Originally Posted by Andy-B:
“It's a control device.”
“It's a control device.”
What about the creamy silk blouses, do they have any significance apart from making me want to rush to M&S and buy a few?
The Fall - Series 3 on BBC 2.
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What about the creamy silk blouses, do they have any significance apart from making me want to rush to M&S and buy a few?
well this is slow .
I get the impression that the trial will collapse due to some legal error , then Gibson will go after him on her own and they'll have the long confrontation with him revealing his traumas and finally he'll die in her arms as a tear rolls down her face .
I do find it a bit tasteless the way these women are so enamoured of him, I know it happens but it'd be good if one of them would just punch him in the face .
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I get the impression that the trial will collapse due to some legal error , then Gibson will go after him on her own and they'll have the long confrontation with him revealing his traumas and finally he'll die in her arms as a tear rolls down her face .
I do find it a bit tasteless the way these women are so enamoured of him, I know it happens but it'd be good if one of them would just punch him in the face .
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Originally Posted by SepangBlue:
“I've been wondering ..
a) Why Rose and Spector are in the same hospital, let alone the same ICU and
b) Why there isn't an armed guard of, at the very least, two officers in flak jackets with submachine guns (or whatever they use these days). One female police officer, who was so easily distracted when she spotted Katie, just doesn't cut it in this situation.”
“I've been wondering ..
a) Why Rose and Spector are in the same hospital, let alone the same ICU and
b) Why there isn't an armed guard of, at the very least, two officers in flak jackets with submachine guns (or whatever they use these days). One female police officer, who was so easily distracted when she spotted Katie, just doesn't cut it in this situation.”
That really annoyed me however not necessarily from a realism perspective but from Gibson's perspective who is all for the victim supposedly but then is happy lying to and misleading the victim and expects her to jyst keep quiet about being in a bed a few feet away from her attacker. Gibson also irritated me with her reaction to Rose discharging herself. If she is ok to leave then Gibson should have been encouraging her to do so.
I suppose it helped with the drama and suspense of it all but nevertheless was very annoying.
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“I just popped in to see what was being said here after the Daily Mail was reporting that the "Twitterbrigade" were slamming the series. I'm enjoying it and thought the "Primal Fear" when he revealed a limited memory.
I think the DM and Twitter have forgotten how clever this guy really is and I don't trust him one iota.
Which makes me think he's going to get away with it. Especially if his lawyer is as good as the policeman said.”
“I just popped in to see what was being said here after the Daily Mail was reporting that the "Twitterbrigade" were slamming the series. I'm enjoying it and thought the "Primal Fear" when he revealed a limited memory.
I think the DM and Twitter have forgotten how clever this guy really is and I don't trust him one iota.
Which makes me think he's going to get away with it. Especially if his lawyer is as good as the policeman said.”
Yes I think this was a nice set up for the next stage IE the court room and legal battle which is clearly going to be long and drawn out. I'm really enjoying it too. I prefer it to just seeing ever more attacks on young women.
Originally Posted by Andy-B:
“So this hour literally was 24-hours in ICU.
He's faking it - the little grimace to himself as he readied to lie to his daughter.
I guess he understands the law to a meaningful extent because of his job, probably just enough. At one point, with his face covered in tubing, I had a momentary flashback to Hannibal Lector in that grill which was interesting ..”
“So this hour literally was 24-hours in ICU.
He's faking it - the little grimace to himself as he readied to lie to his daughter.
I guess he understands the law to a meaningful extent because of his job, probably just enough. At one point, with his face covered in tubing, I had a momentary flashback to Hannibal Lector in that grill which was interesting ..”
I actually believed him well took it at face value I suppose. I did laugh at the Doctor lecturing Sally Ann about the dangers of visiting and his mental health but then just letting her stroll in with her daughter who was clearly going to be a huge shock to Paul considering her age. Might it not have been an idea to explain some of this to him beforehand
I must say the whole set up poses one massive moral dilemma. Paul is being cared for at such a huge cost and yet has just mercilessly murdered many young women. Assuming he is found guilty then he will just languish in jail for years at a great cost or worse still he could be found not guilty and then kill again. You can't help thinking that if such a situation actually existed wouldn't it be better to just let the perpetrator die.
