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Pistorius..prosecution heads for supreme court
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curleys wife
07-11-2016
Originally Posted by stressfree_man:
“How many other recently convicted murderers without a good reason for doing so are given such a status in SA?
It only happened because he is Oscar.”

That's certainly one opinion. Do you have anything to support it, or is it based on gut feeling?
porky42
07-11-2016
Originally Posted by curleys wife:
“That's certainly one opinion. Do you have anything to support it, or is it based on gut feeling?”

I'm just hearing a grumbling sound. It must be the cheese I had for supper.
Heatherbell
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by stressfree_man:
“I would suggest that both females and a bedroom where well within his reach during his recent shin dig outing ”

Reminds me of Shrien Dewani throwing a pizza party after his murdered wife's cremation .Some people are just weird .

(from Anni's father) On the day before the cremation I received a phone call from Preyen, Shrien’s brother, informing me that Anni’s body was at a funeral parlour in London.
Apparently there was to be a pizza party later in the evening to give Anni a send-off. A what? A pizza party? I was so offended. How could my daughter’s memory be honoured by a pizza?
stressfree_man
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by curleys wife:
“That's certainly one opinion. Do you have anything to support it, or is it based on gut feeling?”

I am bolstered by the fact that despite you being much more committed to your cause than I am to mine in these matters you have not put forward a conclusive argument to suggest it is common practice for recently convicted dangerous murderers.
curleys wife
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by stressfree_man:
“I am bolstered by the fact that despite you being much more committed to your cause than I am to mine in these matters you have not put forward a conclusive argument to suggest it is common practice for recently convicted dangerous murderers.”

The prison spokesperson said wtte it was common practice to be eligible for compassionate leave if the inmate is classed as low risk.
benjamini
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“I'm just hearing a grumbling sound. It must be the cheese I had for supper.”

What was that then , Double Gloucester Old Spot ? Pretty indigestible I agree!
Stormy Night
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by curleys wife:
“The prison spokesperson said wtte it was common practice to be eligible for compassionate leave if the inmate is classed as low risk.”

Hmmm... I assume they assigned a guard detail to look out after him. Someone so vulnerable, anxious, depressed (possibly even suicidal), prone to panic attacks, and susceptible to irrational responses at sudden startles should not be sent out unsupervised.

Why on earth would a convicted murderer be considered low risk?
curleys wife
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Stormy Night:
“Hmmm... I assume they assigned a guard detail to look out after him. Someone so vulnerable, anxious, depressed (possibly even suicidal), prone to panic attacks, and susceptible to irrational responses at sudden startles should not be sent out unsupervised.

Why on earth would a convicted murderer be considered low risk?”

The news articles indicated that he was accompanied by armed guards.

I don't think an inmate's perceived risk is determined simply by the nature of the offence. Isn't there usually detailed risk assessment that looks at risk to self, risk to others, risk of reoffending etc?
porky42
08-11-2016
I don't think a person who killed responding to an intruder with no previous conviction of violence is too much of a risk to be allowed out for a few hours with an armed guard.
plankwalker
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“I don't think a person who killed responding to an intruder with no previous conviction of violence is too much of a risk to be allowed out for a few hours with an armed guard.”

No conviction, just a trail of smashed up things. Threats to break legs, verbal abuse, shooting guns in public places and banging doors on girls legs (that door thing again).

He's a good boy really, not an ounce of anger or malice in him. Although he'd kill an intruder without identifying who was behind the door, whether armed or not etc. Doesn't believe in warning shots (in case it hit him) or even one shot. But again not his fault, because according to him the person behind the door (Reeva) never ever at any time before, during and after being ripped to bits uttered any sound.
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“No conviction, just a trail of smashed up things. Threats to break legs, verbal abuse, shooting guns in public places and banging doors on girls legs (that door thing again).

He's a good boy really, not an ounce of anger or malice in him. Although he'd kill an intruder without identifying who was behind the door, whether armed or not etc. Doesn't believe in warning shots (in case it hit him) or even one shot. But again not his fault, because according to him the person behind the door (Reeva) never ever at any time before, during and after being ripped to bits uttered any sound.”

I might have some sympathy if he had been found guilty of murdering Reeva but he was not. He was found guilty of murdering a person who he thought was an intruder. The High Court found that he thought it was an intruder and the Supreme Court that it was murder. Going forward that is all that matters for any appeal that may happen.

In my book the situation of killing an intruder who you think has broken into your home is not the same as killing someone you know is not a threat.

We all know it was Reeva and that there was plenty of evidence he knew but for the legal process that matters squat now.
plankwalker
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“I might have some sympathy if he had been found guilty of murdering Reeva but he was not. He was found guilty of murdering a person who he thought was an intruder. The High Court found that he thought it was an intruder and the Supreme Court that it was murder. Going forward that is all that matters for any appeal that may happen.

In my book the situation of killing an intruder who you think has broken into your home is not the same as killing someone you know is not a threat.

We all know it was Reeva and that there was plenty of evidence he knew but for the legal process that matters squat now.”

My eyesight is fading these days. I leave the ever so splitting of fine hairs to others.
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“My eyesight is fading these days. I leave the ever so splitting of fine hairs to others.”

My eyesight's pretty good. Spotted it years ago
Stormy Night
08-11-2016
Good thing he has never been known to try to threaten or intimidate his keepers when he does not get his way. Do you suppose Nurse Mashabane was one of his escorts?
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Stormy Night:
“Good thing he has never been known to try to threaten or intimidate his keepers when he does not get his way. Do you suppose Nurse Mashabane was one of his escorts?”

Please, he banged a table. Big deal, I've banged a few tables in my time too.
CBFreak
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“Please, he banged a table. Big deal, I've banged a few tables in my time too.”

Have you shot a gun in a restaurant?
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by CBFreak:
“Have you shot a gun in a restaurant?”

If someone was stupid enough to hand me a loaded gun to look at that was ready to fire I almost certainly would yes.

Hardly makes me Jesse James.
codeblue
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“If someone was stupid enough to hand me a loaded gun to look at that was ready to fire I almost certainly would yes.

Hardly makes me Jesse James.”

Still with the excuses for a murderer?

Shocking, it really is.
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Still with the excuses for a murderer?

Shocking, it really is.”

I've never murdered anyone.
stressfree_man
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Still with the excuses for a murderer?

Shocking, it really is.”

These crusaders could out trump Trump.
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by stressfree_man:
“These crusaders could out trump Trump.”

You're the ones crusading against the legal findings.
stressfree_man
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42:
“You're the ones crusading against the legal findings.”

If only there where a retrial or a Judge Leach presiding instead of Mrs Overall. That is about all that OP defenders have got going for their cause really
porky42
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by stressfree_man:
“If only there where a retrial or a Judge Leach presiding instead of Mrs Overall. That is about all that OP defenders have got going for their cause really”

Well lots of people don't like court decisions but once it's been settled there's really little point in trying to put balls on your auntie.
Heatherbell
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by curleys wife:
“The news articles indicated that he was accompanied by armed guards.

I don't think an inmate's perceived risk is determined simply by the nature of the offence. Isn't there usually detailed risk assessment that looks at risk to self, risk to others, risk of reoffending etc?”

Bib . Very wise of the guards to arm themselves in his company .
Pity Reeva never thought to .
porky42
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by porky42
Octopuses are very intelligent. They are able to predict the outcome of football tournaments.

Pigs are similarly prophetic and have £5K on Trump for president.



Originally Posted by benjamini:
“Possibly prophetic but wrong wrong wrong ”

$5K at 55/1 is right right right.

Lol.
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