Originally Posted by Ochre:
“"The cold never bothered me anyway . . . "”
“"The cold never bothered me anyway . . . "”
"Couldn't keep it in;
Heaven knows I've tried" (not very hard though
)
Aliona knows who is going to win SCD 2016!
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Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I was a strong supporter of Giovanni and Georgia last year. Voted for them and everything. But I can't get my head around why anyone who noticed their relationship would care about it, or give any attention to the reasons for it failing.
I'm not being anti-romance. Fictional lives in film or books are genuinely fascinating. But with real people, it feels intrusive.
Basically, it seems a shame to spoil someone's fresh experience on SCD with a load of weary baggage.”
“I was a strong supporter of Giovanni and Georgia last year. Voted for them and everything. But I can't get my head around why anyone who noticed their relationship would care about it, or give any attention to the reasons for it failing.
I'm not being anti-romance. Fictional lives in film or books are genuinely fascinating. But with real people, it feels intrusive.
Basically, it seems a shame to spoil someone's fresh experience on SCD with a load of weary baggage.”
BIB Baggage that's completely irrelevant to Laura and I don't think will affect Giovanni's performance in his job either.
The majority of viewers don't vote based on a celeb or pros ex partner (who they won't even realise is his ex), former Strictly contestant or not. Why on earth would they consider that, the idea's ridiculous to me
It's a light entertainment show where celebs are taught to dance by professionals and I enjoy watching their progress and discussing what I've watched. No place for shipper fan fiction.
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“"Couldn't keep it in;
Heaven knows I've tried" (not very hard though)”
“"Couldn't keep it in;
Heaven knows I've tried" (not very hard though
)”
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“"The cold never bothered me anyway . . . "”
“"The cold never bothered me anyway . . . "”
Over the past few months there has been a great deal of creative and frankly downright wacky things used to take digs at Georgia.
Here are some of my particular favourites:
When she was accused of attention seeking for saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips.
When she was accused of being 'desperate' for showing her appreciation for the support she has online.
When she was accused, along with Giovanni, of deliberately blocking out peopl by standing for a photograph. As I notice that there has been a lot of concern in recent days as to what has been perceived as unnecessary criticism of Giovanni on social media, I just hope that he isn't reminded of this particularly major misdemeanor from 3/4 weeks ago!
But of all those things, I think digs at her through song lyrics is by far the most innovative and amusing - hats off to you all!
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Over the past few months there has been a great deal of creative and frankly downright wacky things used to take digs at Georgia.
Here are some of my particular favourites:
When she was accused of attention seeking for saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips.
When she was accused of being 'desperate' for showing her appreciation for the support she has online.
When she was accused, along with Giovanni, of deliberately blocking out peopl by standing for a photograph. As I notice that there has been a lot of concern in recent days as to what has been perceived as unnecessary criticism of Giovanni on social media, I just hope that he isn't reminded of this particularly major misdemeanor from 3/4 weeks ago!
But of all those things, I think digs at her through song lyrics is by far the most innovative and amusing - hats off to you all!”
“Over the past few months there has been a great deal of creative and frankly downright wacky things used to take digs at Georgia.
Here are some of my particular favourites:
When she was accused of attention seeking for saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips.
When she was accused of being 'desperate' for showing her appreciation for the support she has online.
When she was accused, along with Giovanni, of deliberately blocking out peopl by standing for a photograph. As I notice that there has been a lot of concern in recent days as to what has been perceived as unnecessary criticism of Giovanni on social media, I just hope that he isn't reminded of this particularly major misdemeanor from 3/4 weeks ago!
But of all those things, I think digs at her through song lyrics is by far the most innovative and amusing - hats off to you all!
”
Eh?? I posted a link to Frozen in response to the post about baggage. You may not be a fan of Frozen Brian (and I forgive you if you aren't) but one of the most famous songs is "Let It Go" hence my link. Ochre clearly IS a fan of Frozen and quoted from it so I quoted back and was actually referring to myself when I said I don't try very hard to keep it all in! Nowt to do with Georgia, it was about how we all keep having these groundhog day discussions. Please read back through the last few posts and hopefully this will make sense!
