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Old 16-09-2016, 19:10
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Tuesday 4th October 2016 at 9pm, two days after the US premiere

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Old 16-09-2016, 19:18
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Seems to be closer to Real Humans than the Yul Brynner classic. Could be interesting though.
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Old 17-09-2016, 03:04
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various trailers:

https://youtu.be/IuS5huqOND4
https://youtu.be/niFjn-uax3M
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Old 17-09-2016, 03:08
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Seems to be closer to Real Humans than the Yul Brynner classic. Could be interesting though.
It's Michael Crichton. The real link here is to Jurassic Park, although inevitably there's going to seem to be some commonality with Humans/Real Humans.

What happens in the movie seems like it's still valid (albeit a modernised less cheesy version). What this is about is what led to what happens in the movie. The morality of what the humans do, which gives an underpinning to what the Androids do. They've gone full Battlestar Galactica, basically, in taking some basic cheesy old school Sci-Fi and refreshing it. And remember, the Battlestar Galactica remake covered a lot of this Androids reacting like humans stuff even before Real Humans), so we need to cite that show for other reasons as well. Or even the movie Bladerunner.

And Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris? You can't beat that casting. I don't even think it's possible to beat that casting. Evan Rachel Wood, James Marsden and Thandie Newton appear to be pulling their weight too (at least if what's in the trailers are any indication).
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Old 17-09-2016, 06:15
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This is a forty year old sci-fi cult classic that really does not need a television series, Yul Brynner was superb and was eerily robot-like in every movement. James Brolin was good too, dad of Josh. Like so many remakes, this series in unnecessary and will detract from, not add to the original work.

Brynner had that Putinesque dead-eye stare all though his career, one look freezes your blood, must be a Russian thing.
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Old 17-09-2016, 07:00
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This is a forty year old sci-fi cult classic that really does not need a television series, Yul Brynner was superb and was eerily robot-like in every movement. James Brolin was good too, dad of Josh. Like so many remakes, this series in unnecessary and will detract from, not add to the original work.

Brynner had that Putinesque dead-eye stare all though his career, one look freezes your blood, must be a Russian thing.
Ed Harris is a damn good actor. I have faith he can do mile long robot stares pretty well too.

And 40 years ago computer technology was in it's infancy. Crichton actually PREDICTED computer viruses before they existed. But the rest hasn't aged that well. So there's a lot of room for updating. And the story of the original movie was a bare-bones three act action-horror movie, in essence. The Gunsligner was basically the first version ever of The Terminator. And that aspect got redone later quite well, so it's not like it was impossible.

It's kind of like saying Battlestar Galactica was just fine as was, so why remake it. Of course it was fine. But the remake worked because the original source left so much room.

It's not like remaking Ghostbusters. That was a product where the age didn't touch it much. Nobody needed THAT.
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Old 17-09-2016, 09:35
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There are just too many re-makes of everything now. No originality in the minds of writers and directors these days is really depressing. Ben Hur re-make with CGI ? The defining essence of epic films was their real scale, casts of thousands and real gigantic sets. Westworld will no doubt do CGI heavily too and it will look fake.

Just shielding my eyes from a re-make of Citizen Kane starring Tom Cruise.
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Old 17-09-2016, 11:51
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I'm pretty excited for this. The scale of the series looks epic. I also need something to replace GoT cravings..! Will rejoin Netflix soon so I can binge on Stranger Things.
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Old 17-09-2016, 17:59
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Sidse Babett Knudsen from Danish political drama Borgen is in the cast as well
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Old 17-09-2016, 18:12
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Sure looks good, definitely gonna give it a chance and see what the direction and general tone is.
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Old 17-09-2016, 20:42
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Sadly with HBO involved this will just be a show with graphic sex and violence but mostly sex. This will guarantee it a ratings winner. Loved the film though.
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Old 17-09-2016, 21:22
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There are just too many re-makes of everything now. No originality in the minds of writers and directors these days is really depressing. Ben Hur re-make with CGI ? The defining essence of epic films was their real scale, casts of thousands and real gigantic sets. Westworld will no doubt do CGI heavily too and it will look fake.

Just shielding my eyes from a re-make of Citizen Kane starring Tom Cruise.
Or Ben Hur remake with sound, bigger budget and more modern techniques as the Charlton Heston one was.
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:38
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With J.J Abrams involved this will be a sure fire winner

Has a LOST feel to it
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Old 19-09-2016, 00:47
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There are just too many re-makes of everything now. No originality in the minds of writers and directors these days is really depressing. Ben Hur re-make with CGI ? The defining essence of epic films was their real scale, casts of thousands and real gigantic sets. Westworld will no doubt do CGI heavily too and it will look fake.

Just shielding my eyes from a re-make of Citizen Kane starring Tom Cruise.
Who would pay for that last? The Ghost of L. Ron Hubbard? Cruise struggles to even put out Mission Impossible films anymore, so you have little to fear.

I didn't have much to say about the Ben Hur remake, until someone pointed out to me that the Charlton Heston version was ALREADY a remake (not one but TWO previous movie versions existed before the 1959 one--a 1907 short and a 1925 full production), and in fact while a great movie, the 1959 version wasn't even that loyal to the 1880 novel. That's not to say the latest Ben-Hur is any good, just that the outrage needs some perspective when your example was ALREADY a twice over remake (another example: the 1939 Judy Garland Wizard of Oz was also a remake--the 1925 predecessor in fact co-starred Oliver Hardy).

