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ED: Are we supposed to feel sorry for Paddy??
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bornfree
18-09-2016
I hope paddy is axed. The actor is past his best. He just seems to be going through the motions. If the character Paddy wants to compete with Pierce for Rhona's affection than he needs to go on a diet and grow up. Personally I cant stand Paddy and never understood what Rhona saw in him.
FromMe2U
18-09-2016
It will be all tidy and neat before they come back...Pearl will do it. However, Rhona was a complete cow to Paddy and although I don't agree with how Paddy has behaved It must be really hard to come back and find your home completely taken over by Physco Pierce and Vanessa (who I loathe) pushing him out of HIS (originally) practice.
Glendarroch
18-09-2016
I always preferred Paddy in his relationship with Chas and Aaron. He comes across as quite wise in some of his dealings with them. The Paddy we see with Rhona and Marlon seems like a very different guy - very passive aggressive and sulky. I honestly think him and,Rhona are better apart.
albiex
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by BootsNo7:
“I worry a bit about Pierce as there is something a bit odd about him and of course, he has obliterated any bit of Paddy in the house.

What was the agreement when he went off to Germany? Nothing seemed to have been thought through and I don't think it was right that Pearl asked for the keys back and similarly not right for Paddy to go into the house uninvited.

It all seems a bit of a mess to me.”

Why? His own house? Part of the deal with Zoe.
BootsNo7
18-09-2016
I am sorry who is Zoe?
molliepops
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by BootsNo7:
“I am sorry who is Zoe?”

The best character ever I still live in hope she will come back one day. Zoe Tate, big house owner along side her brother Chris, lesbian vet started the practice in the village.
LHolmes
18-09-2016
Although Pierce is/may turn out to be a psycho, that still won't vindicate Paddy as he threw his marriage with Rhona away by having it off with Tess.

Actions have consequences. He's behaving like an overgrown child.
Janet Plank
18-09-2016
I like the character of Paddy. He forgave Rhona's Lesbian affair with Vanessa, so she should forgive his affair with Tess and get on with their life and business; if she really cared for Leo, she would do this to give him stability. Paddy should move back in to his house and business and sack Pearl, who he has always treated well; Pearl has forgotten that ti was Rhona who threw her out, not Paddy. Paddy has always treated Aaron like a son, and I am surprised that Aaron is not being more supportive of him.
BootsNo7
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“The best character ever I still live in hope she will come back one day. Zoe Tate, big house owner along side her brother Chris, lesbian vet started the practice in the village.”

Oh thank you, I had fogotten Zoe although I agree that she was good and rather lovely to look at I remember!
LHolmes
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by BootsNo7:
“Oh thank you, I had fogotten Zoe although I agree that she was good and rather lovely to look at I remember!”

Leah Bracknell. Brilliant actress.

I remember when Zoe left it was said to be a 9 month break whilst Leah did some yoga course/training thing. Shame she never returned.

I don't think she would really have a place now.
samcains90
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by FromMe2U:
“It will be all tidy and neat before they come back...Pearl will do it. However, Rhona was a complete cow to Paddy and although I don't agree with how Paddy has behaved It must be really hard to come back and find your home completely taken over by Physco Pierce and Vanessa (who I loathe) pushing him out of HIS (originally) practice.”

While it was Paddy's practice and home originally, he married Rhona and they became a partnership - meaning she owns half - they also then made Vanessa a partner, so they all have equal share.
Nobody is pushing Paddy out save for Rhona - they need to get divorce proceedings underway quickly and get all their assets shared and distributed so they can both move on (preferably with Paddy leaving the village for good)

Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“I like the character of Paddy. He forgave Rhona's Lesbian affair with Vanessa, so she should forgive his affair with Tess and get on with their life and business; if she really cared for Leo, she would do this to give him stability. Paddy should move back in to his house and business and sack Pearl, who he has always treated well; Pearl has forgotten that ti was Rhona who threw her out, not Paddy. Paddy has always treated Aaron like a son, and I am surprised that Aaron is not being more supportive of him.”

Rhona did not have a lesbian affair with Vanessa
She used Vanessa as a way to get drugs, it's a completely different situation altogether - Rhona's behaviour was driven by her need to get more painkillers. I'm sure she only kissed Vanessa the once.
Paddy then went and shagged Chas, while Rhona was away in rehab which she forgave.
It's not tit for tat anyway, that's not how relationships work - Paddy was having an affair with Tess for months and he fell in love with her. Rhona saw it after she died and that's why she was unable to forgive Paddy. Though, to her credit she did actually try to.
LHolmes
18-09-2016
^ Brilliant post Samcains.

Paddy has gone too far and this is a misfire on behalf of the production team if we're supposed to sympathise with him. Vile character.

I'm starting to wish Robert had finished him off when he pulled that grain stunt.
cyrilandshirley
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“^ Brilliant post Samcains.

Paddy has gone too far and this is a misfire on behalf of the production team if we're supposed to sympathise with him. Vile character.

I'm starting to wish Robert had finished him off when he pulled that grain stunt.”

That would have been a brilliant end.

To answer the question, yes I think we're meant to feel sorry for Paddy, but I've no idea why. I don't at all, he brought it all on himself.
samcains90
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“^ Brilliant post Samcains.

