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BBC Loses Great British Bakeoff
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lundavra
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“They wouldn't have to raise an extra £25 million a year, they would have to raise £10 million. The BBC already offered £15 million a series, the shortfall was £10 million. The show doesn't cost £15 million a year either I'm sure, but the BBC were prepared to pay it.”

And Channel 4 then offers £30 million or £35 million (they can afford it) so what happens then?
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“And Channel 4 then offers £30 million or £35 million (they can afford it) so what happens then?”

It didn't so the point is rather moot. Who knows?
Janet43
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Or, alternatively, being the star employee who signed three years ago for £6 an hour, realising I could get £25 an hour elsewhere, and declining the £15 an hour offered to stay. Sure, the company put me through my apprenticeship and trained and nurtured me, but if they aren't going to pay me what I'm worth, I'm off to someone who will.”

You still don't get it. Stay blinkered. That's what you intend to do anyway.
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“You still don't get it. Stay blinkered.”

I do get it. Come back with something else instead of this boring aside.
lundavra
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“I agree with this more reasoned outlook

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-bbc-channel-4”

A lot of people are going to be very amused when Channel 4 lose some popular series (I presume they have some?) because someone with more money has outbid them by a large margin.
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“A lot of people are going to be very amused when Channel 4 lose some popular series (I presume they have some?) because someone with more money has outbid them by a large margin.”

I'm sure they are, and Channel 4 have complained about the same thing in the past, but hey, it's business and this is what occasionally happens.
lundavra
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“It didn't so the point is rather moot. Who knows?”

It does matter because you are claiming that the BBC should take money from other budgets to match any price that Love wanted.
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“It does matter because you are claiming that the BBC should take money from other budgets to match any price that Love wanted.”

I didn't claim it at all, the article I linked to earlier in the thread seemed to suggest people at the BBC had talked about it, but it isn't my assertion.

I have no idea how high the bidding may or may not have gone, and nobody else does either, and any speculation is just guesswork. Best to focus on what did happen.
ftv
20-09-2016
What seems to have been overlooked is that C4 can't broadcast the programme until 2018 as there has to be a two-year gap for contractual reasons. The TV landscape is going to be very different then.
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by ftv:
“What seems to have been overlooked is that C4 can't broadcast the programme until 2018 as there has to be a two-year gap for contractual reasons. The TV landscape is going to be very different then.”

Absolutely. The appetite, pardon the expression, for baking shows may well have died a death.
sat-ire
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“I'd be willing to bet that it would not air in a 75/80-min slot to allow for ad breaks. Like many other (entertainment) programmes it will be in a 60 mins slot (to fit the schedule breaks).”

Hold on, didn't you say:-

Quote:
“the fact that the programme will have to be shorter to cater for [ad-breaks]”

Anyway, Channel 4 regularly run programme to differing lengths - 8 Does Countdown for example used to run to 65 minutes in a peak-time Friday night slot.

Edit:- Having read further down the thread I see that Mark. has made exactly this point and you've responded
Straker
20-09-2016
http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/20/13-thi...nel-4-6139725/

*shudder*

All scarily likely......
ftv
20-09-2016
Jay Hunt has written an article in next week's Radio Times in which she says GBBO will be unchanged from the BBC version - rather difficult to see how she will achieve that.
Mark.
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Jay Hunt has written an article in next week's Radio Times in which she says GBBO will be unchanged from the BBC version - rather difficult to see how she will achieve that.”

The format and tone can certainly remain unchanged.
eggchen
20-09-2016
I would say to keep an open mind, and wait and see. If it isn't enjoyable after viewing it, turn it off.
sat-ire
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“I would say to keep an open mind, and wait and see. If it isn't enjoyable after viewing it, turn it off.”

Isn't it obvious that for many people that isn't going to happen, especially when you consider "facts" are being posted which actually turn out not to be facts at all but rather negative guesswork?
mossy2103
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Hold on, didn't you say:-”

Yes, it was a turn of phrase (an unfortunate one given the circumstances).
mossy2103
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/20/13-thi...nel-4-6139725/

*shudder*

All scarily likely......”

Yes (although I did suggest 8 out of 10 Cats does Bake Off last week), and I would add that there will be some thumping music (and pulsating lights) when it is announced who will be going home. Just to add to the tension.
mossy2103
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“The format and tone can certainly remain unchanged.”

The presenters & judges helped create the tone (discussed earlier), so that will certainly change. The broadcast format is likely to change to allow for convenient ad breaks and of course the necessary recaps (discussed earlier).
eggchen
20-09-2016
I bet you all end up watching it.
Mark.
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“The presenters & judges helped create the tone, so that will certainly change.”

No, tone of the programme is that of a relatively sedate baking competition that is judged in a non-dramatic fashion. The presenters and judges then work on that basis.

Quote:
“The broadcast format is likely to change to allow for convenient ad breaks (discussed earlier).”

And yet Good Food manage to fit ad breaks into episodes that didn't previously have ads.

It's a show that has natural breaks. There's no reason why the adverts can't be slotted into those, which won't disrupt the flow of the actual challenges themselves.

But no, let's keep condemning it before it's even had a chance on Channel 4.
mossy2103
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“I bet you all end up watching it.”

I won't (as I have already stated).
Mark.
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“I won't (as I have already stated).”

Which is obviously your prerogative.

But at the same time, utterly ridiculous.
eggchen
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“No, tone of the programme is that of a relatively sedate baking competition that is judged in a non-dramatic fashion. The presenters and judges then work on that basis.


And yet Good Food manage to fit ad breaks into episodes that didn't previously have ads.

It's a show that has natural breaks. There's no reason why the adverts can't be slotted into those, which won't disrupt the flow of the actual challenges themselves.

But no, let's keep condemning it before it's even had a chance on Channel 4.”

I always think with sequels, reboots, changes etc that it may not be as good as what came before, but may be enjoyable in its own right. <shrugs> Best to try it out before sulkily writing it off without having a glimpse first.
Mark.
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“I always think with sequels, reboots, changes etc that it may not be as good as what came before, but may be enjoyable in its own right. <shrugs> Best to try it out before sulkily writing it off without having a glimpse first.”

Spot on.

Would I have preferred to see Bake Off continue on the BBC with the same presenters and judges? Absolutely.

But will I give it a go on Channel 4? Yes, because I'm not prejudiced.
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