I know that could never happen and I don't even agree with it myself but still it is so annoying and depressing seeing so much effort and money going in to save a killer like Paul.
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“And here's an interview where she sounds a lot more British.
She doesn't fake it but I believe she has said she just falls into whichever of the two accents those around her are using.
So being interviewed in America she sounds American and being interviewed by Parkinson she sounds British.”
“And here's an interview where she sounds a lot more British.
She doesn't fake it but I believe she has said she just falls into whichever of the two accents those around her are using.
So being interviewed in America she sounds American and being interviewed by Parkinson she sounds British.”
Well she must have a split personality then. But I don't think that for a moment. She's an actress and her accent for some strange reason has become suddenly anglisised since she moved back to the UK. Not possible for that to happen naturally. So I think she's faking it.
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“Well she must have a split personality then. But I don't think that for a moment. She's an actress and her accent for some strange reason has become suddenly anglisised since she moved back to the UK. Not possible for that to happen naturally. So I think she's faking it.”
“Well she must have a split personality then. But I don't think that for a moment. She's an actress and her accent for some strange reason has become suddenly anglisised since she moved back to the UK. Not possible for that to happen naturally. So I think she's faking it.”
It's totally possible.
Someone moves away from where they grew up and loses their accent to one degree or another but when they return to the place they spent their childhood they'll often revert back to how they sounded then.
I too was wondering if he's faking the memory loss but even so he can't get away with it as all the evidence is piled against him. Even the so called hot shot lawyer can't get him off surely
But I am looking forward to how it all turns out although I do hope they aren't going to have the whole series with him laying in a hospital bed!
But I am looking forward to how it all turns out although I do hope they aren't going to have the whole series with him laying in a hospital bed!
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“Well she must have a split personality then. But I don't think that for a moment. She's an actress and her accent for some strange reason has become suddenly anglisised since she moved back to the UK. Not possible for that to happen naturally. So I think she's faking it.”
“Well she must have a split personality then. But I don't think that for a moment. She's an actress and her accent for some strange reason has become suddenly anglisised since she moved back to the UK. Not possible for that to happen naturally. So I think she's faking it.”
she grew up in the UK
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Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“It doesn't explain anything. She married a Brit (I believe) which was why she moved back to the UK. But if you had watched that interview clip of a few years ago her natural accent, affectation, mannerism etc is very much that of an American. There's no denying it, unless you think she's faking it, then why would she do that?.”
“It doesn't explain anything. She married a Brit (I believe) which was why she moved back to the UK. But if you had watched that interview clip of a few years ago her natural accent, affectation, mannerism etc is very much that of an American. There's no denying it, unless you think she's faking it, then why would she do that?.”
Well ... she's an actress!
She was interviewed with Jamie Dornan on BBC Breakfast before the current series of The Fall went out and she came across as a perfect English Rose!
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yes I think this was a nice set up for the next stage IE the court room and legal battle which is clearly going to be long and drawn out. I'm really enjoying it too. I prefer it to just seeing ever more attacks on young women.”
“Yes I think this was a nice set up for the next stage IE the court room and legal battle which is clearly going to be long and drawn out. I'm really enjoying it too. I prefer it to just seeing ever more attacks on young women.”
Fwiw, I doubt this is how things will go.
We're many months away from trial - imo more than a year.
A lot psycho-analysis to start with - him and his motivations, and now this mental blackout; is he even fit to stand trial ... Spector is, of course, a professional in a related field so will be skilled at playing that game.
As far as Stella is concerned, she has the problem of a seemingly fatal attraction, and I'm sure Spector can smell that.
