Praying for Tina the woman child next.
Another EE Exit *spoiler*
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The axings so far have been spot on. I dont believe any of them will me missed. I applaud him getting rid of the deadwood characters but i look forward to seeing the type of characters he will introduce as i think new additions are most certainly needed.
Belinda Slater was the last decent addition to the show, i really want any future castings to impact the show and go the distance.
Belinda Slater was the last decent addition to the show, i really want any future castings to impact the show and go the distance.
Another one I think is a shame. I would have liked to see one of his sisters or a fresh storyline to give him some more purpose in the show, it seems like he has had next to no material but I liked him and thought he had promise.
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?
Originally Posted by Foxster Hotpot:
“Another one I think is a shame. I would have liked to see one of his sisters or a fresh storyline to give him some more purpose in the show, it seems like he has had next to know material but I liked him and thought he had promise.
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?”
“Another one I think is a shame. I would have liked to see one of his sisters or a fresh storyline to give him some more purpose in the show, it seems like he has had next to know material but I liked him and thought he had promise.
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?”
Excellent post, Foxster.
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Stupid move, Kyle is a decent character. Why axe him? Maybe SOC isn't as fond of the Slaters as we might have thought. Like Lee, this is another character who should've been kept on.
As each week passes, he's becoming the new Matthew Robinson. That may not be a massively terrible thing as MR's era was very good (Steve Owen/Matthew Rose/Saskia Duncan was brilliant). Creatively if he's more like Robinson and less like Kirkwood, Harwood, Newman or not prone to DTC's inconsistency, that's fine with me.
Babe and Shakil need to be cut asap.
Tina might become more interesting with no Sonia around.”
“Stupid move, Kyle is a decent character. Why axe him? Maybe SOC isn't as fond of the Slaters as we might have thought. Like Lee, this is another character who should've been kept on.
As each week passes, he's becoming the new Matthew Robinson. That may not be a massively terrible thing as MR's era was very good (Steve Owen/Matthew Rose/Saskia Duncan was brilliant). Creatively if he's more like Robinson and less like Kirkwood, Harwood, Newman or not prone to DTC's inconsistency, that's fine with me.
Babe and Shakil need to be cut asap.
Tina might become more interesting with no Sonia around.”
Shakil is terrible. He is the worst character on the show right now in my opinion. Babe is brilliant though.
I[m sorry he's leaving as the character had potential but was given no real storyline.
Also he is generally a decent person and there aren't many nice people in Walford!
Also he is generally a decent person and there aren't many nice people in Walford!
I'd say we're prime for a new family to give the regulars a rest - a family a bit like the Fowlers/Beales when they first began - older generation, family dynamic plus some good kids - what the show needs - getting a bit bored of the usual families!
Annette Badland and SOC will have worked together on the Archers so it will be interesting to see if he does axe her.
Originally Posted by Barkers_Nipple:
“I'd say we're prime for a new family to give the regulars a rest - a family a bit like the Fowlers/Beales when they first began - older generation, family dynamic plus some good kids - what the show needs - getting a bit bored of the usual families!”
“I'd say we're prime for a new family to give the regulars a rest - a family a bit like the Fowlers/Beales when they first began - older generation, family dynamic plus some good kids - what the show needs - getting a bit bored of the usual families!”
We do need an ordinary family us viewers can relate to. Not like the Carters who moaned about how poor they were after buying a pub for cash.
I wanted to like Kyle but he wasn't played by a very good actor. He had one facial expression. Some news sources are saying he quit but I suspect he was indeed axed.
Originally Posted by Foxster Hotpot:
“Another one I think is a shame. I would have liked to see one of his sisters or a fresh storyline to give him some more purpose in the show, it seems like he has had next to no material but I liked him and thought he had promise.
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?”
“Another one I think is a shame. I would have liked to see one of his sisters or a fresh storyline to give him some more purpose in the show, it seems like he has had next to no material but I liked him and thought he had promise.
It seems as if SOC is just axing DTC characters and "easy targets" just as DTC did himself when he took over and they will inevitability replaced by new creations of his own. I dislike some of the characters and like others but I would rather they were given a chance with fresh material before rush axing them. For example I didnt think much of Pam and Les when they were given minimal screentime and their main storyline was cut up by storyblocking but when they have been given the right material and writing, I have really enjoyed the characters and found the acting brilliant. I think the wisest decision he has made so far has been Ronnie and Roxy because they are tired and becoming stale, having already had plenty thrown at them.
Who's next then... Vincent and Donna?”
