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Old 12-10-2016, 21:03
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Old 12-10-2016, 21:39
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Does the ICU nurse (Aisling Bea) work 24 hours a day. Doesn't seem to be any other nurse looking after him !
If you applied yourself to the timeline of E2 you wouldn't have to not ask.
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Old 12-10-2016, 23:44
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Thought Ep3 was the best so far this series.
Agree Getting very interesting now The scene just before the end tho
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Old 13-10-2016, 18:08
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The Final 2 episodes will air on Consecutive Days with 5 on 27th October and the Final episode on Friday 28 9pm
Glad they're doing it like that Waiting a day is nowhere as bad as a week to see how it ends
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Old 13-10-2016, 18:37
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I hope they find a way to justify this 3rd series, before moving on series 4, because so far they have not
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:40
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Thought Ep3 was the best so far this series.
eh ? it hasn't aired yet .

has it ?
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:51
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eh ? it hasn't aired yet .

has it ?
In Ireland it has.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:32
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Why is this set in 2012 and not present day?
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:37
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Why is this set in 2012 and not present day?
Well the first series aired in 2013 but was filmed in 2012 so I assume it's that. The whole story so far has happened within the same year.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:44
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Able to stretch his arm above his head whilst alone but can't move them when the nurse is dressing him?
Proof of faking memory loss??
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:46
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Well the first series aired in 2013 but was filmed in 2012 so I assume it's that. The whole story so far has happened within the same year.
I forgot it's been that long since the first series. Thanks.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:47
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His lawyer is the fellow who played barrister Mr Silvester in Garrow's Law.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:54
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His lawyer is the fellow who played barrister Mr Silvester in Garrow's Law.
And Katherine Kellys evil husband in Mr Selfridge.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:55
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His lawyer is the fellow who played barrister Mr Silvester in Garrow's Law.

And I think he was in Mr Selfridge?
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:57
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She's like Magda Goebbels killing her own kids with sleeping pills.
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:03
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Id say that ending implies he is faking it.

So if we are still at May 2012 that means the entire series has only spanned 3 months! yet no one other than Spector seemed to notice his daughters five years older lol
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:07
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I think the legal dilemma posed in this series is fascinating.

Personally I think his amnesia is genuine, I can't see how he'd have been able to devise such an elaborate plan straight out of a coma and not trip himself up within minutes when being questioned. That said he may recover his memory at some point and then be able to cover up that recovery.
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:32
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Nah he is faking it.
There are clues: Most significantly I think that in the stupid "light at the end of the tunnel" sequence in episode 1 Spector's daughter AND son are heard shouting out to him but tonight he lied tothenurse, telling her it was only Olivia who called to him. This may just about justify why that daft scene exists.

Additionally if he only remembered Olivia as a 2 year old, how did he recognise her voice in the tunnel?
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:40
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A mass murderer and no armed guard at the door?

Why take the handcuffs off him when he was being questioned for court.

And why does Gibson not cough to clear her throat

So obvious where this is going.

But poor children and wife
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:26
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Is I see that nurse look at Spector with those big doe eyes again I'm done with this mince. What an insult to viewers' intelligence.
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:57
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A mass murderer and no armed guard at the door?

Why take the handcuffs off him when he was being questioned for court.

And why does Gibson not cough to clear her throat

So obvious where this is going.

But poor children and wife
I know that terrorist murderers and suspects were usually guarded in hospital during the Troubles, so I think there'd be some sort of guard on Spector too as he's an equally dangerous character. Since all police officers in N Ireland are armed, this would be easy enough to do. Another thing I found odd was the solicitor telling Spector what he was accused of; in real life wouldn't this have to be done by the police, maybe with the solicitor present? And wouldn't it be useful to have the psychiatrist or whatever she was there, so she could see his reaction to being told about the horrific crimes he's suddenly found himself accused of (if he's not faking his memory loss)? In spite of these things, I'm enjoying it, probably partly because of it being set in NI, but also because I think it's throwing up some interesting scenarios for those concerned.
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Old 14-10-2016, 00:16
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A mass murderer and no armed guard at the door?

