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Old 19-09-2016, 17:35
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My son wants to watch football that he streams to his iPhone onto his TV. If I buy an Apple TV box can I use airplay mirroring. Does it mirror everything that is on his phone to the TV ? Would this be the ideal solution ? Thanks.
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Old 19-09-2016, 17:45
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My son wants to watch football that he streams to his iPhone onto his TV. If I buy an Apple TV box can I use airplay mirroring. Does it mirror everything that is on his phone to the TV ? Would this be the ideal solution ? Thanks.
It certainly works for iPlayer, ITV hub etc.
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Old 20-09-2016, 09:16
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Quick note.

While technically the answer is yes, mirroring has two issues for video.

1) Video quality is greatly reduced during mirroring. In many cases to a point where video is unwatchable. This will be worse in sports due to the fast movement.

2) Some apps block mirroring as they don't have licenses for this.

Mirroring is not really made for video. I guess the original idea was for presentations with a little bit of video, but certainly not proper TV watching.

How does your son stream the video to his phone (i.e. which app does he use), as we may be able to find a better solution there.

For instance, if he uses Now TV. Then he could equally use the Now TV app on an Apple TV or much cheaper Now TV box.
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Old 20-09-2016, 10:35
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but certainly not proper TV watching.
Oh I dunno, I used to use AirPlay Mirroring all the time for watching The Flash and Arrow via The CW app on my phone. Always looked pretty decent quality to me and that was being streamed from the US.
For the most part it can all depend on what your internet speed is and if your WiFi is ok.
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Old 20-09-2016, 13:50
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Oh I dunno, I used to use AirPlay Mirroring all the time for watching The Flash and Arrow via The CW app on my phone. Always looked pretty decent quality to me and that was being streamed from the US.
For the most part it can all depend on what your internet speed is and if your WiFi is ok.
Actually, you have a point. I didn't want to bring it up as it is one of those things that is really a hit and miss...

Some broadcasters use a hack with the mirroring that performs a full-screen stream that is acceptable. ITV Hub also do this. But they are such a small number. I have also always wondered why they done it this way instead of using proper native airplay like the iPlayer does, which allows for full HD streaming.
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Old 20-09-2016, 15:21
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I have also always wondered why they done it this way instead of using proper native airplay like the iPlayer does, which allows for full HD streaming.
All down to licencsing I'd imagine.
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Old 20-09-2016, 20:03
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Quick note.

While technically the answer is yes, mirroring has two issues for video.

1) Video quality is greatly reduced during mirroring. In many cases to a point where video is unwatchable. This will be worse in sports due to the fast movement.

2) Some apps block mirroring as they don't have licenses for this.

Mirroring is not really made for video. I guess the original idea was for presentations with a little bit of video, but certainly not proper TV watching.

How does your son stream the video to his phone (i.e. which app does he use), as we may be able to find a better solution there.


For instance, if he uses Now TV. Then he could equally use the Now TV app on an Apple TV or much cheaper Now TV box.
He watches it on something called 'Total Sport EK' if that means anything to anyone.
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Old 20-09-2016, 20:15
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Hubby has done it all except the iPhone part.
We used Apple TV, iPad, which worked so- so with lagging and losing the signal, then changed to Amazon Fire Stick which is worse even with fiber...last Sunday's F1 race he used the iMac and mirrored using Kodi......Best option of all so far.
He's just ordered a use Mac mini just for mirroring ....by reports he's read it's the best way all the way.
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Old 21-09-2016, 10:20
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All down to licencsing I'd imagine.
Oh, it definitely is licensing, but I would love to look at the agreements made by each company, and why some allow for full airplay, whilst others don't.

I've generally been under the impression that it was to do with content signed under older license agreements that make vague references to restricting re-transmissions. Being vague, the broadcaster's legal department were worried that full airplay could be misinterpreted as re-transmission if the content providers wanted to be dicks (and may have a history of dicking around), so to play it on the safe side, they block it.

But this is just something I've heard and not actually checked the fine print myself.
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Old 24-09-2016, 14:18
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I bought one of these yesterday, it does everything my son wanted to use it for (mostly Airplay Mirroring), he is very happy watching football on the big screen as I type. Thanks for reply's.
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Old 24-09-2016, 16:33
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I bought one of these yesterday, it does everything my son wanted to use it for (mostly Airplay Mirroring), he is very happy watching football on the big screen as I type. Thanks for reply's.
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Old 24-09-2016, 18:38
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I got a 3rd gen from CEX. It was A rated , boxed with all cellophane unopened and comes with a 2 year guarantee. So we are both happy !
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