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Some sources are saying it has shifted to Mondays, but as it didn't arrive yesterday, I checked out the Netflix news site.
The latest statement is that the Premiere will be on Wednesday, but after that the show will be uploaded for UK subscribers on Mondays, about 24 hours after the US transmission (which would put it into the early hours of Tuesday....) Hope this helps. |
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The ratings for the premiere were on a par with the spring ratings so I suspect they will slip. Some recap sites aren't even going to bother regular recaps anymore so this show is rapidly losing interest for viewers. Some suggest it was only given a 6th season because ABC needs time to develop new shows. I honestly can't see this having a season 7.
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I just read recaps now and many US posters complain about the going round in circles plots. Captain Swan and Hook were dreadful mistakes and just pandering fans. I heard the commentary on the finale dvd of season 2 where the head writer praised Colin. This was where it all went wrong. He was great as the swashbuckling pirate. I still remember the shock when he punched Belle in the tower. He knifed his own father. So many villainous acts yet they want the audience to believe in this couple.
The fixation on him from late on in season four was a weak point. By season five it was just agitating, and the opening episode of season six was relatively inoffensive but did nothing to turn that around. Hook is a pirate, a villain... yet that story has been utterly lost on him. For all the shows faults at least Regina is still believably the Evil Queen (it's at least her obvious running story), Rumple is still believably Rumple. Hook seemed to have more of an identity transplant and he's just not interesting to watch. Pairing him up with the lead of the show has only served to drag her down with him and it feels like a bit of a void really. A void they've failed to fill with anything worthwhile. His character development has been utterly unconvincing. And the show tries to force you into caring about him, when frankly even monotonous-go-around-in-circles Belle is more interesting than he is. The show has a real problem with writing decent male characters. Charming has been cast aside repeatedly for years to the dullsville heap - his only storyline in the back half of last season was a b-plot in an episode called Sisters for crying out loud! Rumple has the villainy going for him but they just haven't known what to do with him for a long time either and so his character has gradually stagnated to the point his scenes basically repeat past ones now. Hook speaks for himself in the poor male character department. Henry used to have the cute kid protagonist thing going for him but since growing up a lot more he's been lumbered with a clichéd awkward romance story and the most cringeworthy dialogue you could imagine - they still write him like a ten year old sometimes! And the list goes on, Hades was literally given a u-turn on his character development because the plot demanded it and the season needed wrapping up. Robin Hood was cast into the background as soon as Regina's love story was appeased and they never actually did anything with him (apart from trying to sweep under the rug that they basically had Zelena rape him). Merlin was painted as being this all-powerful character in Season 5 that amounted to very little and was gone in no time. Arthur literally came running out of some hedges at the end of Season 5 and hastily got murdered so that he could help wrap up Hook's little death storyline. There isn't one male character in the show that is well written anymore - the closest we have is Mr Hyde, and that's only because he's playing the role of resident big bad right now. If he turned to good and needed characterisation you could rely on the show to let him down. It's a definite weakness the show has, and so putting Hook so front and centre and dragging down your female lead at the same time does not make for a successful or as enjoyable a show. |
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The show has a real problem with writing decent male characters.
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When i checked out Netflix on my TV last night, and searched for OUAT, it said new episode will be available Thursday.
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I watched it at Midnight yesterday - it is on Netflix UK now.
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Somewhat better than anything the first half of Season 5 produced and on a par with anything from the latter half of that season as well to be honest.
The saviour storyline sounds a little more interesting than Emma as the Dark One from last season. She'll die but it won't stick and so on. I do love the needling with her and Hyde though, who is a brilliant baddie. Redbird is totally Iago, right? Also more Aladdin/Jafar scenes. I'm not greedy but I still want more of that though. Zelena and Evil Regina could be an interesting temporary team up. Kind of don't blame our Regina for losing it a little with Zelena in this one. Great Regina/Snow scenes. Having Captain Swan as background helps the show and that pairing as well. Loved the Beauty And The Beast stuff with Belle and Rumple. The Morpheus twist was a little predictable but I like it though, 8/10 |
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Apparantley I hate myself because I can't stop watching this terrible show.
Emma keeping secrets again? Regina being self pitying again? Zelena bored of being good after 5 seconds again? I just can't with this show. Seems we're in a loop. |
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Big Spoiler about a returning cast member ..
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Big Spoiler about a returning cast member ..
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Big Spoiler about a returning cast member ..
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Typical that the only one who hasn't returned is Neal, the one the whole show's premise was actually set around - Rumple wanting to find him and make amends
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Lol, just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the creators have completely run out of ideas for what to do with this show.
