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BBC Loses Great British Bakeoff
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noise747
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ash_M1:
“Indeed. It will be fully commercialised and Channel 4d. It will lose all the things viewers enjoy about it. It will lose it's charm, humour and 'BBC feel'. Love have totally shot themselves in the foot never-mind mugging off licence fee payers.”

I thought you did not agree with public BBc money being spent on private companies, so by Bake off going to another channel, there will be less BBC licence fee going to a private company.

It may surprise us all, it may be better on ch4 than it is on BBC, but you will not see it as you do not watch commercial channels, so you keep telling us.

Anyway, what is the BBc feel? BBC to me is a bit snobbyinsh to be honest, always have been.
noise747
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Hollywood on Jonathan Ross' show in a few minutes.”

Can't stand Ross, if he comes on TV or the radio I switch off right away.
mossy2103
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by noise747:
“I thought you did not agree with public BBc money being spent on private companies, so by Bake off going to another channel, there will be less BBC licence fee going to a private company.”

Wasn't there a requirement that the BBC outsource at least a certain percentage of programme production anyway? So LF money will always be flowing to private companies.

Quote:
“Currently, the BBC is required to commission 10% of programming from independent producers, with a further 10% open to competition between the BBC’s in-house production arm and independent suppliers.

Under director general Tony Hall’s compare and compete strategy this is proposed to be dramatically increased to 60% open to full competition during the first six years of the BBC’s new charter.”

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...utsource-shows
David_Flett1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“As I said, always good for a laugh.

Looks like there's just one of us riled tonight ”

I was riled and told to stop bickering with Ash, looking back it was sound advice. Sorry to those who I disappointed in carrying on. I'm really trying hard not to this time.
Ash_M1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Wasn't there a requirement that the BBC outsource at least a certain percentage of programme production anyway? So LF money will always be flowing to private companies.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...utsource-shows”

...indeed...moving to 100% (excluding news and current affairs) by the end of the next charter period. I don't like it one bit. I don't want the BBC to end up like Channel 4, a publisher-broadcaster only. The BBC is the engine which drives our creativity. I want that to remain the case.
Ash_M1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by David_Flett1:
“I was riled and told to stop bickering with Ash, looking back it was sound advice. Sorry to those who I disappointed in carrying on. I'm really trying hard not to this time.”

I will stop bickering with you too. I will stop all interaction with you going forward.
mossy2103
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ash_M1:
“...indeed...moving to 100% (excluding news and current affairs) by the end of the next charter period. I don't like it one bit. I don't want the BBC to end up like Channel 4, a publisher-broadcaster only. The BBC is the engine which drives our creativity. I want that to remain the case.”

Don't worry unduly - BBC Studios will be part of that mix.
ftv
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Can't stand Ross, if he comes on TV or the radio I switch off right away.”

He always reminds me of a rather sleazy used car salesman. Happily ITV are taking a break from him in 2017.
DVDfever
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Can't stand Ross, if he comes on TV or the radio I switch off right away.”

Well, you don't want his liquids getting inside, so you have to dry it off first to avoid a fire.
David_Flett1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ash_M1:
“I will stop bickering with you too. I will stop all interaction with you going forward.”

I don't have a problem with you personally, the problem is that you cannot accept anyone has a different point of view. I made an obsevation that it was best for everyone not just you personally that it was best to wait and see how GBBO would develop under CH4 as no one knows about the presenters, running time, ad breaks and indeed how the chemistry will develop between presenters and contestants. Many have different views but unfortunately you will not accept that the GBBO will be as good even though the same production team will be involved.

I'm a great fan of the GBBO and I was greatly disappointed that the BBC lost it, had it been to a commercial broadcaster I would have understood the decision but I don't think two public broadcasters should be competing with each other. It won't stop me watching it on CH4 however, I will give it a chance and only after a few shows and is bedded down I'll judge whether to continue.

You constantly judge everything against the BBC and it does seem that you are only too willing to show incredible bias against any other broadcaster, Pay TV or streaming service that offers brilliant shows that millions enjoy.
hyperstarsponge
11-12-2016
Really surpised that the BBC has given the Bake Off primetime Christmas Day slot, I would dump it on BBC Two.
lundavra
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Don't worry unduly - BBC Studios will be part of that mix.”

