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Old 17-10-2016, 09:40
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Spector must be faking it. If he killed the girl in 2002 as the young detective suspects then that means he in his 2006 mindset will know full well what has been going on. This must be how they catch him out.

I think at the end of episode one when he woke up at the end and then closed his eyes again was the moment he pretended to be still in the coma so he could put his memory loss plan into action.
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Old 17-10-2016, 12:31
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Enjoyed the first two series, but for me three is pushing it a little.

In my story, Spector died from gunshot wounds. Good ending.
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Old 17-10-2016, 17:43
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Enjoyed the first two series, but for me three is pushing it a little.

In my story, Spector died from gunshot wounds. Good ending.
I assume the fact he looked very unlikely to survive was why they went so indepth with the surgical scenes in episode 1.
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:48
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Spector must be faking it. If he killed the girl in 2002 as the young detective suspects then that means he in his 2006 mindset will know full well what has been going on. This must be how they catch him out.

I think at the end of episode one when he woke up at the end and then closed his eyes again was the moment he pretended to be still in the coma so he could put his memory loss plan into action.
Yeah I think this is it. I just wonder where the nurse he is manipulating will come into it all.
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:56
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How is he manipulating her?
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:07
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Enjoyed the first two series, but for me three is pushing it a little.

In my story, Spector died from gunshot wounds. Good ending.
Then you probably have no ideas on the psychological interaction between Spector and Stella Gibson?
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:10
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How is he manipulating her?
By acting all sweetness and light with those doe eyes and complimenting her and lying about his memory loss. He's almost acting like the victim not the perpetrator.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:10
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Yeah I think this is it. I just wonder where the nurse he is manipulating will come into it all.
: Where has it been shown that he's manipulating her ? She's his nurse , she's acted professionally , got him to open up about things? I don't see any signs of manipulation .
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:12
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By acting all sweetness and light with those doe eyes and complimenting her and lying about his memory loss.
That's not manipulation ! Having been a nurse I can only compliment her on her professional attitude , Nursing patients , , whoever they are calls for a compassionate looking face and a listening ear. So far as she is concerned he's just another patient in the ICU .
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:15
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That's not manipulation ! Having been a nurse I can only compliment her on her professional attitude , Nursing patients , , whoever they are calls for a compassionate looking face .
It is manipulation as he is not revealing his true identity and faking his memory loss. And she is falling for it, pitying him. You being a nurse has nothing to do with it. It's clear to see in the storyline and the look on his face when she left the room. It wouldn't surprise me if she helps him escape.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:27
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It is manipulation as he is not revealing his true identity and faking his memory loss. And she is falling for it, pitying him. You being a nurse has nothing to do with it. It's clear to see in the storyline and the look on his face when she left the room. It wouldn't surprise me if she helps him escape.
It's your opinion that he's faking that she's falling for it,,that she's pitying him We don't all see it that way . Although you might well be correct .
She could well be playing a game of her own ? Just saying . We all have our own thoughts on this ?
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:28
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It's your opinion that he's faking that she's falling for it,,that she's pitying him We don't all see it that way . Although you might well be correct .
She could well be playing a game of her own ? Just saying . We all have our own thoughts on this ?
It looks pretty clear to me. I don't know why she would be playing games with him as she has nothing to gain from game playing. Unless she is an undercover cop and wants to gain his trust so he will reveal who his other victims are.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:31
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It looks pretty clear to me. I don't know why she would be playing games with him as she has nothing to gain from game playing. Unless she is an undercover cop and wants to gain his trust so he will reveal who his other victims are.
Oh well there you are ,you've thought up another scenario ?
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:32
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Oh well there you are ,you've thought up another scenario ?
I've seen too many crime dramas.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:16
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This is suspending belief beyond what is believable. If this was for real then there would be a team of nurses looking after the patient including a physio not just the single nurse. When does she ever sleep or be off duty, who is looking after him in the interim, why don't we see them?

