And admitting, in a rare moment of candour (a change from her usual self-serving BS), that it would've been a disaster if none of the key talent had come across.

It's almost like she's motivated simply by petty jealousy and a lust for revenge. Nah, nobody could be that much of a Hunt. Could they......?

Are they? I know of a good few who would put making watchable programming a long way ahead of financial gain. It would be wise not to tar everybody with the same brush as Love!

Like the "gentleman's agreement" where the BBC and ITV both agreed not to poach each other's imported shows, also known as price-fixing:

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/13/ar...or-dallas.html

There's no almost about it.

Known as price fixing by the idiot American who complained to Ofcom without any idea of what he was talking about, you mean? Price fixing is carried out by a group of producers of the same or similar product co-operating to prevent price cuts undermining an artificially inflated market. Dallas' production company finding that it could not after all benefit from a gazumping is nothing of the kind.

Oh dear. Where to start...


No, let's take our definitions from the people who actually know what they're talking about.

"Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors that raises, lowers, or stabilizes prices or competitive terms. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor."
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/comp...s/price-fixing


No, but competitors agreeing not to assist the market prices by bidding competitively for the same product is most definitely an anticompetitive act. Likewise even the slightest HINT of a "gentleman's agreement" whereby no other UK broadcaster would touch GBBO while the BBC still wanted it, would be similarly anticompetitive and illegal.

The Americans have some strange rules on business. We had to sit through a long boring video at work which tried to tell us that if our next door neighbour bought shares in the American parent company before the price went up then we could be charged with insider trading even no evidence of it. We told them that we were not subject to US law as British citizens and a few were very tempted to walk out of the showing of the video.

That's ridiculous. Can we establish that in this scenario the broadcasters are customers not producers and therefore cannot be compelled to do anything least of all buy a product at an inflated price. Buyers cannot be accused of price fixing because it is, by definition, always in their interest to get the lowest price they can. and indeed the whole point of anti-trust laws is to assist them in so doing! Anti-trust regulations and laws simply do not apply to buyers, only to producers.

So there is nothing anticompetitive and certainly nothing illegal about potential buyers agreeing that the parties in an exclusive contract should be left to negotiate a renewal unmolested until such time as it becomes evident that there is no prospect of that renewal occurring.

Under your understanding of this Love would be given a near absolute right to have their product bought by someone and at any price they chose to name essentially by forcing buyers into a cutthroat bidding war. It is preposterous to suggest that that is what is intended by anti-trust regulation!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38237763

He must be lying. According to people on here, everything about the programme is changing...

Well obviously the presenters are changing - I doubt Hollywood knows much about it.

Well obviously the presenters are changing - I doubt Hollywood knows much about it.We know C4 didn't consult him when they were in the throes of buying the programme.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...gbbo-spin-off/

Which is nothing to do with the format.


He'll know a damn sight more about it than the armchair ranters on here.


Why would they consult him? He wasn't their employee.

I'm sure they'll be along shortly to tell us all different

Unless the programme is being increased in length or is to air without adverts, it will have to change in some way...

There's a difference between the format of a programme, and the way it is aired. Taking the exact same show and reducing its running time to accommodate adverts doesn't change the format. If it did, then Good Food would be required to change the title for their repeat showings.

But in any case, we don't yet know what Channel 4's plans are. Early in this thread, I posted several examples of primetime programmes that last 70 minutes or so including adverts.

Hollywood said at the time he was employed by Love Productions and they didn't consult him either.

Again, why should they?

Clearly it wasn't an issue for him because he's moved with the programme.

Yet the others - who weren't consulted either - haven't.But then the whole thing has been handled so badly and looks like being off our screens until almost 2019.

Which was their decision.

But quite why that has relevance to what Paul Hollywood is saying now is beyond me.

To ensure that after spending so much money they have presenters. No one would pay that much and end up not getting the four presenters ...... oooops, they did.

They might have the tent (probably at a different location) and similar tests but there will be regular interruptions for adverts so a shorter programme so the tests will have be either shorter or less seen of them or the programme made longer.

The whole character will be changed with different presenters.

Great British Bake Off RIP

Can't have it all ways. It is either changing or not changing, he claims that it won't change.

Has that now been confirmed? Last time these assumptions were made on this thread it hadn't...

True. Keeping the programme in the schedules at an hour and adding in 18 (is that the maximum allowed?) minutes of adverts without changing the format will certainly make the programme very rushed from the 58(?) minute one we have been used to, and will give it a totally different feel.

Why would the tent be at a different location?

It's stll a Love Production but for C4 not BBC.

I've never watched it, but don't they have documentary segments that are cut when shown on a commercial channel repeat, similar to Planet Earth, which is a 50 minute programme, padded for an hour BBC slot?

He's claiming the format is not changing (and since he's actually, you know, involved in the programme, I believe him over the armchair ranters on this thread).

The format can stay the same even in a 1hr slot with adverts. But, again, we have no idea what Channel 4's plans are in terms of timing. All we've had is speculation from people who have thrown their toys out the pram about the move.