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Android 7 "Nougat" now available but still haven't received "Marshmellow" update.
Markjuk
17-09-2016
The craziness of the Android upgrade roll-out has just gotten a little bit more crazy.

Android 6 was released 11 months ago and many people have still not had their eligible phones upgraded to Android 6.0.1. I have a Samsung S5 and understand that a large number of users of this phone, in other countries have received an upgrade to Android Marshmellow. However I am with EE and have still not received this update.

Android 7 "nougat" is now available and makes the situation both somewhat ridiculous and a farce.

Why on earth has it taken so long?

Android is a good OS, however the very slow roll out of updates are a major let down in my opinion.
Rossby41
17-09-2016
I think the biggest problem with android updates is the roms/custom UI's themselves. The phone makers (and even the networks at times) put so much effort into adding their own touches, that they then have restart from scratch every time a new version of android comes out.
Markjuk
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Rossby41:
“I think the biggest problem with android updates is the roms/custom UI's themselves. The phone makers (and even the networks at times) put so much effort into adding their own touches, that they then have restart from scratch every time a new version of android comes out.”

Very tempted in future to unlock ("root") my phone and install a vanilla version of the latest Android - no bloatware and no unnecessary network guff. However I understand you can't unlock ("root") your phone until you are out of contract, as technically the phone does not belong to you until the 18/24 months is up.
Stuart_h
17-09-2016
To be fair its not an android problem its a Samsung one. There are lots of phones out there that happen to run android. You want all the up to date OS versions you go with Nexus/Pixel. You want high end ? There options for that. You want budget ? Other options. If having the latest OS is important to you then that should factor into your choice of handset.

On the plus side more and more of androids features are now in apps rather than OS which is why OS updates are less exciting. If you want the latest versions of Gmail, maps, photo, calendar, chrome, dialler, contacts, play services etc etc then you don't need and OS update, just an app download
Brian The Dog
17-09-2016
Well Three must have Marshmallow as I have just brought a Samsung S5 and Flashed a Three Marshmallow ROM on it. Working perfectly and thinks I brought it from Three.
CheshireBumpkin
17-09-2016
Assuming the OP is on EE, I think it will be them holding up the MM update on the phone.

MM has been made available globally by Samsung for the S5 - it's now up to the carriers to add their bloat and crap before pushing it out to users of network issued phones. Most carriers have.

As ever, EE are very, very slow with this. It took them significantly longer than other carriers to release it for the S6 for example.
Everything Goes
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“To be fair its not an android problem its a Samsung one. There are lots of phones out there that happen to run android. You want all the up to date OS versions you go with Nexus/Pixel. You want high end ? There options for that. You want budget ? Other options. If having the latest OS is important to you then that should factor into your choice of handset.

On the plus side more and more of androids features are now in apps rather than OS which is why OS updates are less exciting. If you want the latest versions of Gmail, maps, photo, calendar, chrome, dialler, contacts, play services etc etc then you don't need and OS update, just an app download ”

Google have shafted Nexus 5 and 7 (2013) owners by reducing the amount of OS updates. Instead of 3 years of updates they only got 2 years worth. Owners were expecting to get Nougat were bitterly disappointed. Nexus devices should get security updates on time but otherwise if you want proper updates Apple is the way to go im afraid.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

The Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) had Marshmallow released on EE on the 30th June 2016. Its possible that the OP has a different version of the phone?

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/d.../SM-G900F/EVR/
sammy_boy
17-09-2016
Is it an S5 you've got or an S5 Neo? Think the Neo is a bit slower at getting updates for some reason. Should say in the 'about' section of the settings menu.
errea
17-09-2016
Who does it below to then? The tooth fairy?

Originally Posted by Markjuk:
“. However I understand you can't unlock ("root") your phone until you are out of contract, as technically the phone does not belong to you until the 18/24 months is up.”

Gigabit
18-09-2016
At least on Vodafone contracts, you own the phone after making 6 clear payments.
CheshireBumpkin
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by errea:
“Who does it below to then? The tooth fairy?”

In theory, if it's a network supplied device on a contract, it belongs to the network provider until a certain point in the contract. I thought it was at the six month point, but could well be wrong.

Edit - Giga seems to have confirmed the 6 month thing...
prking
18-09-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“In theory, if it's a network supplied device on a contract, it belongs to the network provider until a certain point in the contract. I thought it was at the six month point, but could well be wrong.

Edit - Giga seems to have confirmed the 6 month thing...”

My EE contact also says it belongs to EE for the first six months.
errea
20-09-2016
The phone is yours from day 1 - such a contract term is unlikely to be enforceable.

Originally Posted by prking:
“My EE contact also says it belongs to EE for the first six months.”

david16
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by errea:
“The phone is yours from day 1 - such a contract term is unlikely to be enforceable.”

You can't unlock and/or sell an EE contract phone soon into the contract with the sole intention of profiting on it and them losing out on it.

What happens if your contract included warranty i.e. for repairs, and you unlock it only to drop the phone and damage it and send it in for repairs, they may refuse to repair it or they may do it but charge you a lot for the repair because unlocking the phone voids the warranty and you have not met the terms and conditions of the contract.
CheshireBumpkin
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by errea:
“The phone is yours from day 1 - such a contract term is unlikely to be enforceable.”

On what basis?
finbaar
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Google have shafted Nexus 5 and 7 (2013) owners by reducing the amount of OS updates. Instead of 3 years of updates they only got 2 years worth. Owners were expecting to get Nougat were bitterly disappointed. Nexus devices should get security updates on time but otherwise if you want proper updates Apple is the way to go im afraid.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

The Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) had Marshmallow released on EE on the 30th June 2016. Its possible that the OP has a different version of the phone?

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/d.../SM-G900F/EVR/”

You know nothing.
Everything Goes
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“You know nothing.”

Constructive post as usual
natbike
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Markjuk:
“However I understand you can't unlock ("root") your phone until you are out of contract, as technically the phone does not belong to you until the 18/24 months is up.”

In the UK you own the device immediately and the contract with the provider is separate. Providers are sometimes willing to lapse your contractual commitment in exchange for your handset and an agreed amount. They don't have to and can easily persue you in court instead if they choose.

I'm not aware of any providers that lease to retail/consumers now.
jchamier
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by natbike:
“In the UK you own the device immediately and the contract with the provider is separate.”

EE's contract (that people have to sign to buy a phone over 24months) says:

"You will only own this Equipment at the end of the first six months of the Minimum Term"

So if EE are not transferring title to the goods until 6 months are up, then how can the individual "own the device immediately"?

I'm sure EE (BT's) lawyers will have checked this.

Personally its one reason why I won't take a 24m contract but I go SIM only.
natbike
26-09-2016
Ouch. I hadn't seen that contract. I stand corrected.
jchamier
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by natbike:
“Ouch. I hadn't seen that contract. I stand corrected.”

Its fairly new I think (as the prices of the phones has risen). Gigabit confirmed Vodafone is pretty similar.
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