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Am I the only one who feels sorry for Caz?
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Marcusjll
13-09-2016
She's clearly not an evil person. She has good intentions. She just takes things to heart. She seems to have no family or friends, which would explain why she becomes overly attached to a particular person.
Mel94
13-09-2016
I don't think she's as bad as Kate and Sophie make her out to be. She's misguided and controlling but I'm betting the reasons for it stem back to her childhood and that's why she doesn't talk to them. I think Kate and Sophie have been vile to her, especially with the misunderstanding about giving Kate flowers for her mum's anniversary. All they do js treat her like a piece of dirt, you wouldn't think that Kate was supposed to marry her not too long ago. Fair enough that she doesn't want anything to do with Caz anymore, but it's not like she won't let her live in peace.
Autumn-Dreams
13-09-2016
I agree that Kate and Sophie have been vile to her. I am starting to loathe Sophie Webster.

At what point did Corrie decide to make her a nasty evil cow?

I have to say though, (regrettably,) that I find Rhea Bailey's acting quite poor. (The girl who plays Caz.) I am really struggling with her. Can't help thinking she wouldn't be getting any acting jobs if she didn't have a famous singer for a sister.
Marcusjll
13-09-2016
You both are right, in my opinion. Kate and Sophie are coming across as the childish, petit ones, they're bullying the poor girl! Caz has no family or friends, and she doesn't deserve to be treated like that and be made to feel so small. I wouldn't wish loneliness or isolation on anyone.

The funny thing is, I don't think Sophie or Kate are meant to come across as Unlikeable. Similarly to Andrea/Lori on The Walking Dead and Kate on Lost, who were meant to be popular leading females, but loathed by the majority. About 3 years ago, I never understood the hate for Sophie, but I do now. She's astronomically annoying.
notdebbiedingle
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Marcusjll:
“She's clearly not an evil person. She has good intentions. She just takes things to heart. She seems to have no family or friends, which would explain why she becomes overly attached to a particular person.”

She's turned into quite a fascinating character and I would far rather lose Kate from the show than her tbh!!
Do I feel sorry for her? Yes to a degree because the army has institutionalised her so that she is awkward & doesn't really have a clue how to live a normal life!! She needs another person as a prop to lean on, first Kate & now Maria, but her army training has also made her resourceful & able to pick out someone vulnerable to attatch herself to!!
How 'evil' she is remains to be seen, the burglary trick was at best reckless & immoral, I'm going to reserve judgement on that until I see if
Spoiler
she is responsible for Ozzie's demise!!

Either way from the evidence they have so far Kate, Sophie & Aidan's campaign against her is more than OTT, though sadly I fear they may ultimately be proved right about her!!
FusionFury
13-09-2016
Whatever Aidan's intentions he DID do her a favour getting her the job.

She should be more grateful, instead she is always so passive aggressive to people and lashing out. Which is why people find it hard to give her sympathy
SULLA
13-09-2016
Yes. She is far too devious and self serving
claremonts
13-09-2016
I'm reserving judgement on Caz at the moment, although i disliked her from the first time i saw her on screen.
Her future actions (and intentions) are yet to be seen, but while i did feel just a tiny smidge of sympathy for her whilst watching last night's episodes, Caz has brought a lot of her troubles on herself, and you can't forget the bad things that she has done to Maria and Kate.
Also, I feel the same about the above-mentioned spoiler!
notdebbiedingle
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“Whatever Aidan's intentions he DID do her a favour getting her the job.

She should be more grateful, instead she is always so passive aggressive to people. Which is why people find it hard to give her sympathy”

I suppose, but I'm beginning to like Aidan less & less at the moment!! He doesn't really do favours for anyone but himself as far as I can see!!
I'm actually really enjoying Maria giving him a hard time, even though she was partly at fault for their 'liaison' for not giving his advances the brush off!!
owen10
13-09-2016
How can you feel sorry for someone who set up a burglary just for Maria to get scared so she can stay in her flat
Glendarroch
13-09-2016
I don't normally comment on CS threads but yes, I do feel sorry for her. She's s struggling to cope having left the army ( something that's s very hard for a lot of ex soldiers)she's s wound up to the degree that suggests there's more to it and she seems to have no one to support her
owen10
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I don't normally comment on CS threads but yes, I do feel sorry for her. She's s struggling to cope having left the army ( something that's s very hard for a lot of ex soldiers)she's s wound up to the degree that suggests there's more to it and she seems to have no one to support her”

Oh what a shame

It is a pity she has not been a good friend to Maria then, instead letting her get hurt by the bloke who broke into her flat
Glendarroch
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Oh what a shame

It is a pity she has not been a good friend to Maria then, instead letting her get hurt by the bloke who broke into her flat”

What she did to Maria was awful but I can still feel sorry for her as there's s obviously something seriously wrong with her.
B*witched
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“What she did to Maria was awful but I can still feel sorry for her as there's s obviously something seriously wrong with her.”