Thing is that DTC cleared out EE of nearly every remaining character introduced by Kirkwood and Newman, a number of whom were good but needed better writing. Axing Dexter was the right decision but the likes of Jake, Kirsty and Lola a year later felt more spiteful than anything. Cora is literally the only character under contract (though she's on a break) from the post-Santer, pre-DTC period.
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Thing is that DTC cleared out EE of nearly every remaining character introduced by Kirkwood and Newman, a number of whom were good but needed better writing. Axing Dexter was the right decision but the likes of Jake, Kirsty and Lola a year later felt more spiteful than anything. Cora is literally the only character under contract (though she's on a break) from the post-Santer, pre-DTC period.”
“Thing is that DTC cleared out EE of nearly every remaining character introduced by Kirkwood and Newman, a number of whom were good but needed better writing. Axing Dexter was the right decision but the likes of Jake, Kirsty and Lola a year later felt more spiteful than anything. Cora is literally the only character under contract (though she's on a break) from the post-Santer, pre-DTC period.”
Very good point. DTC axed *every single character* introduced by his two immediate predecessors. (And I'm including Cora in this, she's been off screen for almost a year and there's no sign of her coming back yet). Admittedly some of Kirkwood and Newman's characters were rubbish, but it did feel like DTC was getting rid of them literally because they weren't "his". Lola for example was a perfectly good (and popular) character, but as soon as DTC took over she effectively became an extra for 18 months and then he gave her the lamest exit of all time. Tell me that wasn't personal.
Originally Posted by haphash:
“I[m sorry he's leaving as the character had potential but was given no real storyline.
Also he is generally a decent person and there aren't many nice people in Walford!”
“I[m sorry he's leaving as the character had potential but was given no real storyline.
Also he is generally a decent person and there aren't many nice people in Walford!”
With you on this one
The problem with Kyle was DTC wanted a Trans character, He said it months before the character was introduced. He encouraged trans actors to audition. No character was storylined, they didn't know who was going to play the role.
It was a one dimensional character.
The introduction worked as added to Stacey's mental health issues but once the reveal was done then that was it. Riley wasn't a strong actor which meant Kyle didn't go anywhere, There could have been a number of storylines created for Kyle but I think they have just seen the actor isn't that great
It was a one dimensional character.
The introduction worked as added to Stacey's mental health issues but once the reveal was done then that was it. Riley wasn't a strong actor which meant Kyle didn't go anywhere, There could have been a number of storylines created for Kyle but I think they have just seen the actor isn't that great
Originally Posted by funkycub:
“The problem with Kyle was DTC wanted a Trans character, He said it months before the character was introduced. He encouraged trans actors to audition. No character was storylined, they didn't know who was going to play the role.
It was a one dimensional character.
The introduction worked as added to Stacey's mental health issues but once the reveal was done then that was it. Riley wasn't a strong actor which meant Kyle didn't go anywhere, There could have been a number of storylines created for Kyle but I think they have just seen the actor isn't that great”
“The problem with Kyle was DTC wanted a Trans character, He said it months before the character was introduced. He encouraged trans actors to audition. No character was storylined, they didn't know who was going to play the role.
It was a one dimensional character.
The introduction worked as added to Stacey's mental health issues but once the reveal was done then that was it. Riley wasn't a strong actor which meant Kyle didn't go anywhere, There could have been a number of storylines created for Kyle but I think they have just seen the actor isn't that great”
See I don't see Kyle as a trans character, I just see him as Kyle. Having said that I do think an opportunity has been missed to follow his journey - possibly through his trans surgery and falling in love and having a relationship.
What I didn't like about Kyle was having him as a secret Slater and retconning Brian into a bigamist. But DTC loved his retconning, didn't he!
Originally Posted by Barkers_Nipple:
“I'd say we're prime for a new family to give the regulars a rest - a family a bit like the Fowlers/Beales when they first began - older generation, family dynamic plus some good kids - what the show needs - getting a bit bored of the usual families!”
“I'd say we're prime for a new family to give the regulars a rest - a family a bit like the Fowlers/Beales when they first began - older generation, family dynamic plus some good kids - what the show needs - getting a bit bored of the usual families!”
I agree and added on another thread that we need a solid black family which includes teenagers and which is not fractured (like the Foxes) or seriously messed up (like the Hubbards). This is just not reflected in EE and hasn't been since the Taverniers!
Either this or a Chinese family...
thank the lords......Kyle is going. Nice concept but they really had no plans after his secret was out and while i think he was a below average actor it was nice that they had a real transgendered actor playing a transgendered character
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