm not sure I believe it"; it's "YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND THICK AND DENSE AND STUPID AND I'M RIGHT!!!!!".

It's utterly bizarre.
DVDfever
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by human nature:
“I know the question wasn't directed at me - but I think the answer is that some people will question the morality of letting down people who have backed and supported you for years in favour of money.

It was the BBC that commissioned this programme and worked with the production team to make it the success it's now become. Let's not forget that when it was first touted as an idea, no one else wanted to touch it with a barge pole. I imagine to Mel and Sue it almost feels like a betrayal to then snatch the product away from the people that nurtured it and give it to someone else so they can make more money from it.”

But why do you think they owe the BBC a moral debt? They canned Sue's sitcom and kicked her off Edinburgh Nights after one series, to give two examples.


Originally Posted by Mark.:
“That's precisely it.

Since pretty much their first post in this thread, they've been rude and insulting to anyone who dares believe Mel & Sue's own words. It's not a simple case of "well, I see what they've said but I'm not sure I believe it"; it's "YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND THICK AND DENSE AND STUPID AND I'M RIGHT!!!!!".

It's utterly bizarre.”

Like I said, the only way Mel & Sue are not part of C4 Bake Off, is if they've not been asked.
Mark.
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Like I said, the only way Mel & Sue are not part of C4 Bake Off, is if they've not been asked.”

So why not just say that? Why post long-winded, ranting and insulting posts at anyone who dares disagree with you?
human nature
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Like I said, the only way Mel & Sue are not part of C4 Bake Off, is if they've not been asked.”

How do you know that?
Mark.
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by human nature:
“How do you know that?”

Because the whole world except DVDfever is stupid and dense and thick and he knows best about everything.
DVDfever
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“So why not just say that? Why post long-winded, ranting and insulting posts at anyone who dares disagree with you?”

"Like I said" means I said it earlier, but others saw fit to rant and rave and lose their rag about a cooking programme changing channel.
human nature
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“"Like I said" means I said it earlier, but others saw fit to rant and rave and lose their rag about a cooking programme changing channel.”

People are losing their rag because you're insulting them for no reason. You have a theory, nothing more. That doesn't mean everyone who doesn't share your theory is stupid. Why do you need to be so rude?
Mark.
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“"Like I said" means I said it earlier, but others saw fit to rant and rave and lose their rag about a cooking programme changing channel.”

Well that's simply not true.

But even if it were, they weren't ranting and raving and losing their rag at you. So you have absolutely no reason to be and rude and insulting towards people who happen to disagree with your interpretation of events.
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