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Microsoft may be ditching Lumia line by end of 2016 for Surface Phone |
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I would genuinely love to be using a Surface to replace my laptop, would definitely be a better option for when attending meetings or moving around the office.
I tried to get a Surface Book to play with but that would have blown the IT budget out of the water. |
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I have both Surface 3 Pro and Surface Book. I love the Pro, not so enamoured with the Book. It's heavier to start with. The Pro feels better to use as a tablet. The Book is more a laptop and when you detach it, you get a limited battery life. You can flip the screen part around with the keyboard inside, but then it's heavy.
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HP Elite will have 4.1Ah battery, which is pretty mad. But the problem is you have a processor with 4 cores clocked at some mad frequency, 4GB RAM, over 64GB disk, anything with less than QHD display is for losers and it has to have unlimited multitasking, God only knows what for. Those are specs of a computer not a phone. So whatever battery you hang on it, the difference will be a few hours, not days.
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many still see an iPhone as something of a status symbol that they can pose with.
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Have a word with your boss. A Surface Pro and docking station is a great combination to balance working at your desk and being mobile for meetings.
I tried to get a Surface Book to play with but that would have blown the IT budget out of the water. Back to Microsoft; their software developers working on W10M are close to incompetent. The latest (fast ring) build of W10M has broken the phone functionality, wifi doesn't work right, the keyboard refuses to appear. Oh, and it suffers regular reboots (every 5-10 minutes). Whilst I'm on the fast ring and acknowledge the potential problems, Microsoft are semi regularly breaking too many things and obviously there is little in the way of internal testing. Quite amazing how they're happily breaking the basics. Microsoft are showing that they really have no idea with mobile. Whilst the interface is actually pretty good (much prefer it to Android and iOS), the actual updates and operation is seriously flawed. |
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I heard a rumour from a reliable source that the Surface phone could be running Android.
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I heard a rumour from a reliable source that the Surface phone could be running Android.
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It can't just run Android apps as there needs to be a proper mechanism for updates, which you'd get via the Play store.
And I guess IAPs and so on too. Many systems before seemed to just work on sideloading or downloading APKs, or relying on a store devoid of apps. |
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I suspect Nokia might be one of the biggest Android OEMs if they'd gone with Android. I miss their hardware.
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I suspect Nokia might be one of the biggest Android OEMs if they'd gone with Android. I miss their hardware.
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I suspect Nokia might be one of the biggest Android OEMs if they'd gone with Android. I miss their hardware.
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Elop made a lot of money burying Nokia by wedding them with his former employers.
He is very much from Steve Ballmer's disastrous era at Microsoft. They are still paying the price for that today. Quote:
When Apple introduced the iPhone, Steve Ballmer laughed. “No chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share,” he said in 2007 http://www.vanityfair.com/news/busin...-steve-ballmer
Plenty of people can make predictions that prove boneheaded. But Ballmer’s bad calls have been particularly damaging for him inside Microsoft |
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I did think I heard it mooted at one point to at least have an Android compatibility layer so you can have a few more apps. Though I was reminded of what happened to IBM OS/2 basically ending up like a bad way of running Windows 3.1 applications, so if it's just running full Android it's probably not a bad call.
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Was chatting with one of our PC guys yesterday, not a chance of the Surface in any form. We're exclusively Lenovo. Apparently lenovo are trying to get us to buy their new touchscreen devices ...
Back to Microsoft; their software developers working on W10M are close to incompetent. The latest (fast ring) build of W10M has broken the phone functionality, wifi doesn't work right, the keyboard refuses to appear. Oh, and it suffers regular reboots (every 5-10 minutes). Whilst I'm on the fast ring and acknowledge the potential problems, Microsoft are semi regularly breaking too many things and obviously there is little in the way of internal testing. Quite amazing how they're happily breaking the basics. Microsoft are showing that they really have no idea with mobile. Whilst the interface is actually pretty good (much prefer it to Android and iOS), the actual updates and operation is seriously flawed. |
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I haven't seen a half-decent Windows Phone since the Nokia Lumia 930.
The Windows Phones after that have been poorly designed, tacky and very undesirable. |
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I haven't seen a half-decent Windows Phone since the Nokia Lumia 930.
The Windows Phones after that have been poorly designed, tacky and very undesirable. |
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In my experience, the worst thing about Windows Phone is that you can't use USB tethering and there is no option to change the WiFi frequency when using it as a WiFi hotspot. So when the WiFi interferes with other WiFi networks and stops functioning, nothing can be done to fix it apart from having to keep manually turning off Internet Sharing and turn it back on.
Windows Phone's are useless for internet sharing, they won't even do anything to fix it. Can't they release a software update to enable USB tethering? |
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In my experience, the worst thing about Windows Phone is that you can't use USB tethering and there is no option to change the WiFi frequency when using it as a WiFi hotspot. So when the WiFi interferes with other WiFi networks and stops functioning, nothing can be done to fix it apart from having to keep manually turning off Internet Sharing and turn it back on.
Windows Phone's are useless for internet sharing, they won't even do anything to fix it. Can't they release a software update to enable USB tethering? |
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I haven't seen a half-decent Windows Phone since the Nokia Lumia 930.
The Windows Phones after that have been poorly designed, tacky and very undesirable.
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Windows Phone 7 used to be able to do it.
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Why would they remove a feature that was already on Windows Phone?
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The new HP phone is supposed to be something special. But. It comes with an older build of W10M that does not support the fingerprint scanner. One was supposed to install Anniversary Update, only this one was delayed for this phone, because it does not reach expected performance and there are some other issues, too. Not looking good for MS and its competence. Maybe I should cancel the order and get Galaxy Note instead. At least I could use that one as a hand grenade
![]() The X3 is a business device hence the "Elite" moniker, the roll out is phased along with the firmware, accessories docks etc. HP will sort it but don't think of it as a normal consumer device. |
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Businesses love buying unfinished, bug ridden kit that will be fixed 'eventually'.
You'd think they'd be built to an even higher standard. |
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The X3 is a business device hence the "Elite" moniker, the roll out is phased along with the firmware, accessories docks etc. HP will sort it but don't think of it as a normal consumer device.
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Got a Surface Pro 4 and love it to be honest. Not sure how it translates to a phone. Probably doesn't.
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