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Well, i guess stranger things have happened. Jay Hunt buying TGBBO without any of the talent attached for one.
It's almost like she's motivated simply by petty jealousy and a lust for revenge. Nah, nobody could be that much of a Hunt. Could they......? |
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AWhat a shocker, TV production companies are interested in making as much money as possible.
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It is an agreement based on trust, an old-fashioned "gentleman's agreement".
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/13/ar...or-dallas.html |
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It's almost like she's motivated simply by petty jealousy and a lust for revenge. Nah, nobody could be that much of a Hunt. Could they......?
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Like the "gentleman's agreement" where the BBC and ITV both agreed not to poach each other's imported shows, also known as price-fixing:
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/13/ar...or-dallas.html |
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Known as price fixing by the idiot American who complained to Ofcom without any idea of what he was talking about, you mean?
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Price fixing is carried out by a group of producers of the same or similar product co-operating to prevent price cuts undermining an artificially inflated market.
"Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors that raises, lowers, or stabilizes prices or competitive terms. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor." https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/comp...s/price-fixing Quote:
Dallas' production company finding that it could not after all benefit from a gazumping is nothing of the kind.
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No, but competitors agreeing not to assist the market prices by bidding competitively for the same product is most definitely an anticompetitive act. Likewise even the slightest HINT of a "gentleman's agreement" whereby no other UK broadcaster would touch GBBO while the BBC still wanted it, would be similarly anticompetitive and illegal.
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No, but competitors agreeing not to assist the market prices by bidding competitively for the same product is most definitely an anticompetitive act. Likewise even the slightest HINT of a "gentleman's agreement" whereby no other UK broadcaster would touch GBBO while the BBC still wanted it, would be similarly anticompetitive and illegal.
So there is nothing anticompetitive and certainly nothing illegal about potential buyers agreeing that the parties in an exclusive contract should be left to negotiate a renewal unmolested until such time as it becomes evident that there is no prospect of that renewal occurring. Under your understanding of this Love would be given a near absolute right to have their product bought by someone and at any price they chose to name essentially by forcing buyers into a cutthroat bidding war. It is preposterous to suggest that that is what is intended by anti-trust regulation! |
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Paul Hollywood has vowed that the format of The Great British Bake Off will "stay exactly the same" when it moves to Channel 4. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38237763He is the only celebrity participant to be following the show to its new home. Fellow judge Mary Berry and hosts Mel Giedroyc and Sue Perkins left the show after the BBC lost the rights. "The Bake Off won't change in the sense that the format will stay exactly the same, the tent will stay the same, [as will] the challenges," Hollywood said. He must be lying. According to people on here, everything about the programme is changing... |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38237763
He must be lying. According to people on here, everything about the programme is changing... |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38237763
He must be lying. According to people on here, everything about the programme is changing... https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...gbbo-spin-off/ |
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Well obviously the presenters are changing -
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I doubt Hollywood knows much about it.
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We know C4 didn't consult him when they were in the throes of buying the programme.
Why would they consult him? He wasn't their employee.
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He'll know a damn sight more about it than the armchair ranters on here..
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Unless the programme is being increased in length or is to air without adverts, it will have to change in some way...
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Unless the programme is being increased in length or is to air without adverts, it will have to change in some way...
But in any case, we don't yet know what Channel 4's plans are. Early in this thread, I posted several examples of primetime programmes that last 70 minutes or so including adverts. |
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Which is nothing to do with the format.
He'll know a damn sight more about it than the armchair ranters on here. Why would they consult him? He wasn't their employee. |
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Hollywood said at the time he was employed by Love Productions and they didn't consult him either.
Clearly it wasn't an issue for him because he's moved with the programme. |
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Again, why should they?
Clearly it wasn't an issue for him because he's moved with the programme. |
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Yet the others - who weren't consulted either - haven't.
But quite why that has relevance to what Paul Hollywood is saying now is beyond me. |
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Which is nothing to do with the format.
He'll know a damn sight more about it than the armchair ranters on here. Why would they consult him? He wasn't their employee. They might have the tent (probably at a different location) and similar tests but there will be regular interruptions for adverts so a shorter programme so the tests will have be either shorter or less seen of them or the programme made longer. The whole character will be changed with different presenters. Great British Bake Off RIP |
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There's a difference between the format of a programme, and the way it is aired. Taking the exact same show and reducing its running time to accommodate adverts doesn't change the format. If it did, then Good Food would be required to change the title for their repeat showings.
But in any case, we don't yet know what Channel 4's plans are. Early in this thread, I posted several examples of primetime programmes that last 70 minutes or so including adverts. |
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To ensure that after spending so much money they have presenters. No one would pay that much and end up not getting the four presenters ...... oooops, they did.
They might have the tent (probably at a different location) and similar tests but there will be regular interruptions for adverts so a shorter programme so the tests will have be either shorter or less seen of them or the programme made longer. The whole character will be changed with different presenters. Great British Bake Off RIP |
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There's a difference between the format of a programme, and the way it is aired. Taking the exact same show and reducing its running time to accommodate adverts doesn't change the format.
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To ensure that after spending so much money they have presenters. No one would pay that much and end up not getting the four presenters ...... oooops, they did.
They might have the tent (probably at a different location) and similar tests but there will be regular interruptions for adverts so a shorter programme so the tests will have be either shorter or less seen of them or the programme made longer. The whole character will be changed with different presenters. Great British Bake Off RIP It's stll a Love Production but for C4 not BBC. I've never watched it, but don't they have documentary segments that are cut when shown on a commercial channel repeat, similar to Planet Earth, which is a 50 minute programme, padded for an hour BBC slot? |
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Can't have it all ways. It is either changing or not changing, he claims that it won't change.
The format can stay the same even in a 1hr slot with adverts. But, again, we have no idea what Channel 4's plans are in terms of timing. All we've had is speculation from people who have thrown their toys out the pram about the move. |
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