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Eh?? I posted a link to Frozen in response to the post about baggage. You may not be a fan of Frozen Brian (and I forgive you if you aren't) but one of the most famous songs is "Let It Go" hence my link. Ochre clearly IS a fan of Frozen and quoted from it so I quoted back and was actually referring to myself when I said I don't try very hard to keep it all in! Nowt to do with Georgia, it was about how we all keep having these groundhog day discussions. Please read back through the last few posts and hopefully this will make sense!”
“Eh?? I posted a link to Frozen in response to the post about baggage. You may not be a fan of Frozen Brian (and I forgive you if you aren't) but one of the most famous songs is "Let It Go" hence my link. Ochre clearly IS a fan of Frozen and quoted from it so I quoted back and was actually referring to myself when I said I don't try very hard to keep it all in! Nowt to do with Georgia, it was about how we all keep having these groundhog day discussions. Please read back through the last few posts and hopefully this will make sense!”
Oh I see! Well you weren't being quite as innovative as I thought - I wasn't picking up on your post but I was assuming that as Ochre quoted the line 'the cold doesn't bother me anyway" (and you had just been talking about Georgia having a 'life threatening cold')) that it was some sort of reference to her! Never mind, I've still got the many other examples of tremendous innovation in criticizing Georgia I listed in my previous post to look back on!
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Oh I see! Well you weren't being quite as innovative as I thought - I wasn't picking up on your post but I was assuming that as Ochre quoted the line 'the cold doesn't bother me anyway" (and you had just been talking about Georgia having a 'life threatening cold')) that it was some sort of reference to her! Never mind, I've still got the many other examples of tremendous innovation in criticizing Georgia I listed in my previous post to look back on!”
“Oh I see! Well you weren't being quite as innovative as I thought - I wasn't picking up on your post but I was assuming that as Ochre quoted the line 'the cold doesn't bother me anyway" (and you had just been talking about Georgia having a 'life threatening cold')) that it was some sort of reference to her! Never mind, I've still got the many other examples of tremendous innovation in criticizing Georgia I listed in my previous post to look back on!”
Homework for this weekend ... watch Frozen!! (Not really, it doesn't really sound like it's your bag
)Okay, I see your chips and gravy and raise you "Anthony Ogogo's dislocated shoulder had nothing to do with his performance in the Paso. Oti should have tried harder"
Hmm, how long do you reckon a "What's the most ridiculous post you've ever read on DS" thread would last?
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Homework for this weekend ... watch Frozen!! (Not really, it doesn't really sound like it's your bag)
Okay, I see your chips and gravy and raise you "Anthony Ogogo's dislocated shoulder had nothing to do with his performance in the Paso. Oti should have tried harder" Hmm, how long do you reckon a "What's the most ridiculous post you've ever read on DS" thread would last? ”
“Homework for this weekend ... watch Frozen!! (Not really, it doesn't really sound like it's your bag
)Okay, I see your chips and gravy and raise you "Anthony Ogogo's dislocated shoulder had nothing to do with his performance in the Paso. Oti should have tried harder"
Hmm, how long do you reckon a "What's the most ridiculous post you've ever read on DS" thread would last? ”
You're right there, in fact Disney in general isn't particularly my bag!
Poor Anthony never really stood a chance with his shoulder did he? I'm sure I read this on one of the threads once but if ever anyone was offered a second opportunity to do the show, it should really be him
And that thread you suggest I think would be in contention for the longest one ever on DS!
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“You're right there, in fact Disney in general isn't particularly my bag!
Poor Anthony never really stood a chance with his shoulder did he? I'm sure I read this on one of the threads once but if ever anyone was offered a second opportunity to do the show, it should really be him
And that thread you suggest I think would be in contention for the longest one ever on DS!”
“You're right there, in fact Disney in general isn't particularly my bag!