Fwiw, I can't remember if they actually have him bang to rights for murders? They certainly have him for kidnapping now, though the evidence of food in the car (in the lockup) prevents more serious charges.
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“It's totally possible.
Someone moves away from where they grew up and loses their accent to one degree or another but when they return to the place they spent their childhood they'll often revert back to how they sounded then.”
“It's totally possible.
Someone moves away from where they grew up and loses their accent to one degree or another but when they return to the place they spent their childhood they'll often revert back to how they sounded then.”
My brother has lived in Texas for many years and has quite a strong Texas accent. However, when he comes home, within a few days, his Lancashire accent creeps back.
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“It's totally possible.
Someone moves away from where they grew up and loses their accent to one degree or another but when they return to the place they spent their childhood they'll often revert back to how they sounded then.”
“It's totally possible.
Someone moves away from where they grew up and loses their accent to one degree or another but when they return to the place they spent their childhood they'll often revert back to how they sounded then.”
John Barrowman is famous for it.
Gillian Anderson's accent is more British than American but her Stella Gibson voice is different again.
The accent switching thing is something I'm very familiar with and is of course genuine. It's the voice GA chooses to use for The Fall that I cannot cope with. It is so irritating and everyone I know finds it so, why does she choose to talk like that? It adds nothing infact it's a massive distraction.
"I do find it a bit tasteless the way these women are so enamoured of him"
I agree, can't see it myself, he is a ghastly little runt. Colin Morgan, on the other hand, is a totally different kettle of piscatorial delights, S Gibson must need her eyes/sensibilities testing
I agree, can't see it myself, he is a ghastly little runt. Colin Morgan, on the other hand, is a totally different kettle of piscatorial delights, S Gibson must need her eyes/sensibilities testing
Originally Posted by Daisy_Duke:
“The accent switching thing is something I'm very familiar with and is of course genuine. It's the voice GA chooses to use for The Fall that I cannot cope with. It is so irritating and everyone I know finds it so, why does she choose to talk like that? It adds nothing infact it's a massive distraction.”
“The accent switching thing is something I'm very familiar with and is of course genuine. It's the voice GA chooses to use for The Fall that I cannot cope with. It is so irritating and everyone I know finds it so, why does she choose to talk like that? It adds nothing infact it's a massive distraction.”
Really? Personally I find that it adds gravitas to the things she says and makes a nice change from much of the shouty stuff that goes on elsewhere. Stella Gibson is not a verbally demonstrative character, but she's a damn fine detective and a motivational leader of her team.
I always record the show and watch it later, with the sound channelled through the hi-fi and into my headphones. I also have the room suitably darkened to get the full effect of the drama. Stella's voice is no problem at all when heard in this way.
Fwiw, I don't find it a distraction - plenty of working class professionals modulate their accents with greatly varying success. We have no idea of Stella's background.
Originally Posted by MR. Macavity:
“Yes it seemed on odd scene. When she was first shown answering the phone, I was wondering if she had made a fleeting appearance in an earlier series but it seems not?
Is Spector faking? Impossible to tell at the moment - in terms of his age / DOB that means the series is actually set in around 2011 yes??”
“Yes it seemed on odd scene. When she was first shown answering the phone, I was wondering if she had made a fleeting appearance in an earlier series but it seems not?
Is Spector faking? Impossible to tell at the moment - in terms of his age / DOB that means the series is actually set in around 2011 yes??”
I wondered if she was an unknown earlier victim of his? Didn't they find some stuff in the lock-up that pointed to more victims, she may have recognised him?
I agree with a review I read that you forget how good an actor Jamie is - the scene where he was talking to his daughter and really confused about everything was acted brilliantly.
I've just got my new TV mag and for next week's episode details it includes
'..Including the medics who even allow him - somewhat unwisely - to prowl the hospital corridors unfettered'
Is this a crime drama or some fantasy farce?! I wondered why he didn't have an armed guard outside his room last week. The fact he didn't was ridiculous enough, but this! Letting the 'Belfast Strangler' wander round where he pleases?! Stupid.