She's an opportunist and while I do think it must be hard for her to live in civilian life after being in the army it's no excuse for what she did to Maria. Caz can't keep using that or whatever family problems problems she's had as an excuse forever.
little-monster
13-09-2016
Apart of me does feel sorry for her
Coming out of the army and trying to adjust to everyday life must be tough.

and also, she was a victim of homophobic abuse which led to her fighting back and being kicked out

She should realistically of been advised to have counselling.
Makson
13-09-2016
Yes, but mainly because Sophie and Kate are so deeply unlikeable that they make Caz look lovely in comparison.
Glendarroch
13-09-2016
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Glendarroch
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by B*witched:
“She's an opportunist and while I do think it must be hard for her to live in civilian life after being in the army it's no excuse for what she did to Maria. Caz can't keep using that or whatever family problems problems she's had as an excuse forever.”

My problem is that she doesn't seem to have anyone else to turn to. Why is she having to rely on Maria, a relative stranger? Of course she can't use her family problems a s an excusefor hurting others but she seems to be frighteningly alone in life. She had no option but to live rough a few weeks ago.
drogdaz
13-09-2016
Completely agree. I think Caz has been given a raw deal. The other night it seemed like Kate was the one taunting her outside Roy's, then of course we have the sanctimonious, predator Sophie always around to voice her opinion when Caz messes up.

I don't think she's a bad character as she's been made out to be, I actually think Kate and Sophie are more bitchy. But as we know from spoilers, things will turn nasty with Caz soon enough, but up until now I actually feel quite sad for her, and I hate the way Sophie just wormed her way in there, essentially broke up Caz and Kate and now spends her days bullying Caz.
notdebbiedingle
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“My problem is that she doesn't seem to have anyone else to turn to. Why is she having to rely on Maria, a relative stranger? Of course she can't use her family problems a s an excusefor hurting others but she seems to be frighteningly alone in life. She had no option but to live rough a few weeks ago.”

It would be interesting to learn more about her background pre Army & why she is so dependant on one person all the time, first Kate, now Maria!!
Hankshaw
13-09-2016
Caz can't accept when things go wrong. She's deluded herself into thinking she can manipulate people around her into getting her back to a life she's lost. She's also been in the army and I've no idea what that has done to her state of mind. She's her own worst enemy at times.
timebug
13-09-2016
The main problem I have with the character
is that the so called 'actress' chosen for the
part, simply can't act. Wooden? Wood looks
dynamic in comparison!
ewoodie
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Makson:
“Yes, but mainly because Sophie and Kate are so deeply unlikeable that they make Caz look lovely in comparison.”

Apart from the burglary - yes.

Does Corrie think we should like Sophie and Kate?
notdebbiedingle
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Apart from the burglary - yes.

Does Corrie think we should like Sophie and Kate?”

I liked Sophie many moons ago up to that ridiculous storyline of her suddenly falling for the previously totally un-gay Amber, who suddenly decided she fancied a bit of either, purely to facilitate an exit s/l for Sian but since then the character has been butchered into a nasty, judgemental little sourpuss without a smile or a good word for anybody, and any memories of her being a Christian & showing Christian values evaporated years ago!! I would love to get the old Sophie back but I'm beginning to think she's been too long gone now!!
As for Kate I took an instant dislike to the character when she first arrived & every scene she's been in since this Caz s/l heated up makes me dislike her more & more!! Awful character!!
Janet Plank
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“How can you feel sorry for someone who set up a burglary just for Maria to get scared so she can stay in her flat”

Maria or little Liam , or even Ozzie dog, could have been seriously hurt. I hope that Maria finds out about the fake burglary before she becomes even closer to Caz.
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