Poor Anthony never really stood a chance with his shoulder did he? I'm sure I read this on one of the threads once but if ever anyone was offered a second opportunity to do the show, it should really be him
And that thread you suggest I think would be in contention for the longest one ever on DS!”
He didn't, I don't understand why PTB asked him to do it
And I was cross for Oti as well because it scuppered her chances of having a decent series. I'm looking forward to seeing her partnership with Danny, he was shyer than I expected him to be on the launch show so I hope she's bought him out of his shell
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“He didn't, I don't understand why PTB asked him to do it And I was cross for Oti as well because it scuppered her chances of having a decent series. I'm looking forward to seeing her partnership with Danny, he was shyer than I expected him to be on the launch show so I hope she's bought him out of his shell ”
“He didn't, I don't understand why PTB asked him to do it
And I was cross for Oti as well because it scuppered her chances of having a decent series. I'm looking forward to seeing her partnership with Danny, he was shyer than I expected him to be on the launch show so I hope she's bought him out of his shell ”
I don't know why he actually wanted to take part - look up accident prone in the dictionary and it has his picture next to it ... and Strictly doesn't have the best of records with sending back Olympic hopefuls undamaged.
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I was a strong supporter of Giovanni and Georgia last year. Voted for them and everything. But I can't get my head around why anyone who noticed their relationship would care about it, or give any attention to the reasons for it failing.
I'm not being anti-romance. Fictional lives in film or books are genuinely fascinating. But with real people, it feels intrusive.
Basically, it seems a shame to spoil someone's fresh experience on SCD with a load of weary baggage.”
“I was a strong supporter of Giovanni and Georgia last year. Voted for them and everything. But I can't get my head around why anyone who noticed their relationship would care about it, or give any attention to the reasons for it failing.
I'm not being anti-romance. Fictional lives in film or books are genuinely fascinating. But with real people, it feels intrusive.
Basically, it seems a shame to spoil someone's fresh experience on SCD with a load of weary baggage.”
Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.
Originally Posted by choucroute:
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
I'd never heard of shipping before today! I did some googling and it looks as if poor old JK Rowling has has a few nightmares with her shippers who are seriously cross that Harry hooked up with Ginny and not Hermione
Originally Posted by choucroute:
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
I think we can all be guilty of doing that to a certain extent, even if we don't 'ship' people or are ambivalent towards them. For example, people who don't particularly like someone can arguably be guilty also of using real life people and weaving their own stories about them based on them, influenced by their feelings for the person.
Originally Posted by choucroute:
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
But that's the thing - there does seem to be a scary blurring of the line when basing the fantasy on real people.
Apparently, the Twightlight used to be couple, are really still together and the secret parents of not one but 2 kids and people believe this is a real thing. Honestly, if people can believe that, they'll believe owt.
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I'd never heard of shipping before today! I did some googling and it looks as if poor old JK Rowling has has a few nightmares with her shippers who are seriously cross that Harry hooked up with Ginny and not Hermione”
“I'd never heard of shipping before today! I did some googling and it looks as if poor old JK Rowling has has a few nightmares with her shippers who are seriously cross that Harry hooked up with Ginny and not Hermione
”
I've had a crash course from an eye rolling teenager
- apparently Twightlight and 1D are quite heavily shipped (feels trendy 
). It's a far cry from tying a tartan scarf round my wrist on the offchance I stumbled across a Bay City Roller ...
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I've had a crash course from an eye rolling teenager - apparently Twightlight and 1D are quite heavily shipped (feels trendy ). It's a far cry from tying a tartan scarf round my wrist on the offchance I stumbled across a Bay City Roller ...”
“I've had a crash course from an eye rolling teenager
- apparently Twightlight and 1D are quite heavily shipped (feels trendy ). It's a far cry from tying a tartan scarf round my wrist on the offchance I stumbled across a Bay City Roller ...”
I have heard about the Twilight shipping even though I didn't know what it was called I will hold my hand up to being one of the weeping masses when Princess Diana died
I felt genuinely really sad and as if I knew her which was completely mad because of course I didn't.