They've just lost their way on this series. Puts me off watching, really, the more ridiculous stuff I see/read.
Maybe Stella will take him home and look after him, next? Or maybe they'll let Katie be his personal maid?
It's a shame, really. The first series was brilliant. As someone said, maybe they should have left it there. Added another episode to close the thing completely.
'..Including the medics who even allow him - somewhat unwisely - to prowl the hospital corridors unfettered'
Is this a crime drama or some fantasy farce?! I wondered why he didn't have an armed guard outside his room last week. The fact he didn't was ridiculous enough, but this! Letting the 'Belfast Strangler' wander round where he pleases?! Stupid.
They've just lost their way on this series. Puts me off watching, really, the more ridiculous stuff I see/read.
Maybe Stella will take him home and look after him, next? Or maybe they'll let Katie be his personal maid?
It's a shame, really. The first series was brilliant. As someone said, maybe they should have left it there. Added another episode to close the thing completely.
I think he might be faking the memory loss. I thought it was quite odd that he couldn't tell the doctor how old his daughter was but answered everything else with ease. It's like he couldn't quite do the math quickly enough and simply said 'she's small'.
They keep lingering on the ICU nurse so obviously there's something going on there/or will happen there but I don't know that I'd say she's grown attached to him like other posters have suggested. I've seen first hand how attentive ICU nurses are with their patients and they talk to them as if they are awake/aware even when in an unresponsive state. She's clearly his type however and I think we're all wondering if he's going to suddenly jump out of bed and attack while her back is turned!
Does anyone else think a lot of the young women in this program look really similar? I could have sworn the same actress was playing the wife and the young lawyer only with a different hairstyle!
More Tom Anderson I say!
They keep lingering on the ICU nurse so obviously there's something going on there/or will happen there but I don't know that I'd say she's grown attached to him like other posters have suggested. I've seen first hand how attentive ICU nurses are with their patients and they talk to them as if they are awake/aware even when in an unresponsive state. She's clearly his type however and I think we're all wondering if he's going to suddenly jump out of bed and attack while her back is turned!
Does anyone else think a lot of the young women in this program look really similar? I could have sworn the same actress was playing the wife and the young lawyer only with a different hairstyle!
More Tom Anderson I say!
Does the ICU nurse (Aisling Bea) work 24 hours a day. Doesn't seem to be any other nurse looking after him !
Originally Posted by kat180:
“I think he might be faking the memory loss. I thought it was quite odd that he couldn't tell the doctor how old his daughter was but answered everything else with ease. It's like he couldn't quite do the math quickly enough and simply said 'she's small'.
They keep lingering on the ICU nurse so obviously there's something going on there/or will happen there but I don't know that I'd say she's grown attached to him like other posters have suggested. I've seen first hand how attentive ICU nurses are with their patients and they talk to them as if they are awake/aware even when in an unresponsive state. She's clearly his type however and I think we're all wondering if he's going to suddenly jump out of bed and attack while her back is turned!
Does anyone else think a lot of the young women in this program look really similar? I could have sworn the same actress was playing the wife and the young lawyer only with a different hairstyle!
More Tom Anderson I say!”
“I think he might be faking the memory loss. I thought it was quite odd that he couldn't tell the doctor how old his daughter was but answered everything else with ease. It's like he couldn't quite do the math quickly enough and simply said 'she's small'.
They keep lingering on the ICU nurse so obviously there's something going on there/or will happen there but I don't know that I'd say she's grown attached to him like other posters have suggested. I've seen first hand how attentive ICU nurses are with their patients and they talk to them as if they are awake/aware even when in an unresponsive state. She's clearly his type however and I think we're all wondering if he's going to suddenly jump out of bed and attack while her back is turned!
Does anyone else think a lot of the young women in this program look really similar? I could have sworn the same actress was playing the wife and the young lawyer only with a different hairstyle!
More Tom Anderson I say!”
She may help him escape.
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