As for Westworld being "too CGI heavy"? While we only have a bit of footage, I think a simple look at what's in those trailers shows a clear preference for low key effects and gorgeous use of real sets. So "no doubt"? "No doubt" is the argument people make when they don't have evidence. In this case, I have doubt about it being "too CGI heavy", even if you do not, because the footage we've seen looks REALLY convincing. Your objections to CGI heavy modernity are extremely valid overall, but I believe you are taking a general concern that's proven true in a lot of modern work and are unfairly applying it here based on an assumption.

For the record, I also loathe 90% of remakes. But I also feel there's about one in ten where something brilliant happens, and that this could be one of them based upon what I've seen. I had the same feelings when I saw the early material for the Battlestar Galactica remake, and that worked out fairly well.

I don't even know if it's proper to even CALL this a remake. To me it looks like Nolan took the main premise of the original and just used it as a seed to tell a more complicated story. The original passes off the robot rebellion as a computer virus, but clearly that's not what's happening here. The original also only vaguely alludes to the grey morality of using a virtual environment to sin, whereas that seems to be the main point of this one. It's a theme that's grown, because it's the direction our real world has gone. A writer in 1973, even one as clever as Michael Crichton, just didn't have the same base from which to write a complex story about that part of it.
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Old 19-09-2016, 01:15
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With J.J Abrams involved this will be a sure fire winner

Has a LOST feel to it
Abrams is just a consulting producer.

The real name to get excited about is Jonathan Nolan, who wrote the story his brother turned into Memento, as well co-writing The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, and also was a big part of the great TV series, Person of Interest. Also The Prestige, if you've ever seen that fairly good film.

A bit more new material is revealed in this:
https://youtu.be/gAUoVqZ7BLw

And impressions from someone at IGN.com who's already seen the premiere episode: https://youtu.be/ExYotsCagrc
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Old 19-09-2016, 09:11
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Loved the original, so looking forward to this and hoping they get it right.
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Old 19-09-2016, 09:14
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I am very excited for this show, saw the film when I was a kid and haven't watched it since [will probably watch it just before the show] and all I can remember is Yul Brynner and his creepy look as Gunslinger.

Having enjoyed Battlestar Galactica & Caprica shows, it will be interesting to see the androids play out in this. Can't understand the panning of HBO though, I mean, if it was Syfy, then yeah but HBO?! Be thankful!
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:11
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Useful compilation of pilot reviews by the Independent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7314416.html
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:18
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I am very excited for this show, saw the film when I was a kid and haven't watched it since [will probably watch it just before the show] and all I can remember is Yul Brynner and his creepy look as Gunslinger.

Having enjoyed Battlestar Galactica & Caprica shows, it will be interesting to see the androids play out in this. Can't understand the panning of HBO though, I mean, if it was Syfy, then yeah but HBO?! Be thankful!
Don't forget to re-watch "Futureworld" too for the full story.
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:23
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Don't forget to re-watch "Futureworld" too for the full story.
Also BEYOND WESTWORLD for the even fulller story.
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Old 19-09-2016, 17:39
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Also BEYOND WESTWORLD for the even fulller story.
Wow... a Westworld TV show, what a great idea!

Opps, I see it only ran for five episodes?

Let's hope the new one does a little better than that.
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Old 19-09-2016, 18:27
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Wow... a Westworld TV show, what a great idea!

Opps, I see it only ran for five episodes?

Let's hope the new one does a little better than that.
Not even that, while they had made five episodes they only ever aired three of them.

I'm sure I remember seeing at least one episode of it though so it must have made it across to the UK at some point.

But yes hopefully the new show will do a bit better
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Old 20-09-2016, 01:52
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I am very excited for this show, saw the film when I was a kid and haven't watched it since [will probably watch it just before the show] and all I can remember is Yul Brynner and his creepy look as Gunslinger.

Having enjoyed Battlestar Galactica & Caprica shows, it will be interesting to see the androids play out in this. Can't understand the panning of HBO though, I mean, if it was Syfy, then yeah but HBO?! Be thankful!
Atlantic are in fact screening the 1973 movie with Brynner/Brolin/Benjamin et al tomorrow night at 10:10. Of course, if they were to follow it up with Futureworld before the series begins that would be wonderful, but I doubt they will.
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Old 20-09-2016, 02:14
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Don't forget to re-watch "Futureworld" too for the full story.
Also BEYOND WESTWORLD for the even fulller story.
Given that Michael Crichton had nothing to do with either of those... if people are being purists about a great writer like Jonathan Nolan working on this, then I think they'd be even less happy to count "sequels" written by total hacks.

As I recall, the plot of Futureworld was so silly I think one of the Austin Powers movies recycled it. Or maybe it had already been done by In Like Flint. Okay, probably it was Get Smart. One, or all of those.
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Old 20-09-2016, 21:40
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As someone who absolutely loves the movie, I will give this one a go.

Futureworld was okay, the two lead actors were fine, but unsure why Yul Brunner was in it.

I'd never even heard of Beyond Westworld until about a year ago, and managed to track the dvd down, but I had to get a multiregion player as it was region 1. I liked it well enough.
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