Originally Posted by choucroute:
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
“Isn't shipping just another form of fiction? People use characters (whether fictional or real life) as a basis and weave their own story. For me it's only problematic if shippers of real people don't realize it's all conjecture/projection or if they lash out on social media.”
I can see that. I've just got this stubborn bit of me that rather likes the fact that other people aren't products of my imagination and are therefore willful, awkward, badly behaved and interesting buggers...
In a way fan fiction is at the centre of the issue. When fans write their fictions it's often (not always) to 'correct' an unliked direction taken by the screenwriter or author, so there's an inherant dislike of an external resistance to their own fantasy perception. When that dislike, or that need to fulfil the fantasy, is transposed onto real people, fan fiction is wavering in the direction of scary IMO.
Where books and films are better (to be bloody minded about it) is that in direct relation to their value (more of my bloody mind!) they are capable of including resistance to even wished-for ends. Life is intractable, thank the non-existent God!
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“ I have heard about the Twilight shipping even though I didn't know what it was called
I will hold my hand up to being one of the weeping masses when Princess Diana died I felt genuinely really sad and as if I knew her which was completely mad because of course I didn't.”
“
I have heard about the Twilight shipping even though I didn't know what it was called I will hold my hand up to being one of the weeping masses when Princess Diana died
I felt genuinely really sad and as if I knew her which was completely mad because of course I didn't.”
That's different though. (Is it? It seems different to me.) Not that I mourned for Diana in particular (sorry) but I went around with a dull ache for days when Mick Aston of Time Team suddenly died. I can't say why except that a recognisable human being had gone. Grief is one of those direct emotions that is always personal. It's like when you watch the news and you hear someone crying at their loss -- from wherever in the world -- the note of grief seems to be the same and you feel it just below the collar bone. (Is this making sense??)
Your grief for Diana seems more like the poetry of connection -- one moment of instinct -- rather than a narrative you've woven.
Maybe the distinction I'm trying to make is between imaginative connection and imaginary worlds. Watching SCD and engaging with the contestants as they flail around or get moments of breakthrough is an imaginative connection. Shipping is entering an imaginary world.
Dunno
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I'd never heard of shipping before today! I did some googling and it looks as if poor old JK Rowling has has a few nightmares with her shippers who are seriously cross that Harry hooked up with Ginny and not Hermione”
“I'd never heard of shipping before today! I did some googling and it looks as if poor old JK Rowling has has a few nightmares with her shippers who are seriously cross that Harry hooked up with Ginny and not Hermione
”
She admitted herself that Harry and Ginny was a mistake, it should have been Harry and Hermione all along. I still don't understand Harry & Ginny, never have, never will. Ahem.
Anyway, only a day to go, whoooo!
(I'm not a shipper, honest)
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Over the past few months there has been a great deal of creative and frankly downright wacky things used to take digs at Georgia.
Here are some of my particular favourites:
When she was accused of attention seeking for saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips.
When she was accused of being 'desperate' for showing her appreciation for the support she has online.
When she was accused, along with Giovanni, of deliberately blocking out peopl by standing for a photograph. As I notice that there has been a lot of concern in recent days as to what has been perceived as unnecessary criticism of Giovanni on social media, I just hope that he isn't reminded of this particularly major misdemeanor from 3/4 weeks ago!
But of all those things, I think digs at her through song lyrics is by far the most innovative and amusing - hats off to you all!”
“Over the past few months there has been a great deal of creative and frankly downright wacky things used to take digs at Georgia.
Here are some of my particular favourites:
When she was accused of attention seeking for saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips.
When she was accused of being 'desperate' for showing her appreciation for the support she has online.
When she was accused, along with Giovanni, of deliberately blocking out peopl by standing for a photograph. As I notice that there has been a lot of concern in recent days as to what has been perceived as unnecessary criticism of Giovanni on social media, I just hope that he isn't reminded of this particularly major misdemeanor from 3/4 weeks ago!
But of all those things, I think digs at her through song lyrics is by far the most innovative and amusing - hats off to you all!