Typical that the only one who hasn't returned is Neal, the one the whole show's premise was actually set around - Rumple wanting to find him and make amends ![]() Or quality. You wait and wait for something exciting to happen and it teases, but nothing ever really happens. Look:
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Not a bad premiere. I feel like not even writing on here all it is pure bashing here
Like the set up of arcs for Emma, Regina and Rumple it seems. Heart breaks for Emma. I can understand her keeping a secret, but she needs to tell Hook since it affects him too as he loses her again and also her parents and Henry. I look forward to the Emma/Hook scenes and Charming Family scenes. I actually like Hook and Charming as male characters and who they are. I think Hook has had a good redemption story etc. Finally Belle stands up and makes a decision. I really not into this split queen thing with Regina, because its either wanting to rewrite a book or undo her evil side when she made it. (and i never was into her and Robin, he was just dull and couldnt act) I like Hyde as a villain, he is intriguing. |
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I've yet to see the first episode of S6 but I've now finally seen the last two episodes of S5 and I thought the two of those together were better than the whole rest of the season. Quote:
Not a bad premiere. I feel like not even writing on here all it is pure bashing here
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I've yet to see the first episode of S6 but I've now finally seen the last two episodes of S5 and I thought the two of those together were better than the whole rest of the season.
It's one of the few shows I hate watch. I really can't stand it but I can't stop watching... The only other show I've ever felt that way about is Doctor Who, which I find absolutely awful in every possible way (this past few years). They're both on a par with insipid characters, pointless stories, and absolutely zero payoff. Season 6 is the final of Once Upon a Time, though. And let's all set our expectations to negative figures because we know there'll be no decent payoff at the end of the show. Quote:
Not a bad premiere. I feel like not even writing on here all it is pure bashing here.
Maybe they have used a bit of black magic in every episode... Ultimately, we don't have to say positive things all the time about every show. It was utterly charming in season 1, but the writers really didn't know what to do with the show and it really does show. |
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Oh PLEASE. Discussing a show and its faults is not bashing it. OUAT is a hopeless show - yet it somehow manages to keep me watching. No idea how.
Maybe they have used a bit of black magic in every episode... Ultimately, we don't have to say positive things all the time about every show. It was utterly charming in season 1, but the writers really didn't know what to do with the show and it really does show. Also maybe just me but the CGI is so poor in this show, seems to be getting worse. Like Doctor Who bad. Agents of shield on same network which gets lower ratings looks like a film. I actually really enjoyed the first ep, hope it continues this. |
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Saying it's a hopeless show is bashing it, I guess people get annoyed when you call it that who still enjoy watching. But I agree with your first point. After S6 it deserved most of its criticisms. I watched pretty much most weeks as soon as it aired from S1 to 5 but last season I stopped that, it was tough to watch. Didn't think you could write the Arthur legends/Greek gods badly but they did alright (not including the last 2 eps cause they were good).
I'm just happy that the writers seem to feel they can throw any old nonsense at us. |
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The Saviour - 7/10
A Bitter Draught - 8/10 Not sure whether this thread is more US or UK-pace oriented, so I'm keeping my thoughts under spoiler tags...
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Season 6 is the final of Once Upon a Time, though.. |
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That hasn't been confirmed anywhere as far as I can tell
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PS. I googled and they're saying Season 6 isn't the end. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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Saying it's a hopeless show is bashing it, I guess people get annoyed when you call it that who still enjoy watching. .
Season Five was simply dreadful, they butchered Arthurian legend and, what's worse, left it all hanging without finishing off that story narrative before they went on to utterly ruin classic Greek mythology and, again, left story threads they didn't tidy up. The final two episodes of S5 were better than the rest of it put together and they were the ones setting up S6 so there's an element of hope that this season's going to be slightly more cohesive. Quote:
The Saviour - 7/10
A Bitter Draught - 8/10 Not sure whether this thread is more US or UK-pace oriented,
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People not liking the direction the show has taken with the Captain Swan storyline is not bashing.
