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Old 11-12-2016, 21:21
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Well, it is quantifiable, just as anything that goes across the internet is quantifiable if you're looking at the 'right' data, which one assumes the company mentioned would be. I just don't see how it's possible.
Unless you can track every last individual downloading a torrent, then you can't get any sort of figure. And you can't fact-check such an article in any way whatsoever.

BTW, in 2003, I had a three-week fling with Courtney Cox.

See how easy it is to make stuff up? It was actually Jennifer Aniston.

Are they saying that the three or four episodes of TGT have been downloaded more times than the sixty odd episodes of GoT? Maybe if they're comparing the first three episodes of each show, but that's hardly a like for like comparison.
Well, it's the Daily Mail. Like The Sun, the only thing they get right is the date.
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Old 11-12-2016, 22:06
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Why would people want a fuzzy picture when you can get a months trial free?
In this day and age do people really think that all illegal downloads are "fuzzy"?
You can download it in SD and HD 720p or HD 1080p. Far from fuzzy!
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Old 12-12-2016, 00:29
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I'm really enjoying the new series, but wish that James May and Richard Hammond got more to do. It seems to be more centred on JC than it used to be, with James and Richard just acting as stooges all the time. In Top Gear they did actually get to do full items on their own occasionally.

The American must go!
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Old 12-12-2016, 01:49
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Seeing as we have to put up with Celebrity Brain Crash for this series, I think we should utilize it & nominate celebrities whom we could imagine getting their just desserts!
My picks would be Freddie Flintoff & Joe Swash.
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Old 12-12-2016, 02:11
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I'm slightly amazed at how the Grand Tour just feels totally and utterly like Top Gear. Obviously, with Clarkson, Hammond and May as presenters, it would always feel familiar. But it's just so blatantly Top Gear 2. The tent is the equivalent of the hangar, 'Conversation Street' is the 'News', they've got a pet racing driver, their own track, a lap-time board, etc, etc. It's as close as it possibly can be. I'm not complaining, I enjoyed the old Top Gear, but I thought they might have tried changing the format a little bit more than they have.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:11
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I have been watching TGT, but to be honest, I am not feeling so entertained by it. It just seems to be focussed on JC, with JM and Hamster not doing much else. I also miss the antics of them building their cars and so on as they used to do in Top Gear. Now they no longer show any of that.

Although I am glad that we don't have smellovison I am glad that I wasn't eating when they showed the maggots!

The production values look amazing, with fantastic scenery and so on. However, the actual things are a bit boring. I used to enjoy it when they had limited budgets for cars to go on epic journeys. Now it has been supercars and hypercars, with the exception of the environmental challenge. I did enjoy the Hamster parking sensor though.

They need to include more funny things, I used to laugh at the older Top Gear episodes, but now not much more than a smile.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:48
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Youre bitter because you dont know any good streaming sites arent you?
Nope I just have an overwhelming sense of doing the decent thing
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:51
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Seeing as we have to put up with Celebrity Brain Crash for this series, I think we should utilize it & nominate celebrities whom we could imagine getting their just desserts!
My picks would be Freddie Flintoff & Joe Swash.
I would like to nominate Philip Schofield, Stephen Mulhern and Ant & Dec.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:55
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Why would people want a fuzzy picture when you can get a months trial free?
Not to mention the chance to get PC infected by virus, spyware etc and become the target of hackers from those dodgy sites.
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:07
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Nope I just have an overwhelming sense of doing the decent thing
Be nice if Amazon thought the same way when it came to paying tax!
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:31
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Unless you can track every last individual downloading a torrent, then you can't get any sort of figure.
You don't track the individual, you track the meta-data of whatever it is you're monitoring. In this case, the unique 'digital signatures' of Amazon's TGT episodes, plus the signatures associated with torrent files.

Just because a 'transmission' (i.e. a download in this case) can't necessarily be traced back to the individual that initiated it, doesn't mean there isn't any evidence that that transmission occured. The meta-data will have been logged somewhere, or maybe just detected, as all those 1's and 0's zipped along the fibre optics. Obviously you need to know what you're looking for, and presumably this anti-piracy company does.