I suspect they will be squeezed out by the competition eventually.
Straker
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Really surpised that the BBC has given the Bake Off primetime Christmas Day slot, I would dump it on BBC Two.”

Clearly then, you'd make a TERRIBLE scheduler!
lundavra
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Really surpised that the BBC has given the Bake Off primetime Christmas Day slot, I would dump it on BBC Two.”

Let people remember what they are going to be missing with the programme ending.
mossy2103
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“I suspect they will be squeezed out by the competition eventually.”

BBC Studios are likely to remain a pretty large undertaking (especially so given that they would also be free to produce programming for other broadcasters both in the UK and internationally, and are likely to be an unofficial "preferred supplier" for many successful programmes that they already produce (e.g. would the BBC be happy to dispense with BBC Studios and hand over production of Strictly to another, unproven supplier?).
CosmopeletonDS
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Let people remember what they are going to be missing with the programme ending.”

I expect Clare Balding to make a surprise appearance, with a valedictory speech extolling every the BBC does and the BBC's plenteous achievements. Accompanied by Alice Arnold and yet more of the BBC's politically correct apparatus... x.
mossy2103
24-12-2016
Latest names rumoured to be in the frame to be part of the C4 programme - Miranda Hart & her mother Diana Hart-Dyke:

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...off-presenters
jonbwfc
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Latest names rumoured to be in the frame to be part of the C4 programme - Miranda Hart & her mother Diana Hart-Dyke:”

Jesus wept.
A.D.P
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Latest names rumoured to be in the frame to be part of the C4 programme - Miranda Hart & her mother Diana Hart-Dyke:

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...off-presenters”

Whilst the RT is typically correct, I do not accept this one. Miranda has been busy in Hollywood, she was too busy for Call the Midwife, but said she wanted to do it.

She was linked with the reinvention of The Generation Game, never occurred.

She is linked with Strictly, she loves it, but too busy.

So then why can she find time to do this, and why? Like Chris Evans taking over Top Gear, she gets the blame when 15 million become 3 million.
lundavra
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Whilst the RT is typically correct, I do not accept this one. Miranda has been busy in Hollywood, she was too busy for Call the Midwife, but said she wanted to do it.

She was linked with the reinvention of The Generation Game, never occurred.

She is linked with Strictly, she loves it, but too busy.

So then why can she find time to do this, and why? Like Chris Evans taking over Top Gear, she gets the blame when 15 million become 3 million.”

That's their problem, many will not want to be associated with a failure. A really BIG name, much bigger than Miranda, could perhaps risk it and someone right down at the bottom might take a risk but those in the middle could find their career damaged.
A.D.P
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“That's their problem, many will not want to be associated with a failure. A really BIG name, much bigger than Miranda, could perhaps risk it and someone right down at the bottom might take a risk but those in the middle could find their career damaged.”

Like Top Gear, the tabloids love a failing story.....and like Chris will blame them.
lundavra
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Like Top Gear, the tabloids love a failing story.....and like Chris will blame them.”

Is this a clue to what will happen?

The Great British Bake Flop: Paul Hollywood's latest book sells just 9,000 copies while Mary and Nadiya's recipes sell like hot cakes
Charnham
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Is this a clue to what will happen?

The Great British Bake Flop: Paul Hollywood's latest book sells just 9,000 copies while Mary and Nadiya's recipes sell like hot cakes”

a couple of months back, I was in a garden centre, and there was an entire kitchens worth of Paul Hollywood branded goods, on the one hand that is why he is staying on the show, because he needs a profile to sell those, but on the other people dont like him so much now, when Mary Berry and Jamie Oliver have similar stuff out I dont see him selling them, its a double edged sword for him really.
dodrade
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Is this a clue to what will happen?

The Great British Bake Flop: Paul Hollywood's latest book sells just 9,000 copies while Mary and Nadiya's recipes sell like hot cakes”

I definitely think he's a lot less popular than Berry but because of GBBO the press have been more lenient with him than would otherwise have been the case, even when he briefly ran off with his American Co-presenter. Not sure they'll be so kind in future.
A.D.P
26-12-2016
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Announcement tonight at 8 pm? Of GBBO BBC replacement?

There was a teaser pre GBBO tonight with four boxes to be opened?
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