It would be useful for them to delay the C4 return of bake off. Mainly, it will give them a chance to introduce whatever they are replacing it with in the "bake-off slot" in 2017 without having the old show as direct competition.

This has got to be one of the most hypocritical things I have ever read:

"However, sources close to Love and Channel 4 suggest that the team still hope to convince the BBC that it should act in the “public rather than self” interest and allow an earlier launch for the main show."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ake-off-launch

It's ridiculous for them to talk about putting self interest first, the response was brilliant though

“When they bought the programme, Channel 4 knew the terms under which they were doing so,” said a BBC source. “They can’t now have their cake and eat it too.”


I still wonder if C4 really did know what they were buying in any detail, did they actually read what they signed?

And importantly, it was a clause in the contract freely entered into by both parties at the time, and no doubt with LP being fully aware of "the public interest".

A contract is a contract. People cannot complain if the terms of that contract are subsequently enforced.

http://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/...-a3350096.html

Of course those talks might break down, or the BBC might pull out of them.

However, I always felt that Creme de la Creme was more suited to the Masterchef brand than Bake Off, and that it was hanging off of the coat tails of Bake Off purely because of the branding.

No other broadcaster was interested in GBBO, so this was content only the BBC would provide. The fact is that the BBC took a risk and made a success of it, LP now wants to take the money and run. Not very professional for their long term future.

Despite what some might think, the BBC have a history of being to react quickly to changing circumstances and make quick decisions so hope they can devise a format for a replacement series that will be better, popular and Love will not be able to block (though I suspect they will because they can afford VERY expensive lawyers). I suspect the BBC will have most of the public behind them if they can get something on next year.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/cultu...-4-bbc-bosses/

Apparently GBBO needed reinventing and recasting. Who knew?


http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...channel-4.html

Totally ****ed (up) before even a second has aired on C4. Hunt can't even manage the PR aftermath of the bomb she's responsible for. How does someone who's ruled themselves out of the running for the job (yeah, right...) still think they can gob off about what the show will look like when it comes back? The Hunt should be shutting down this kind of ill-advised blather from their employees as they're just wreaking yet more damage on this battenburged brand.

it is amazing how poeple who get prissy about the BBC not being business like, and think it isnt run like a business, because is has swimming pools of public money, are not objecting when the BBC is going to up hold a simple contract.

Did we all imagine that she said the programme would "remain the same"?

Audio from which those quotes above were taken:

https://twitter.com/Jake_Kanter/stat...389299712?s=09

Jay Hunt was right though in that the BBC lost Bake Off. The relationship between Love Productions and the BBC had broken down and the show became available. To that end, nothing was stolen or poached.

The other point is that I think it is a sign of desperation to try and use Davina McCall's musings on a lighthearted chatshow as some kind of ammo. Do you take her that seriously?

Yes, it's odd that she says that now when previously she had said that Bake Off will be unchanged, still the same format etc.

Now it's a totally different story.

If the relationship had irretrievably "broken down" as you say then surely no amount of money would've repaired it and yet they made it clear it could've stayed at the Beeb had they coughed up £25m a year for it. The one contradicts the other here, you see that.....right?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...corporation-c/


You affect/state an attitude of ambivalence about the programme itself that's under discussion and yet swamp the thread to the extent that 10% of ALL posts in it are yours. Is that a "sign of desperation" that you seemingly feel compelled to be so relentlessly snide, sarcastic and dismissive of others throughout?

Nadiya Hussain on Breakfast a few moments ago when asked about GGBO moving to Channel 4. "I can't believe people are still talking about, it's old news isn't it." Hear, hear.

She also said she hopes it succeeds wherever it goes.

The fee demand was likely the same as one of those sky high estimates you get from your local plumber when he doesn't actually want the job.


I don't think you like your points being challenged do you? It was a fair enough question, but, as usual it's the usual personal attack about the number of posts made etc Poor form.

Why on earth would anybody think that Davina McCall, making light conversation about the show on another light entertainment chat show, is making any kind of serious suggestion about its future?

She's right, on both counts.

Good luck to Channel 4 and Bake Off, in whatever form it returns.

You forgot is the only person who is right and always has to have the last word.

Who said anyone was taking Davina's opinion seriously?

However she was asked the question and she answered it. isn't she entitled to do that?

Yeah of course, but Mr Straker's approach was to suggest that by doing so, she is somehow making further damaging comments.


To my mind, she was making lighthearted chit chat on a chat show for the purposes of light entertainment, so any musings she makes in that vein aren't going to be considered as being serious comments anyway

Oh well, that's her now marked out as public enemy number 2 (after Paul Hollywood).

How dare anyone wish Bake-Off to succeed on the nasty evil Channel 4.

She has betrayed the BBC with those comments.

I wouldn't have said that would be the case at all. After all, Mel, Sue, and Mary, have pretty much said the same thing.

It's amazing the special feelings people reserve for the BBC when you consider all the much publicised shenanigans that have been going on over there for decades. The BBC is a national embarrassment as far as I'm concerned.

Hardly, it's no worse than any other broadcaster, you just read about it more in the press.

I've had plenty of real life experience of working for a full range of broadcasters, the problems at the BBC are mirrored in the others.

But then again, why would you ever know about them?