Yes, it's possible the numbers provided by them are utter bollocks and they're just pitching for a contract with Amazon by making them aware of the scale of the problem, but it's entirely possible to do. If it wasn't, how would legal downloads of anything be quantifiable?
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:38
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Can't believe people still use torrent sites when there's so many free streaming sites
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:57
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Can't believe people still use torrent sites when there's so many free streaming sites
I'm the opposite. Why stream when you can just download in minutes and watch off-line whenever and wherever you want?

(I'm not talking about TGT here. I do stream that, but only because I have a Prime account. If I didn't, I'd torrent it.)
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:29
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I'm the opposite. Why stream when you can just download in minutes and watch off-line whenever and wherever you want?

(I'm not talking about TGT here. I do stream that, but only because I have a Prime account. If I didn't, I'd torrent it.)
Fair point
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:01
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For some reason The grand tour has a blurry picture on my iPhone but not iPad any ideas what's causing it?
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:10
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I have been watching TGT, but to be honest, I am not feeling so entertained by it. It just seems to be focussed on JC, with JM and Hamster not doing much else. I also miss the antics of them building their cars and so on as they used to do in Top Gear. Now they no longer show any of that.
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Well they built 3 cars this week

This is TGT not TG. They are only 4 shows in with 8 more to come in this series alone. Who's to say what they may have in store for us to enjoy
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:51
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For some reason The grand tour has a blurry picture on my iPhone but not iPad any ideas what's causing it?
It's probably that Amazon is trying to guess what the best bitrate for that specific device is and guessing wrong. Are you using the same internet connection for both?
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Old 12-12-2016, 13:08
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Well they built 3 cars this week

This is TGT not TG. They are only 4 shows in with 8 more to come in this series alone. Who's to say what they may have in store for us to enjoy
Maybe he/she meant seeing the actual build rather us starting off with the finished product. I don't think they were all like this. The one with the amphibious cars certainly showed us some of the build process as JC was arguing with the chap that he wanted two engines fitting to his pickup.
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Old 12-12-2016, 13:10
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It's probably that Amazon is trying to guess what the best bitrate for that specific device is and guessing wrong. Are you using the same internet connection for both?
Tried different connections and 4G still the same. Only plays properly now via my iPad.
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:10
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Can't believe people still use torrent sites when there's so many free streaming sites
Exodus on Kodi I find quite good. I do have sky, netflix and amazon sub, know I could watch all shows on kodi, but I just use it as last resort really.
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:31
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Be nice if Amazon thought the same way when it came to paying tax!
That is their problem to worry about.

Those of us that paid willingly for something we wanted instead of expecting it for free can hold our heads high
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:33
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I'm slightly amazed at how the Grand Tour just feels totally and utterly like Top Gear. Obviously, with Clarkson, Hammond and May as presenters, it would always feel familiar. But it's just so blatantly Top Gear 2. The tent is the equivalent of the hangar, 'Conversation Street' is the 'News', they've got a pet racing driver, their own track, a lap-time board, etc, etc. It's as close as it possibly can be. I'm not complaining, I enjoyed the old Top Gear, but I thought they might have tried changing the format a little bit more than they have.
Yes but surely "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies. They had a winning formula in TG and have kept it as close as they can without being hauled before the beak.
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:38
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Having watched this week's, it's certainly the most 'Top Gear' of the episodes so far, and much better for it, in particular the Porsche review at the start.

The on-screen lap time board is quite possibly the most charmless thing in the world, though.
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Old 12-12-2016, 15:32
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The on-screen lap time board is quite possibly the most charmless thing in the world, though.
I guess that a hand-written one (or a "rustic" one) would be considered Top Gear territory.
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Old 12-12-2016, 15:36
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Agree with your sentiments here, especially your first and last sentence, there is still time for the tweaks I feel it needs.

That said some genuine laughs from the fourth episode and thought the Hammond parking sensor was genius!!! But I also felt the challenge dragged on a bit.and I wish they lose the celebrity killing bit now.
Agree with the special guest star killing thing.

The TV series Police Squad used to do that in the 80s, but that was part of the show.

On TGT, it was funny during episode 1 & continuing to episode 2 would have been funny, but there's no need for it now.
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