I still enjoy the show and story arc, developments, characters (besides just rumple and regina) and despite some plotholes but i don't go right out just bash every little thing, thats what i see on this thread. So lets move on now. |
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The Count of Monte Cristo, I really liked the casting but it felt like they wasted him a bit even if was just get the Evil Queen to get one over on Regina. Hook's scenes with Belle were great and I liked him making amends with her and taking responsibility for his past actions too. Did not need to see Evil Queen flirting with Rumple at all. Zelena seemed too easily swayed by her as well. Regina will 'kill' Emma then? 7/10 6x03 Nice they remembered Cinderella/Ashley. Actually had the best flashbacks this season as well. Liked the stuff with his other stepsister and stepmother too. Also enjoyed seeing Snow wanting to get back into teaching and trying to talk David out of revenge as well. Not surprised that Hyde and the Evil Queen struck a deal with each other. They have potential as an alliance as well. Great stuff with Emma in this week as well, 8/10 |
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The Saviour - 7/10
A Bitter Draught - 8/10 The Other Shoe - 8/10 The Other Shoe is the kind of episode that doesn't necessarily show you what Once Upon A Time is capable of being at its best, but it's a reminder of what the show used to be capable of when a pretty standalone story was enough to satisfy, and a far cry from how bad some of the writing got in the previous season. So far the three episodes of Season 6 have all been distinct, and yet all feel distinctly part of the same package. It's a brilliant balancing act that so far beckons back to the first season of the show, but without feeling overly repetitive or stale. The Other Shoe like its predecessors taps into the rich backlog of characters worth seeing again. It also taps into the potential of the Disney/fairytale source material at its disposal and has a bit of fun with the story of Cinderella. It's a rather light-hearted and back-to-basics approach that just works, in part because it is now coupled with well-established ongoing main characters that are all involved in slightly more serious and more ongoing storylines. That's the balancing act, and if it can keep it up then the season ahead could be unexpectedly good. Cinderella's flashback story plays out here rather predictably, but doesn't disappoint (and the actress playing Lady Tremaine is suitably camp but cruel). As seems to be a trend with all adaptations of Cinderella, attention is drawn to one of the stepsisters whilst the other fades into the background not to be seen again - it doesn't detract from the episode and of course leaves the door open to explore more of this particularly story in future should the show want to, but it's one of a few quick conveniences the episode pulls. Apart from that though seeing Ashley again is a nice hark back to earlier seasons and reminds us that no matter how many underworlds and Camelot's stand in the way, this is still the same show at its heart. One thing has even been improved upon and that is notably the effects - true the CGI budget only stretched to one mouse friend for Cinderella, but the Royal Ball was very well realised - that's two episodes in a row that have delivered lavish ballroom sequences that looked remarkably well done. Perhaps the strongest thing about this episode though was its ability to find the time for everyone to have some kind of development, something going on. Dare say, it's very competent writing. Whilst not the most interesting thing going on, David was given something to do - a plotline of his own! It's been a while. And it's running in conjunction with Mary Margaret having her own story too - her desire to go back to teaching and accepting a life in Maine coming across as instantly more convincing than her botched attempt at becoming more like Snow White in Season 5 - a development that went nowhere. For his few lines they managed to make Henry feel genuine rather than forcing him to deliver lines a child would say (they seem to realise here that he's grown up a bit) and somehow miraculously they managed to make even a character like Hook less annoying - whilst still by no means a fan of the character, he wasn't remotely offensive or annoying here. And in between all of the above the episode also managed to find the time to drop in with Archie again which is in turn giving Emma the best and most character-driven story to work with that she's had in years. It found time to drop in with Zelena, with Hyde, with Belle, with Rumple, with the Evil Queen, and even had time to reaquaint us with Frankenstein again. Whilst not perfect the episode can't be accused of feeling rushed, and yet it delivered all of the above in between its Cinderella story. It's so busy and multi-faceted, and proves that Once Upon A Time doesn't need to constantly be firing on all cyllinders to impress... if it actually takes the time to explore its characters it is actually pretty good. This time around, particular praise seems due to Jennifer Morrison who seems much more lively and in tune as Emma at least compared to the way her character has been going for a fair long time, and to Lana Perilla who is essentially playing two character...and doing it fabulously. Whilst the verdict will remain out for a while on whether the split decision is a good one for the show, it's so far playing as a really decent moral dilemma because they're bothering to take the time to explore the various characters at their disposal. And part of what's making it work even better is that there's no clear-cut main villain right now either... the Evil Queen is the closest there is, but Hyde is a formidable threat as well with his own motives, and Rumple's role is predictably cloudy as always, whilst Jafar is out there somewhere too and is likely to play some kind of significant role. The lack of black-and-whiteness to the villainy this season has so far helped it to feel more realistic, more grounded. And if it keeps it up like this it may well end up being the best season in a while. Not since the Frozen storyline has it been this engaging from a main character perspective, and not since long before that has it been so good at giving so much from all its major players. |
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