All I want is people to be able to discuss what the OP has posted and if they consider it wrong explain that in a reasoned and civilised manner, rather than just stifle the debate.

Hopefully this thread will be closed by the DS mods!

That's what you want, and that's fine. Others on here want to enjoy a forum where views they find offensive are reportable. Both of these are valid forms of expression and you shouldn't be shutting down the one you disagree with.

Well if that being said can we please have no more straight people eating others face either!

OP you are no better then the bigots that make a complaint to ofcom, it's YOU that is the problem not a gay couple/person onscreen.

What a homophobic thread! The creator of "Coronation Street" was gay!

Like I said I don't have that much influence, so I'm not in a position to shut down anything.

I have already explained what I want, but since you seem to think you know what I want better than me, I won't waste any more of my time trying to convince you otherwise.

'Shutting down' is simply a common internet expression for not being able to see the other viewpoint.

And I am simply saying let's have the debate rather than 'shut it down' tell the OP why he/she is wrong rather than tell me that I am wrong for wanting the debate or whatever you have decided I want, maybe the OP will then understand better, I know that's probably not what the OP want's, maybe it's not what others want either.

Why? I think engaging in debate is far better than closing it down unless it descends into personal arguments

I have nothing against people debating on here and I often engage in debates myself. With that said, nobody is OWED a debate just because they have aired a controversial view. If that view personally offends some people then they are well within their rights to report it and by telling them otherwise, by saying they shouldn't be doing that and they should be doing what YOU want to see, you are trying to restrict their freedom of expression. If the mods decide that the post doesn't violate T&Cs then the post can continue and people will be free to discuss and debate it or ignore the topic if they don't like it.

I personally didn't find the original post offensive; it's one I disagree with because I'm all about filling soaps with so many gay characters that they end up resembling Canal Street on a Friday night, but IMO it just stopped short of attacking gay people generally, unlike some posts I've seen on this forum in the past that I DID report. However, everyone's views on what can be classed as offensive are different, so if people want to go ahead and report it so that the mods can take a look at it to decide then they should be able to do that without being made to feel that they're whiney crybabies who get anything shut down that they don't like.

All these words apply to Todd so I'm quite happy to watch him "snogging the face off" anyone or anything - male, female or otherwise

Steady now, you may or may not become a target for holding that view.

I actually agree with the OP.

I watched an interesting discussion panel on whether or not gay kissing should be shown before the watershed and it raised some interesting views on why it shouldn't be. THE OP should check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFAakrGgN6M

Best comment in this thread.

It's pretty obvious that the only person trying to 'shut down discussion' here is you.






I wasn't ready for that!

Really, nonsense and you know it, let's actually start to discuss what the OP says then.

These threads always smack me as ridiculous. You wouldn't have a Corrie to watch if a gay man hadn't created it!

Then why do you keep inferring that people aren't "allowed" to hold certain opinions when plainly they are? Nobody has denied the OP's right to air their views. But we are equally entitled to disagree with them.


I think the OP is trolling, and it's pretty telling that they bailed after starting the thread. But if you want to discuss it I'm happy to.

There was plenty of discussion about "men sucking each other's faces" when the Todd and Billy scenes aired recently and Ofcom rightly rejected the pathetic complaints against it. Soaps have a duty to portray straight and gay couples in exactly the same way, even if a few small-minded idiots can't handle it.

The OP also mentioned "demographics". Another slippery slope fallacy. Corrie has, what, 5 gay characters out of a cast of 50? That's 10%. It's been estimated that the gay population is anywhere between 8-12% of the population (the statistics vary) so Corrie is actually pretty reflective of the general population. Let's also not forget Coronation Street is set in Manchester which is a very gay-friendly city and has a large LGBT community. Gay characters have always existed in soaps and if the OP can't handle it I suggest he doesn't watch and save himself the bother of telling us how icky he finds it.

That's some good advice for you to take. As far as I can see, you haven't commented at all on the original post, just other people's responses and predicted responses to it. So what are your actual views on this topic?

These threads always end up the same way instead of discussing what the OP has posted some people just target other posters for some daft reason.

What about lesbians? Is seeing them snog ok? As long as they're "hot", right?

It's strange that the OP hasn't made another post in this thread apart from the first one. He/she doesn't seem to be that interested in debating the topic.

I don't have a problem with any relationship gay or otherwise being shown in Corrie or any other soap and since kissing is part of a relationship I don't have a problem with that either.

That does raise the suspicion that the thread may have just been stated to bait people, but doesn't stop others from discussing the topic sensibly if that is what they want.

Of course the OP may just have had limited time and wanted to get some replies before re-joining to discuss the issues raised later..

I find myself in perfect agreement.