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Old 31-10-2016, 13:06
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Without a doubt
People are entitled to their opinion but i get annoyed when i see harsh comments about her performance as Stella Gibson. Gibson is a very ambiguous character. She comes across as emotionless and very cold. You honestly never know what she is feeling. That isn't Gillian being a bad actress. That's Gillian playing the character that Alan Cubitt wrote her to be.
Agree. Numpties don't seem to understand she is 'acting' within the confines of a character.
The same type of numpties 'believe' soap stars are 'real' and have been known to verbally abuse the actors in 'real life' based on their on screen characters and soap storyline.
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Old 31-10-2016, 14:00
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Am I a numpty for feeling irritated by that annoying whisper that she employed throughout? If so, I'm in the very best of company as everyone else I know in real life was irritated by it too, we all wanted to clear her throat for her.

I've always thought her a good actress and enjoyed her in everything else I've seen her in. It was just her voice in this that was annoying.
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Old 31-10-2016, 16:40
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Agree. Numpties don't seem to understand she is 'acting' within the confines of a character.
The same type of numpties 'believe' soap stars are 'real' and have been known to verbally abuse the actors in 'real life' based on their on screen characters and soap storyline.
Absolutely correct. This has been happening since the advent of acting and theatre. There are those who for whatever reason are not able to differentiate between real life and acting. Actors will get stopped in the street and asked where their 'on screen' partner/wife etc. is.

Perhaps you could change 'numpties' to 'intellectually challenged' though I get where you're coming from.
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Old 31-10-2016, 16:43
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Am I a numpty for feeling irritated by that annoying whisper that she employed throughout? If so, I'm in the very best of company as everyone else I know in real life was irritated by it too, we all wanted to clear her throat for her.

I've always thought her a good actress and enjoyed her in everything else I've seen her in. It was just her voice in this that was annoying.
Oh well that must seal it then, if everyone you know in real life was irritated by this. What about those you don't know in real life, what were their views?
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Old 31-10-2016, 16:58
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Am I a numpty for feeling irritated by that annoying whisper that she employed throughout? If so, I'm in the very best of company as everyone else I know in real life was irritated by it too, we all wanted to clear her throat for her.

I've always thought her a good actress and enjoyed her in everything else I've seen her in. It was just her voice in this that was annoying.
Basically agree with you, I couldn't help thinking that she spoke to everyone as if they'd just finished having rampant sex together, it was so annoying, if this how she was supposed to read/act the part, in my opinion, it was totally unnecessary.
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Old 31-10-2016, 17:04
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I couldn't help thinking that she spoke to everyone as if they'd just finished having rampant sex together,
I assume you are speaking from experience?
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Old 31-10-2016, 17:12
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I assume you are speaking from experience?
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Old 31-10-2016, 19:36
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As you say so eloquently, it was his 'merciless stillness and serenity' that made his brutal attacks on the psychiatrist and Stella so shocking. The tension was built up so well by Jamie playing the calm, almost docile dude. You could sense something was going to happen but didn't know exactly when until it hit you between the eyes.
Brilliant acting.
Agree with this, you had the foreboding during the entire dialogue but then just when you thought it was going to lead to nothing, BAM!
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Old 31-10-2016, 19:49
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It's rare i ever go back and watch crime shows. But i feel this is one of those that is worth rewatching to see certain plots and dialogue link up from all three seasons. To see it all unfold in long large sitting.
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Old 31-10-2016, 20:25
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Absolutely correct. This has been happening since the advent of acting and theatre. There are those who for whatever reason are not able to differentiate between real life and acting. Actors will get stopped in the street and asked where their 'on screen' partner/wife etc. is.

Perhaps you could change 'numpties' to 'intellectually challenged' though I get where you're coming from.
Yes, 'intellectually challenged' is probably more flattering as 'numptie' suggests an element of stupidity.
I realise that nobody would be stupid enough to watch all six episodes in Series 3 if they had decided from the very beginning that they did not like Gillian Anderson's acting, Stella's mannerisms and the way she spoke.
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:00
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Oh, gosh, so I'm intellectually challenged too, all because I decided to gird my loins and carry on watching because I was hooked by the story. Ah well, I can live with that
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:18
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The scenes were clearly there to show the Jekyll and Hyde side to Spector and leave viewers wondering if he really was the monster he portrayed in previous series or just a victim of circumstance. People believed he had amnesia. His manipulative behaviour with the nurse and others showed how he got away with it for so long.

Those scenes were crucial to the build up to last nights attacks as it took everyone by surprise when he suddenly flipped as he had been pretty passive and acting like a doe eyed choirboy up til then toying with everyones emotions for his own sick sadistic pleasure.
I think it was clear: he flipped and lost his cool when he knew he had been rumbled. He would have been taken to court for the murder/death in London he couldn't deny and he knew he'd been had. He was a bad loser.
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:19
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It was truly chilling. And JD seems much a nice, mild-mannered chap in real life too.
That's why good actors are great actors. The try to find something in themselves and bring it out. And they always say playing baddies is much better fun.
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:21
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Me three.

The power of Jamie's performance was that he had the merciless stillness and serenity of a wild predatory animal - and his superb physical condition made him totally convincing in his shockingly quick and brutal outbursts of violence.

What a cracking finale - I am watching it again shortly tonight.

