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Old 27-09-2016, 17:24
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Got a Surface Pro 4 and love it to be honest. Not sure how it translates to a phone. Probably doesn't.
SP3 and 4 are products they got right. I prefer my SP3 with W8.1. I tried it with W10 early on and did not like it. As for the phone, it's one failure after another for MS. They keep rebooting their mobile OS, leaving the users and developers behind. I would not hold my breath about the Surface phone.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:48
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Not surprising really, im about ready to take a hammer to my Lumia 535. It was mostly fine on Windows mobile 8.1
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Old 28-09-2016, 09:17
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SP3 and 4 are products they got right. I prefer my SP3 with W8.1. I tried it with W10 early on and did not like it. As for the phone, it's one failure after another for MS. They keep rebooting their mobile OS, leaving the users and developers behind. I would not hold my breath about the Surface phone.
"rebooting"? Really, you know thats a load of tosh.

The transition from WP7 to WP8 dropped a lot of compatibility, but WP8 support the universal apps, as does W10M. And I'm still running plenty of WP8 apps on my 930.

So they didn't leave developers behind .... they didn't really have many in the first place.

I have genuinely found W10 to be a major improvement over W8.1 on the desktop and tablet - a more consistent, fluid interface. And in the case of mobile, it really isn't that different from WP8.1 (apart from being a little slower).
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Old 28-09-2016, 15:29
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"rebooting"? Really, you know thats a load of tosh.

The transition from WP7 to WP8 dropped a lot of compatibility, but WP8 support the universal apps, as does W10M. And I'm still running plenty of WP8 apps on my 930.

So they didn't leave developers behind .... they didn't really have many in the first place.

I have genuinely found W10 to be a major improvement over W8.1 on the desktop and tablet - a more consistent, fluid interface. And in the case of mobile, it really isn't that different from WP8.1 (apart from being a little slower).
If you want to run old apps, yes you can do that. But as they progressed towards W10M they kept changing the way how you program the apps. You have to adjust if you want to use all programmatically available features of the OS or take advantage of "we promise it's the final way how to write universal apps" universal apps. On other OS you would just get new APIs to use, on WP you have to keep reworking your original project. Too much work for zero reward.

As for daily use of W10M, I find it responsive enough, but I find it degenerates over time. Let's say I come back home and the phone refuses to connect to Wi-Fi, my Kindle can use it, my tablets can use it. If I play a game, the phone heats up and stops reacting to touch, that never happened before, little things don't work. It seemed better after Anniversary update, then they did the cumulative update of it and now it has new cool bugs. That touch thing is one of them.
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