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Westworld UK Pace - No Spoilers
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P.Ramlee
05-10-2016
This show has serious potential and coming from HBO you can be sure there'll be the usual dollop of nudity, cursing and violence. A bit too early to make comparisons with Game Of Thrones I think but it will no doubt gain a strong legion of followers.

Episode One has certainly got me hooked but not sure why we have a US and UK pace threads since wasn't it broadcast on 2nd Oct in both countries?

Virtually a simul-broadcast.
koantemplation
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“This show has serious potential and coming from HBO you can be sure there'll be the usual dollop of nudity, cursing and violence. A bit too early to make comparisons with Game Of Thrones I think but it will no doubt gain a strong legion of followers.

Episode One has certainly got me hooked but not sure why we have a US and UK pace threads since wasn't it broadcast on 2nd Oct in both countries?

Virtually a simul-broadcast.”

WW was broadcast on the 4th in the UK, two days apart.
P.Ramlee
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“WW was broadcast on the 4th in the UK, two days apart.”

Apologies, You are correct. My error.
dearmrman
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gemma_Harding:
“I just know my luck, the episode I miss of the Walking Dead would be the one with the plot development, but I do agree that it is inconsistent and I find the first half of the season are very slow only to really ramp up in the second half.

As I said I am going to give Westworld a shot. It is only the first episode. ”

It is only the first episode, and I agree with you that it was slow.

My only worry with this, is how far it can actually go..to me it seems a one season mini series which would be fine...but cannot seeing it continue as a compelling story after this.
gemma-the-husky
05-10-2016
important question.

has thandie newton's body been revealed yet? (all in the best possible taste, I understand)
P.Ramlee
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“important question.

has thandie newton's body been revealed yet? (all in the best possible taste, I understand)”

I'd be extremely surprised if Ms Newton went topless/naked in this show but these days with the advent of CGI and SFX it would not been difficult to introduce body doubles to create the illusion.
Gemma_Harding
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“It is only the first episode, and I agree with you that it was slow.

My only worry with this, is how far it can actually go..to me it seems a one season mini series which would be fine...but cannot seeing it continue as a compelling story after this.”

Unless each season concentrates on one particular aspect of the theme park Westworld, Romanworld, Meadvilleworld etc...
Virgil Tracy
05-10-2016
it's weird , if this were a remake for cinema it'd be done PG13 style , but on tv its all tits and bums and swearing , it used to be the other way round in the 70s and 80s .

anyway - I quite liked it , very good performances , looks like they've spent a fair bit on it too .

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egghead1
05-10-2016
The fly is creepy ,wonder if its CGI or CGFly lol
koantemplation
05-10-2016
I'm going to watch the 80s series Beyond Westworld, see if that gives any clues as to where this new series might go.

Apparently there are 5 or 6 seasons planned for this version.

http://beyondwestworld.com/2016/10/0...world-planned/
Bob Paisley
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“important question.

has thandie newton's body been revealed yet? (all in the best possible taste, I understand)”

I'm not sure it would be that worth seeing to be honest. She's very pretty but incredibly scrawny.
dearmrman
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gemma_Harding:
“Unless each season concentrates on one particular aspect of the theme park Westworld, Romanworld, Meadvilleworld etc...”

They could do that, but what would the story be if they have done malfunctioning robots and the hidden agenda of the higher powers. I feel it would get boring very quickly if they played it out at a slow pace....then again it has got a Nolan attached, and his brother is a expert on slow paced dull films.
Bob Paisley
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“They could do that, but what would the story be if they have done malfunctioning robots and the hidden agenda of the higher powers. I feel it would get boring very quickly if they played it out at a slow pace....then again it has got a Nolan attached, and his brother is a expert on slow paced dull films.”

This, I think, is the fundamental problem with the whole show. There's really only one possible scenario that ultimately can play out - the robots malfunction and go nuts. Once that happens, the park gets closed down and it's all over. How are they going to string things along for multiple series?
koantemplation
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Bob Paisley:
“This, I think, is the fundamental problem with the whole show. There's really only one possible scenario that ultimately can play out - the robots malfunction and go nuts. Once that happens, the park gets closed down and it's all over. How are they going to string things along for multiple series?”

It will all depend on whether they are going to stick to Westworld being about Westworld or whether they will expand into the world beyond the theme park.
dearmrman
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“It will all depend on whether they are going to stick to Westworld being about Westworld or whether they will expand into the world beyond the theme park.”

Then we are into a show like Caprica/BSG...which it already is starting to feel a little like after one episode.
nathanbrazil
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Bob Paisley:
“There's really only one possible scenario that ultimately can play out - the robots malfunction and go nuts.”

Oh Bob, come on, show some imagination. There are dozens of scenarios.

1) The androids (not robots) develop into sentient AI and make their own creations.

2) There is an uprising where the slaves revolt, and this is suppressed by the corporation. The story is reported in the 'real' world.

3) One or more of the androids covertly breaks out into the 'real' world and begins to work against the masters.

4) We find that an android has become President of the USA.

5) The chief designer is captured, perhaps by his own intention, and decides to work with the androids for their benefit, convinced that he is god and they are new life.

The possibilities, while admittedly not endless, are so much more varied than your single path.
biomorph04
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gemma_Harding:
“I'm not sure where everyone (at least in the press) is saying this is as good as Game of Thrones. I have to say that the pacing was really, really slow and I can watch things at a slow pace if I feel it is going somewhere. There was far too much set up or at least the set up was done in a very "paint by numbers" pace.

Saying that, the last ten minutes really started to pique my interest. I'm going to see how it goes, but right now it isn't a "must see" for me unlike Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead.

(Also, I know that it is based on the 70's film, but I can't help feel as if I have seen something like this before. Just not in a Western Theme park setting)”

Episode one of Westworld was conceptually rich and well thought through.

Walking Dead is a simplistic old-fashioned soapy kind of American drama.
biomorph04
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Bob Paisley:
“This, I think, is the fundamental problem with the whole show. There's really only one possible scenario that ultimately can play out - the robots malfunction and go nuts. Once that happens, the park gets closed down and it's all over. How are they going to string things along for multiple series?”

You and I were not watching the same show.
sodafountain
05-10-2016
How come they haven't found (or noticed missing) the croupier from the bar?

After all, they knew when the androids went wrong, and also knew that the father had whispered something to his daughter, so they are obviously all monitored and tracked, so why not the croupier guy?

Unless I missed something.
biomorph04
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by sodafountain:
“This was explained before it happened, they said they would have a bloody shootout to kill the infected robots, so they could get them off the street for re-programming, without upsetting the customers (by having 200 robots removed from the game).

Then they all stood there around the map, waiting for it to start, so we knew they were robots.”

Some people clearly only half watch a show, while being distracted on their phones, and then they complain that they can't follow the plot.
Sanguinius
05-10-2016
I thought it was excellent, largely in part because the casting is very good. Looking forward to episode 2.
Jenny_Sawyer
05-10-2016
Interesting use of music with the orchestral/classical version of Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones.
Jenny_Sawyer
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Token annoying Brit with a Ricky Gervais feel.”

Do Americans think we swear a lot.......?
Jenny_Sawyer
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by biomorph04:
“Some people clearly only half watch a show, while being distracted on their phones, and then they complain that they can't follow the plot.”

I do not have a smart-phone & it still confused me.
koantemplation
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“Then we are into a show like Caprica/BSG...which it already is starting to feel a little like after one episode.”

Yes but hopefully they'll do it better than the lame VR and religious iconography we got in Caprica.
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