Why take the handcuffs off him when he was being questioned for court.

And why does Gibson not cough to clear her throat

So obvious where this is going.

But poor children and wife
Good question Bella, I think this show drifts away from reality much too easily. A dedicated IC nurse for Spector, as if. With our NHS youd be lucky to get a 1:3 ratio on any IC ward and hes made a very quick recovery on this show.

By now he ought to be back on a ward unless its a security issue and if its a security matter then he ought to have a dedicated police officer watching closely by.

One good thing is Stella and her boss are not buying this BS and want to have the book thrown at psycho Pete.
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Old 14-10-2016, 00:40
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Nah he is faking it.
There are clues: Most significantly I think that in the stupid "light at the end of the tunnel" sequence in episode 1 Spector's daughter AND son are heard shouting out to him but tonight he lied tothenurse, telling her it was only Olivia who called to him. This may just about justify why that daft scene exists.

Additionally if he only remembered Olivia as a 2 year old, how did he recognise her voice in the tunnel?
I definitely think he is faking it too- I wasn't completely sure until he made that facial expression right at the end...

Really enjoying it though and very glad I decided to give it another chance as I really was disappointed with the 2nd series and wasn't going to bother with this one!
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Old 14-10-2016, 02:52
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Nah he is faking it.
There are clues: Most significantly I think that in the stupid "light at the end of the tunnel" sequence in episode 1 Spector's daughter AND son are heard shouting out to him but tonight he lied tothenurse, telling her it was only Olivia who called to him. This may just about justify why that daft scene exists.

Additionally if he only remembered Olivia as a 2 year old, how did he recognise her voice in the tunnel?
I'm glad you brought that up. I just re-watched the tunnel scene and as far as I could tell it was only the daughter who called to him. However I am pretty sure it was the voice of an older child and not a 2 year old.
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Old 14-10-2016, 04:13
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EDIT: I thought there was an armed guard just outside the ICU? It'd make more sense for a guard to be stationed there than actually inside the ICU where medical staff may well be rushing about, and also out of sight of the person you're guarding too.

The third episode delivered exactly what I felt it needed and stepped things up a notch, again playing up to the notion that Series 1 was all about the crimes, Series 2 was all about the capture and Series 3 is all about the conviction. As Stella says in this episode it's vital to get him away from the medics and back into the justice system as soon as possible. The show knows it's been in a hospital for three consecutive episodes. Everything it does it seems to do very knowingly and for a reason. It continues to be a brilliant character study, and an exploration of the system as a whole. Much more than just a show about a detective solving crimes.

The standout scenes in the third episode were the court scene, simply for taking the series in the clear direction it's headed. And the scene with Rose in the interview room - it was good to get someone talking to Stella about Stella for once, even if only briefly. She really is a woman with a specific purpose, again playing up to the idea that she is fixated to the point of obsession with her work (also implied by refusing to go home at the end of the first episode).

A very likely tragic ending for Paul's wife and kids. But then part of this series has been to explore the fallout of everyone around him. Paul says in this episode that he couldn't abandon his daughter, and it reaffirms that his love for her is indeed very real. But robbing him of that is no consolation, because it comes at the cost of her innocent life. Perhaps the predictability of the series' direction, especially given the big questions about life and death this episode, are that he's going to be given literally nothing to live for and then successfully convicted. Forced to live with nothing is the closest to a 'happy ending' or to 'justice' that the show can deliver in real terms. The fact that Stella correctly guesses that Paul's wife has nothing to live for immediately ahead of her suicide/attempt might give her a bit more sway in determining how things play out...especially if cracks begin to show in Paul's lies regarding his alleged amnesia.

All in all, so far the third series would have been interesting enough exploring the characters going through the courts process as it is. I usually find the show interesting enough that you could just have Gillian Anderson monologuing at the screen and it'd likely be good. They've added more of a legal and a moral dilemma with the amnesia though, and it's given ground for yet more exploration of the justice system. Definitely more satisfying than the second series so far, and headed for a resolution that should hopefully have been worth the wait.
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