Oh diddums, this show has been going so long, it'll soon get stale, so how long will people continue to watch it?

Well that's utterly unanswerable question now isn't it? Although given you seem to be able to see the future with what you believe to be great clarity (although, y'know, let's not go back and check or anything...), I assume answering impossible questions is well within your capabilities.

I stand by what I've said.

Is there any news on Sewing Bee and Pottery Throw-down? Has the BBC got a prior commitment to make these shows, or is Love Productions begging for BBC air time?

IIRC Noel Edmonds has never worked for the BBC again after walking out of a show during the run of House Party.

After House Party finished it's final run, he was preparing for meetings with the BBC to pitch new ideas when he was politely informed that "he would not be welcomed at the BBC"

I used to see him round the old BBC Centre at that time he went everywhere with HUGE bodyguards. If he went in the lift there was no room for anyone else cos of all the accompanying muscles.

Was there room for Blobby?

Absolutely right. What the public dislikes is unnecessary instability. Love Productions, take note.

post in error...

Should have used the South Hall lifts

I bet he ITV breakfast presenters are paid a lot more than those on BBC even though much lower viewing figures.

I think pottery is coming back, if its the Zoe Ball one, She mentioned filming when covering for Ken Bruce.

I thought Sara Cox presented it no?

Let's all picture LP/C4 going cap-in-hand and on their knees to the Beeb as they beg them not to exercise their year gap clause:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ake-off-launch


My ironymeter just exploded.

Interesting tidbit there hinting Nadiya is more likely to choose the Beeb so perhaps an option to make up an all female foursome for any new show.....?

Did LP and C4 act in the public interest then ? Talk about hypocrisy. As the last GBBO on the BBC will be in December that means C4 will have to wait until December 2018 by which time the show will be forgotten and the BBC will have a successful successor - you couldn't really make it up could you ?

Up to May of this year the BBC hadn't decided if they were gong to commission a new series of the Sewing Bee, If they are, the application forms for the next series should be available in the next couple/few weeks.

Pottery Throwdown appears to have been recommissioned. Applications closed in April and filming was due to be take place between June and August. No air date yet.

Creme de la Creme was also a Love production.

You stand by a statement that is impossible to either prove or disprove? That's brave of you.

I didn't enjoy Creme de la Creme at all. I'd prefer that didn't come back even if LP hadn't behaved like idiots.

He did some cover shows for BBC Radio 2 a few years ago.

I didn't like it either, it would need a complete redesign of the whole concept so the BBC might be better doing that themselves or letting another company do it. The format of the programme was so bad that it should be possible to not infringe any parts that Love claim ownership.

I think that, as the holdback clause is relevant to the main show, then it is likely that will be based upon the end date of the main show this year rather than any specials.

The Bake Off will still be on TV, it'll still be FTA. We're now getting Bake Off and, presumably, £15m of new programming from the BBC. Result!

There's no reason for the BBC to provide content that can be provided by another broadcaster. There's no reason for it to deny C4 the right to broadcast the Bake Off early - no gain to either it or the public.

But why should they?

For Love Productions, who have acted entirely in their own self interest, to suggest the BBC shouldn't invoke a 12-month break clause "in the public interest" is breath-taking hypocrisy.

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it...

The BBC was already providing this content. Channel 4 shouldn't be showing a programme that was already established on the BBC. It's remit is to be innovative, experimental, creative and distinctive. Poaching an established and successful programme from another channel does not fit that.

If I was the BBC I would definitely invoke the one year break clause - it was in the contract that Love Productions very willingly signed to that when they wanted the BBC to have it.

It wasn't well received, so I'd be surprised if the BBC agreed to another one. I wouldn't watch it if they did, and I can't see any other channel clamouring to get it.

I suppose that whether or not we get another Sewing Bee will depend on how much animosity there was after May while they were still considering it between Love Productions and the BBC when they were negotiating for Bake Off, and how much Love Productions tried to screw out of the BBC for it.

Obviously the deal for Pottery Throw Down was already settled before that since applications to take part were being taken in April.