Paddy has gone too far and this is a misfire on behalf of the production team if we're supposed to sympathise with him. Vile character.

I'm starting to wish Robert had finished him off when he pulled that grain stunt.”

Well thank you.

As much as I vowed not to fall for the villainisation of specific characters to redeem a certain other, I can't help but really dislike Paddy now. If he had come back with a little humility and did not expect Rhona to run into his arms upon his return he could, perhaps, be forgiven, but not now.

I kind of wish Robert did too, how amazing would the fallout of that have been if nobody found out for a while?! It could have looked like an accident and nobody had been any the wiser - also would have tied into Aaron's abuse story quite well, with him losing his pseudo-father.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
18-09-2016
Just because a character is shown feeling sorry for themselves, it does not mean we as viewers are meant to feel sorry for them. Not everything has to be interpreted so literally. The give away in how they want us to react to him are both in his ott childish behaviour and in how the characters around him are perceiving his actions and reacting to them. Everyone clearly thinks he is being an idiot and are trying to get through to him, telling him to be happy for Rhona. Even those loyal to him and not Rhona like Chas and Aaron.

Whatever the situation with Rhona and Pierce turns into, I expect it will be one from which Rhona has to save herself.
Glendarroch
18-09-2016
A little part but only a very small part feels for Paddy. He's s brought his problems on himself, he thought that going away for a while would help and he's d have a marriage to work on when he came home and now he's s found out how easy he is to replace. That said, he's s got to accept that it's s too late, and the damage is already done - and much of it was done by him.

Yes - he could lose a lot - his home, potentially his job, access to his step- son. So I feel for him, but he needs to accept that he and only he took the risk, accept that and try to minimise the damage.
LHolmes
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“A little part but only a very small part feels for Paddy. He's s brought his problems on himself, he thought that going away for a while would help and he's d have a marriage to work on when he came home and now he's s found out how easy he is to replace. That said, he's s got to accept that it's s too late, and the damage is already done - and much of it was done by him.

Yes - he could lose a lot - his home, potentially his job, access to his step- son. So I feel for him, but he needs to accept that he and only he took the risk, accept that and try to minimise the damage.”

He'd be more likely to retain that if he accepted that Rhona has moved on and stopped behaving like a brat.

Why might he lose his job? Isn't he an equal partner in the practice alongside Vanessa and Rhona?
Glendarroch
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“He'd be more likely to retain that if he accepted that Rhona has moved on and stopped behaving like a brat.

Why might he lose his job? Isn't he an equal partner in the practice alongside Vanessa and Rhona?”

Yes, but will they be able to continue working together? That would be an awful situation for all three. I could see him selling his share. So he won't t be short of cash but he's d still lose something he's d built up.

Absolutely, he has to accept that it's s over. Easier said than done,but he has to do it.
LHolmes
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Yes, but will they be able to continue working together? That would be an awful situation for all three. I could see him selling his share. So he won't t be short of cash but he's d still lose something he's d built up.

Absolutely, he has to accept that it's s over. Easier said than done,but he has to do it.”

Most of the time the vets are out on call so it should be fine. Many exes do get on but Paddy needs to face reality for that to be possible here.

Rhona hasn't said he can't see Leo. She met up with Paddy at the park in a recent episode so that he could catch up with Leo. Paddy manhandling Pearl and trashing the house Rhona and Leo are living in won't help his cause, however.
albiex
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“He'd be more likely to retain that if he accepted that Rhona has moved on and stopped behaving like a brat.

Why might he lose his job? Isn't he an equal partner in the practice alongside Vanessa and Rhona?”

Senior partner.
Rhona will soon see what a gullible idiot she is.
molliepops
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Senior partner.
Rhona will soon see what a gullible idiot she is.”

If he punishes rhona further he will be even more hated, each action harms Leo too, so if he gets the house Leo is homeless, can't see that going down well with viewers at all.
Glendarroch
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Most of the time the vets are out on call so it should be fine. Many exes do get on but Paddy needs to face reality for that to be possible here.

Rhona hasn't said he can't see Leo. She met up with Paddy at the park in a recent episode so that he could catch up with Leo. Paddy manhandling Pearl and trashing the house Rhona and Leo are living in won't help his cause, however.”

I think it would be awful but I couldn't t work with family full stop
Glendarroch
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“If he punishes rhona further he will be even more hated, each action harms Leo too, so if he gets the house Leo is homeless, can't see that going down well with viewers at all.”

Yes definitely. He's s got no reason to fight dirty.
albiex
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“If he punishes rhona further he will be even more hated, each action harms Leo too, so if he gets the house Leo is homeless, can't see that going down well with viewers at all.”

Ultimately it's up to Marlon and Rhona to provide for Leo. Paddy hasn't adopted him.
Paddy is an Emmerdale fixture. Rhona isn't.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“If he punishes rhona further he will be even more hated, each action harms Leo too, so if he gets the house Leo is homeless, can't see that going down well with viewers at all.”

hardly, Pierce is a rich lawyer with a home of his own, they don't need to be living in Smithy and probably should vacate it since it's Paddy's and they have alternative accommodation they can go to, he doesn't.
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