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Or there again perhaps some people simply could follow the plot lines and appreciated the complex and insightful writing?
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To quote Catherine Tate.."wadda load of old shit".
Cerebral ? There's more "exploration of the human psyche" in an eplsode of Peppa Pig than the entire third series of this twaddle. It would have been OK as a simple serial killer thriller, but let's not make it out to be something it wasn't. It's like saying "Silence of The Lambs" was some kind of study of the human condition. ![]() I thought season 3 was wonderful and the finale in particular was superb. Dornan and Anderson were outstanding |
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Wow. I watched the last 2 episodes today and I thought it was outstanding. I had no idea how it could end and when it did I thought that was the only way it could have ended.
For the whole time I've been watching Spector I've felt - I dunno - sympathy maybe. I've always thought there's a good side to him, he's a good Dad, he's a counselor, he volunteered on a help line. Then this series we found out his back story. I couldn't help for feel sorry for the 8 year old boy who lost his Mum, for the 13 year old boy who'd been abused. Then in the final episode Gibson was goading him and just as I was thinking "back off" I could see Spector turning. Something about their relationship was just electric. He became terrifying just by looking at her. (Awards needed just for his acting without words) Then he flipped and it was unbelievable shocking. I'm glad he killed himself in the end. He'd have owned whatever prison he went to. I really hope we see Gibson again. I disagree with an earlier comment that it would have to be in Belfast. ACC Burns has resigned so no need for her to go to Belfast again. But I'd really like to find out more about her. |
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Just caught up with this. Jamie Dornan was outstanding, his eyes alone, left no need for words, when he was raging. I do agree with others, I did have sympathy for him, and his dreadful childhood and teenage years.
What I was wondering was when he was hanging himself on the back of the door, he seemed to be pulling at the bag, was that just a natural reaction to that type of death, or did he not intend to kill himself? Any thoughts? |
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Just caught up with this. Jamie Dornan was outstanding, his eyes alone, left no need for words, when he was raging. I do agree with others, I did have sympathy for him, and his dreadful childhood and teenage years.
What I was wondering was when he was hanging himself on the back of the door, he seemed to be pulling at the bag, was that just a natural reaction to that type of death, or did he not intend to kill himself? Any thoughts? |
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I would think it a natural reaction .Of course he intended to kill himself , he employed two methods?
Thanks for the sarcasm though |
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It could have been something sexual, as he was obviously not just a vanilla sex kind of guy.
Thanks for the sarcasm though ![]() I agree with you that there would have been a sexual element iincluded in his choice . |
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No sarcasm intended
![]() I agree with you that there would have been a sexual element iincluded in his choice . ![]() Would you have preferred a different ending? |
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Spector killed himself the same way his mother did, and reaching or tugging at the bag was a natural reaction. If he got some autoerotic thrill too...who knows. But it was definitely a suicide.
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Spector killed himself the same way his mother did, and reaching or tugging at the bag was a natural reaction. If he got some autoerotic thrill too...who knows. But it was definitely a suicide.
Were you happy with that ending, or did you feel it was a cop-out? |
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Sorry.
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Latecomer to the debate after just catching up with it all last night - I have to say that I was SO disappointed with this series after the first 2.
Too slow, the first episode in particular was like an episode of Casualty in slow motion. Gibson's breathy stilted voice really started to pee me off in this series and Dornan's limited abilty shone through in the almost complete lack of any words to say for 6 episodes. He did do the facial expressions pretty well and the sudden attack on Gibson was probably the highlight for me - just a shame that he didn't kill her and we then would not be able to see her character return at any point..... At least we are spared Dornan coming back to life, I hope! The dialogue between Gibson and Katie went on far too long to what end? Yes, we got to hear about Gibson's own demons but I seriously did not care by then I was so irritated by her. This could easily have been a 4 episode series and that would have been too long for me. If there is ever a new Fall - with Gibson,. perhaps in another city, count me out Finally, as a general and psychiatric nurse - the holes were startlingly obvious. He stayed in ICU when off the ventilator? No chance. His nurse there having a psychology degree with all her questions, in all, a complete lack of attention to what it would have been like in reality. In the secure hospital, there would be no loose or cornered furniture in any room, no ligature points and certainly he would not have been allowed a pen/pencil at any time - it's a lethal weapon in places like that. I am all for dramatic licence but this was so far removed from reality I just laughed at it. |
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No .Would you ?
By the same token he suffered alot in his earlier years, so you couldn't help but sympathise with him. It didn't help that he was so charming and good looking also. Nevertheless he was sadistic and extremely violent so he should really have been jailed, then he could have been in S4 if there is one, and they could tie up the loose ends with the other characters. Perhaps then he could have hanged himself when he had served some time maybe? |
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Thank you for your reply.
Were you happy with that ending, or did you feel it was a cop-out? |
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Oh, and by the way, as counsellors go, Paul Spector was crap.
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Oh, and by the way, as counsellors go, Paul Spector was crap.
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LOL in what way?
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Did you know there's a French remake in the works? A ten-episode version called "Dans l'ombre du tueur," or "In The Shadow of the Killer."
Literally cannot wait...!!! |
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To quote Catherine Tate.."wadda load of old shit".
Cerebral ? There's more "exploration of the human psyche" in an eplsode of Peppa Pig than the entire third series of this twaddle. It would have been OK as a simple serial killer thriller, but let's not make it out to be something it wasn't. It's like saying "Silence of The Lambs" was some kind of study of the human condition. |
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So just googled "The fall fanfiction."
All porn. |
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Oh, and if a real-life serial killer starts strangling women in Belfast he'll need a new, original nickname because "the Belfast Strangler" is now taken. How about "the murdering twat?"
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One sees the same attitude in much other drama when the writer has failed to tie up key plotlines either out of carelessness/laziness or because they think it is clever to fail to do so. There is always a section of the audience who claim it was brilliantly artistic and that those who don't understand lack intelligence when in reality the emperor has no clothes.
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His body language was all wrong whilst talking to Liz Tyler. And his questions were crap too - no eye contact, you name it.
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Oh, and by the way, as counsellors go, Paul Spector was crap.
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He did get Liz Tyler away from her abusive husband.
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