So poor old Wallander is going to get the living shit kicked out of him... twice!
Me five...that finale was superbly done. It is definitely worth watching a second time, the first time I was too shocked by that sudden raw outburst of violence - it was only while watching it again that I realised the extent of Stella's verbal demolition work, she utterly destroys him in the space of no more than 3 minutes. It is only then that you fully understand how much he repulses her, and boy he certainly doesn't expect/like being called an attention seeking little boy.

It wasn't perfect and some things did grate - for me Stella's hair became far too distracting after a while. How can you run around in such a bleak, gritty drama with Dynasty hair that never moves a millimetre out of place

The lack of security in the psychiatric unit (Spector had just violently attacked 2 police officers!) - sorry, I didn't buy that either.

Minor stuff though, overall I found this final series a fascinating insight into "The aftermath", it's what we usually never get to see. And presumably far too boring for viewers who prefer action packed scenes every five minutes
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:59
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Because sometimes I like the concept/premise but the execution is so poor that I realise I don't want to commit to watching the whole thing. I get nosey and want to find out what happens in the end. I surely can't be the only one who does that! So much TV, not enough time....
I'm the opposite. If it's so poorly executed that I can't be bothered to watch it, I don't really care what happens in the end. It's all about the journey, not the destination

What kept me hooked was the on screen presence of the two main protagonists.
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Old 31-10-2016, 22:00
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Am I a numpty for feeling irritated by that annoying whisper that she employed throughout? If so, I'm in the very best of company as everyone else I know in real life was irritated by it too, we all wanted to clear her throat for her.

I've always thought her a good actress and enjoyed her in everything else I've seen her in. It was just her voice in this that was annoying.
I agree - I can't stand her whispering but I noticed when she used a little bit of force her voice was cracked. I think she may have some serious vocal problems. I was trained as a voice coach for actors mainly but we were taught about some physical problems (among them the sound of cancer of the larynx) and how to spot the symtoms. I think she may have quite a problem with her vocal folds (cords) so it's made me wary of being too critical!
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Old 31-10-2016, 23:30
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Some people complain about this series because they say "nothing happened" - what do they mean by that ? This was about the police working to get a evidence for a conviction and deal with his amnesia claims. Would these bored people have preferred him to escape and kill more victims or perhaps go on a killing spree round the hospital ?
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Old 31-10-2016, 23:35
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An utterly brilliant and mesmerizing series and excellent final episode. The interplay between Anderson and Dornan's character's was wonderfully realised and the final right hook from Gibson as she whispers that all Spector really wants is attention when little demands our undivided attention more than a quietly spoken voice was genius.

I really hope for more of The Fall and Anderson and Dornan need to be picking up some awards in the coming year for this.
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Old 31-10-2016, 23:50
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Some people complain about this series because they say "nothing happened" - what do they mean by that ? This was about the police working to get a evidence for a conviction and deal with his amnesia claims. Would these bored people have preferred him to escape and kill more victims or perhaps go on a killing spree round the hospital ?
Erm...yeah.
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Old 01-11-2016, 00:03
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I'm the opposite. If it's so poorly executed that I can't be bothered to watch it, I don't really care what happens in the end. It's all about the journey, not the destination

What kept me hooked was the on screen presence of the two main protagonists.
A number of shows are "journey not destination" for me so I get that. This one I just wanted to know the ending so I probably should have skipped eps 2 to 5 after Casualty Goes to Belfast in Episode 1. You live and learn
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Old 01-11-2016, 00:30
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Did anybody else not miss the character of Belfast from the last series? Yes the accents were still there and the location shots, but that vibrant character and backdrop which made the programme special was absent.
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Old 01-11-2016, 00:40
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Well it had me on the edge of my seat all the way through and I loved Gillian Andersons portrayal of Stella Gibson. Brilliant acting from everyone.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:05
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An utterly brilliant and mesmerizing series and excellent final episode. The interplay between Anderson and Dornan's character's was wonderfully realised and the final right hook from Gibson as she whispers that all Spector really wants is attention when little demands our undivided attention more than a quietly spoken voice was genius.

I really hope for more of The Fall and Anderson and Dornan need to be picking up some awards in the coming year for this.
Happy Valley, Line of Duty, Peaky Blinders, Ripper Street (thinking of Jerome Flynn) and The Fall - the BBC will have so many contenders for best actor or actress from that little lot.

Tough, tough competition.

Anderson and Dornan are both superb actors and I really hope that Jamie gets some far better roles in the future than that 50 Shades of Tosh cobblers.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:38
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Some people complain about this series because they say "nothing happened" - what do they mean by that ? This was about the police working to get a evidence for a conviction and deal with his amnesia claims. Would these bored people have preferred him to escape and kill more victims or perhaps go on a killing spree round the hospital ?
Well thats kinda what he did in EP 6
I enjoyed S 1-2 but S3 for me was all filler until that last episode.
I remember in one episode in S3 there was 4 different views of cars arriving at the court for the interview with Spector, i mean come on,S3 was just dragged out till that final episode.A few of the EPs i thought i was watching Casualty.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:33
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I think what has become clear reading the many posts in this thread is that this final series was cerebral rather than slash crash bang and wallop.

For those of us who appreciate the wonderful depths of the cerebral, which explores the psyche of the human condition this was a feast.

For those viewers for whom cerebral is something they're just not capable of understanding then sadly it is their loss.
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