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Old 18-09-2016, 14:37
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As the titles says and the opposite of Cool_mate's changing characters thread

So which long term characters have had no development in respect of their personalities and how they behave

I'll kick things off with Charity Dingle.. 16 years of rinse and repeat

Tracey Barlow...
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Old 18-09-2016, 14:45
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Tracy Barlow X1000
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Old 18-09-2016, 15:04
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Mercedes Mc Queen at a push. They finally have tried to develop her character, however her first 8 or 9 years was just same old same old with her slagging around and being nasty to everyone with no comeuppance
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Old 18-09-2016, 16:14
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Mercedes Mc Queen at a push. They finally have tried to develop her character, however her first 8 or 9 years was just same old same old with her slagging around and being nasty to everyone with no comeuppance
That's true actually, they did try a few times but she always reverted to type, we will have to see how she goes with Joe. I do like them as a pair and her being motherly
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Old 18-09-2016, 16:47
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That's true actually, they did try a few times but she always reverted to type, we will have to see how she goes with Joe. I do like them as a pair and her being motherly
I've found her a lot more tolerable of late, but then I remember everything she's done and I hate her again
I think if she had been punished for stabbing herself and framing Mitzeee I would be OK with the character.
They should have done what Emmerdale did with Charity and had her sent to prison for a year, do her time and come back later more refreshed. That trial was Hollyoaks' lowest point imo
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Old 18-09-2016, 16:54
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Mercedes - I am surprised with all the sleeping around she hasn't got AIDS! That vagina must be like Chernoybl now!

I agree about Tracey Barlow. Liz is another one - just a slapper.
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Old 18-09-2016, 16:55
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Mercedes Mc Queen at a push. They finally have tried to develop her character, however her first 8 or 9 years was just same old same old with her slagging around and being nasty to everyone with no comeuppance
I think in some ways she is still same old Mercedes but she does seem to genuinely love Joe and want to be with him at least. Doubt it will last though
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:05
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Ah shit the long term bit is really hard for me I'm quite a new viewer, I only started watching regularly in 2012!

Um....

Chesney

I do like him but in all the time I've been watching I've never seen him do much and I've never known him have a really big storyline of his own. He's just boring, there's no life in him he has basically no personality whatsoever

And Sean

Again I like him but he doesn't really do much. A bit OT but I don't get the Sean hate on here, he is harmless and not nearly as bad as ppl make out! The Sean hate is ridiculous! Some of the Sean abuse comments I've seen are mental! Ok yeah Antony Cotton I can understand as he seems like a prick but What is wrong with the character Sean?

I can't think of no more atm!
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:12
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Characters not changing is much more believable than personality transplants.
People in real life don't tend to change their ways, even if they know they're wrong.

It gets on my wick when characters are brought in to a soap as chavy, morally unsound thickos ( Kerry ED, Dan ED, Gemma CS, The Windass family CS, Leanne CS, Kylie CS ) and then get changed within a few years into well dressed, middle class, reasonably intelligent fountains of wisdom in the community, saying and doing things they would never have in the beginning.
There are people like that ( I mean like they were when they first appeared ) in real life. Why should they not be represented in soaps?
And if the producers / writers don't want that type in their soap why introduce them as such in the first place?
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:31
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Charity... even stints in prison away from her kids hasn't changed her.
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:59
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Ah shit the long term bit is really hard for me I'm quite a new viewer, I only started watching regularly in 2012!

Um....

Chesney

I do like him but in all the time I've been watching I've never seen him do much and I've never known him have a really big storyline of his own. He's just boring, there's no life in him he has basically no personality whatsoever

And Sean

Again I like him but he doesn't really do much. A bit OT but I don't get the Sean hate on here, he is harmless and not nearly as bad as ppl make out! The Sean hate is ridiculous! Some of the Sean abuse comments I've seen are mental! Ok yeah Antony Cotton I can understand as he seems like a prick but What is wrong with the character Sean?