His nurse would not be able to engage him in conversation regarding the case like she did in the third episode as it could prejudice the case - simply would not be allowed.

There was no way that Rose Stagg (victim) and Spector (perpetrator) would ever have been allowed on the same ICU ward either, it just wouldn't happen.

Given his crimes against women it is far more likely he would have been allocated a male nurse. There would also be a heavier police presence placed outside.

I know it's only a drama but you have to have the realism of protocols.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:24
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This is suspending belief beyond what is believable. If this was for real then there would be a team of nurses looking after the patient including a physio not just the single nurse. When does she ever sleep or be off duty, who is looking after him in the interim, why don't we see them?

His nurse would not be able to engage him in conversation regarding the case like she did in the third episode as it could prejudice the case - simply would not be allowed.

There was no way that Rose Stagg (victim) and Spector (perpetrator) would ever have been allowed on the same ICU ward either, it just wouldn't happen.

Given his crimes against women it is far more likely he would have been allocated a male nurse. There would also be a heavier police presence placed outside.

I know it's only a drama but you have to have the realism of protocols.
It's not real though. It's a drama.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:41
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It looks pretty clear to me. I don't know why she would be playing games with him as she has nothing to gain from game playing. Unless she is an undercover cop and wants to gain his trust so he will reveal who his other victims are.
That's an interesting idea. Better than mine which was the nurse was a serial killer seeking out a fellow traveler. But that's because I find it difficult to take this seriously any more.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:45
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That's an interesting idea. Better than mine which was the nurse was a serial killer seeking out a fellow traveler. But that's because I find it difficult to take this seriously any more.
lol I guess you've been watching too many crime dramas like me as well.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:49
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That's not manipulation ! Having been a nurse I can only compliment her on her professional attitude , Nursing patients , , whoever they are calls for a compassionate looking face and a listening ear. So far as she is concerned he's just another patient in the ICU .
But the Nurse crosses the boundaries with Paul !!! in Thurs night episode also I can see the beginning of the end of Stella in court.
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:29
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But the Nurse crosses the boundaries with Paul !!! in Thurs night episode also I can see the beginning of the end of Stella in court.
What boundaries ?
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:54
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I like to think that the nurse is playing him , maybe she's related to one of his victims and she's waiting to take revenge , otherwise it's pretty depressing that yet another woman is just falling for his 'charms' .

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Old 18-10-2016, 18:24
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I like to think that the nurse is playing him , maybe she's related to one of his victims and she's waiting to take revenge , otherwise it's pretty depressing that yet another woman is just falling for his 'charms' .

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You're thinking much the same as me . I thought it first when she was carefully, almost lovingly, washing his body during the bed bath .He washed the body of one of his victims?
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Old 18-10-2016, 18:56
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There was no way that Rose Stagg (victim) and Spector (perpetrator) would ever have been allowed on the same ICU ward either, it just wouldn't happen.

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No they'd probably be in separate hospitals.
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Old 18-10-2016, 19:09
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I've seen too many crime dramas.
You just lack imagination and apply Casualty/Holby storylines.

This is suspending belief beyond what is believable. If this was for real then there would be a team of nurses looking after the patient including a physio not just the single nurse. When does she ever sleep or be off duty, who is looking after him in the interim, why don't we see them?

His nurse would not be able to engage him in conversation regarding the case like she did in the third episode as it could prejudice the case - simply would not be allowed.
She appears to work the 4-midnight shift.

She hasn't engaged with him at any point about the case.

She's deeply religious and she is fascinated by the idea he has had a glimpse of what 'the gates of heaven' might be like - no idea what you're watching!?

It wouldn't be Spector if he didn't try to exploit that, but that's entirely within the character/nature of the serial killer.
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Old 18-10-2016, 19:13
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You just lack imagination and apply Casualty/Holby storylines.

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I don't watch either.
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