”
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“I think we can all be guilty of doing that to a certain extent, even if we don't 'ship' people or are ambivalent towards them. For example, people who don't particularly like someone can arguably be guilty also of using real life people and weaving their own stories about them based on them, influenced by their feelings for the person.”
“I think we can all be guilty of doing that to a certain extent, even if we don't 'ship' people or are ambivalent towards them. For example, people who don't particularly like someone can arguably be guilty also of using real life people and weaving their own stories about them based on them, influenced by their feelings for the person.”
Yep experienced that.
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“She admitted herself that Harry and Ginny was a mistake, it should have been Harry and Hermione all along. I still don't understand Harry & Ginny, never have, never will. Ahem.
Anyway, only a day to go, whoooo!
(I'm not a shipper, honest)”
“She admitted herself that Harry and Ginny was a mistake, it should have been Harry and Hermione all along. I still don't understand Harry & Ginny, never have, never will. Ahem.
Anyway, only a day to go, whoooo!
(I'm not a shipper, honest)”
I'll never forgive JKR for not understanding that Remus was her greatest creation. What a wasted character.
Plus she said some rubbish about Corbyn not being Obi Wan Gan-Dumbledore, which he clearly is
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“She admitted herself that Harry and Ginny was a mistake, it should have been Harry and Hermione all along. I still don't understand Harry & Ginny, never have, never will. Ahem.
Anyway, only a day to go, whoooo!
(I'm not a shipper, honest)”
“She admitted herself that Harry and Ginny was a mistake, it should have been Harry and Hermione all along. I still don't understand Harry & Ginny, never have, never will. Ahem.
Anyway, only a day to go, whoooo!
(I'm not a shipper, honest)”
I've been furthering my education
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_(fandom)
Quote:
“Harry/Hermione shippers were somewhat vindicated in an interview with Rowling in February 2014 in Wonderland Magazine in which she stated that she thought that realistically "in some ways Harry and Hermione are a better fit [in comparison to Ron and Hermione]" and that Hermione and Ron had "too much fundamental incompatibility." She stated that Hermione and Ron were written together "as a form of wish fulfillment" as way to reconcile a relationship she herself was once in. She went on to say that perhaps with marriage counseling Ron and Hermione would have been all right.[20] She also went on to say in a talk at Exeter University that Harry's love for Ginny is true,[21] thereby denying anything between Harry and Hermione. In spite of that, the ship debates still continue.”
“Harry/Hermione shippers were somewhat vindicated in an interview with Rowling in February 2014 in Wonderland Magazine in which she stated that she thought that realistically "in some ways Harry and Hermione are a better fit [in comparison to Ron and Hermione]" and that Hermione and Ron had "too much fundamental incompatibility." She stated that Hermione and Ron were written together "as a form of wish fulfillment" as way to reconcile a relationship she herself was once in. She went on to say that perhaps with marriage counseling Ron and Hermione would have been all right.[20] She also went on to say in a talk at Exeter University that Harry's love for Ginny is true,[21] thereby denying anything between Harry and Hermione. In spite of that, the ship debates still continue.”
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Yep experienced that.”
“Yep experienced that.”
Aw, no need to call yourself out on it. Perhaps Georgia was attention seeking by saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips, but I always felt that you may have chosen to read it as such because it seems you don't like it Georgia all that much.
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Aw, no need to call yourself out on it. Perhaps Georgia was attention seeking by saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips, but I always felt that you may have chosen to read it as such because it seems you don't like it Georgia all that much.”
“Aw, no need to call yourself out on it. Perhaps Georgia was attention seeking by saying she liked gravy with her fish and chips, but I always felt that you may have chosen to read it as such because it seems you don't like it Georgia all that much.
”
I'm not affected in the least by your windups
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“I'm not affected in the least by your windups”
“I'm not affected in the least by your windups
”
Wind up? Pointing out the facts as I saw it. Never mind.
Given that I responded to your post (#145) it would seem I'm not very good at not responding to wind ups myself.
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