I can't think of no more atm!
Sean has had no development because Anthony Cotton cannot act. He should have been axed a long time ago. I wonder if Sean O'Connor was at Corrie instead of EastEnders would Cotton have survived- O'Connor would have axed Cotton without a shadow of a doubt. It seems Kate Oates has obviously being told she can't axe the likes of Cotton by people above her!
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Old 18-09-2016, 18:03
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Ah shit the long term bit is really hard for me I'm quite a new viewer, I only started watching regularly in 2012!

Um....

Chesney

I do like him but in all the time I've been watching I've never seen him do much and I've never known him have a really big storyline of his own. He's just boring, there's no life in him he has basically no personality whatsoever

And Sean

Again I like him but he doesn't really do much. A bit OT but I don't get the Sean hate on here, he is harmless and not nearly as bad as ppl make out! The Sean hate is ridiculous! Some of the Sean abuse comments I've seen are mental! Ok yeah Antony Cotton I can understand as he seems like a prick but What is wrong with the character Sean?

I can't think of no more atm!
Kirk, still the same character he was 15 years ago!
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Old 18-09-2016, 18:14
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Mercedes McQueen and this isn't just the fault of Bryan Kirkwood. Even before he returned to HO, none of the other EPs from my memory even tried to move her away from being the village bike who does terrible things but still ends up on top.

I'm not sure if Maxine Minniver counts as she hasn't even been on HO for 4 years and she started off so feisty. But this never ending victim character has not died down one bit since it started and even with her not being charged for Patrick's murder, they'll probably find a way for Warren to keep tormenting her. Lost sympathy for her ages ago.
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Old 18-09-2016, 18:25
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Sean has had no development because Anthony Cotton cannot act. He should have been axed a long time ago. I wonder if Sean O'Connor was at Corrie instead of EastEnders would Cotton have survived- O'Connor would have axed Cotton without a shadow of a doubt. It seems Kate Oates has obviously being told she can't axe the likes of Cotton by people above her!
You didn't bother reading the pinned post then Vas. You forgot to add in your opinion.

Sean has had times where he has had development like his son etc but they never keep it up.

I wouldn't add him to this category because he has been getting development for months, it's just subtle

Antony Cotton can act in my opinion and it's childish and vile to suggest Kate Oakes has been told not to axe him.

My god can you imagine if I dared say such a thing about your beloved cora
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Old 18-09-2016, 21:37
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Kirk, still the same character he was 15 years ago!
And many of us love him for it!!
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Old 18-09-2016, 21:38
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Great thread idea.

Most of Corrie's current cast.
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Old 18-09-2016, 22:02
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Characters not changing is much more believable than personality transplants.
People in real life don't tend to change their ways, even if they know they're wrong.

It gets on my wick when characters are brought in to a soap as chavy, morally unsound thickos ( Kerry ED, Dan ED, Gemma CS, The Windass family CS, Leanne CS, Kylie CS ) and then get changed within a few years into well dressed, middle class, reasonably intelligent fountains of wisdom in the community, saying and doing things they would never have in the beginning.
There are people like that ( I mean like they were when they first appeared ) in real life. Why should they not be represented in soaps?
And if the producers / writers don't want that type in their soap why introduce them as such in the first place?
I see what you are saying here & in some cases I would agree, but circumstances can
alter cases (to quote Terry Hall) & meeting a certain character can inspire a person as was portrayed with Gary & Gail's Dad Ted!! That meeting of very different minds made Gary evaluate his life, join the army (albeit briefly) & get a different perspective on life!! I actually love Gary as a character & find him very underrated & underused because the thug is still there bubbling under the surface & still comes out & lands him im trouble but his character development means he now wants to fight it, if you see what I'm getting at, making him a complex & fascinsting character imo!!
Kylie is another of those similar characters who was developed realistically & well by placing her with a character who was equally lacking in direction but together they developed an 'us against the world' mentality & worked together spectacularly well because at any time either could revert to type yet they always managed to muddle through & thought the world of each other!!

If you don't get some character development you end up with a Tracy Barlow who is just one dimensional year after year & completely tedious!!
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