Aliona knows who is going to win SCD 2016!

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star89

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Homework for this weekend ... watch Frozen!! (Not really, it doesn't really sound like it's your bag )

Okay, I see your chips and gravy and raise you "Anthony Ogogo's dislocated shoulder had nothing to do with his performance in the Paso. Oti should have tried harder" Hmm, how long do you reckon a "What's the most ridiculous post you've ever read on DS" thread would last? ”

No. Do it, Brian - it's a great film

Lou_Black

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by star89:
“No. Do it, Brian - it's a great film ”

I love it Star but I have never really grown up - as probably evidenced by many of my posts!

Brian_Grahams

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by star89:
“No. Do it, Brian - it's a great film ”

Well I have heard good things about it, and the 'Let it Go' song is rather catchy in a peculiar sort of way!

Ochre

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I love it Star but I have never really grown up - as probably evidenced by many of my posts!”

We love Frozen in our house, favourite of my 7 year old and youngest so hopefully we'll be watching it, singing the songs and buying merchandise for many years yet

star89

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I love it Star but I have never really grown up - as probably evidenced by many of my posts!”

Gotta love Disney films and Frozen is a brilliant one. I'm bit of an old school Disney fan and prefer all the old classics and haven't taken to the new ones much - except Frozen, love it!

Originally Posted by Ochre:
“We love Frozen in our house, favourite of my 7 year old and youngest so hopefully we'll be watching it, singing the songs and buying merchandise for many years yet ”

The money they have made from that film

Gotta be one of their biggest earners when it comes to merchandise??

choucroute

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I can see that. I've just got this stubborn bit of me that rather likes the fact that other people aren't products of my imagination and are therefore willful, awkward, badly behaved and interesting buggers...

In a way fan fiction is at the centre of the issue. When fans write their fictions it's often (not always) to 'correct' an unliked direction taken by the screenwriter or author, so there's an inherant dislike of an external resistance to their own fantasy perception. When that dislike, or that need to fulfil the fantasy, is transposed onto real people, fan fiction is wavering in the direction of scary IMO.

Where books and films are better (to be bloody minded about it) is that in direct relation to their value (more of my bloody mind!) they are capable of including resistance to even wished-for ends. Life is intractable, thank the non-existent God!”

I see what you're saying and you're right, shipping and fan fiction are intertwined. For me, though, fan fiction is amazing. I see it as people being inspired by a story or characters and expanding on it to make something new (issues of IP and copyright aside). Regarding real people, I suppose celebrities have always been products of the public's imagination.

Sorry to be again going off topic. (I just find this stuff more interesting than Aliona's alleged claim to know who's going to win this year.) I'll stop now!

Toasted Toad

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“In fairness though I think it will have been demanded by Georgia, more the ideas of the producers!

And, putting myself in her position - If I was on the programme and had become ill during the week (so much so that I only had two days of trańining) I'd want to make damn sure people knew the reason why my dancing level had gone down from the usual level. Not that it particularly did in Georgia's case, granted the technique of the Cha Cha wasn't all there, but the VW was exquisite, I thought.”

Not everyone does the same. J lost a day's training the same week. He did not permit this to be mentioned.

And Monkseal, I'm very much looking forward to la Jordan telling me what I should think this year

. Where else would I get my regular dose of bile and bitchiness!

And Aliona is clearly just supporting her mate, no more. They partnered on Tour and clearly got along really well. She, Joe, Aljaz and J were constantly mucking about on stage.

Brian_Grahams

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Not everyone does the same. J lost a day's training the same week. He did not permit this to be mentioned.

And Monkseal, I'm very much looking forward to la Jordan telling me what I should think this year . Where else would I get my regular dose of bile and bitchiness!

And Aliona is clearly just supporting her mate, no more. They partnered on Tour and clearly got along really well. She, Gleb, Joe and J were constantly mucking about on stage.”

Each to their own. Though Georgia lost three days, and wasn't exactly up to much on the other two either I don't think!

Huph

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Each to their own. Though Georgia lost three days, and wasn't exactly up to much on the other two either I don't think!”

Jay lost the day's training to attend his Grandfather's funeral so I don't suppose he felt up to much on the other days either.

Toasted Toad

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Each to their own. Though Georgia lost three days, and wasn't exactly up to much on the other two either I don't think!”

Maybe Georgia did need to explain herself that week. One of her dances was of week 1 standard, so people needed to at least have some idea why. I think that in most cases, probably the producers are more keen to make a meal of it than the celebs themselves, regarding it as "human interest".

Brian_Grahams

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Huph:
“Jay lost the day's training to attend his Grandfather's funeral so I don't suppose he felt up to much on the other days either.”

Yes, it must have been awful for him.
But I'm not going to criticise Georgia on the basis of someone else's actions, I explained earlier why I would've wanted to explain about it if I'd been ill - and if that makes Jay a 'better' person that me then so be it.

Toasted Toad

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Yes, it must have been awful for him.
But I'm not going to criticise Georgia on the basis of someone else's actions, I explained earlier why I would've wanted to explain about it if I'd been ill - and if that makes Jay a 'better' person that me then so be it.”

No, I don't think that either is better than the other. Just that they are different. And choosing privacy means that you are not given any slack if your dancing suffers one week.

Nina_Blake

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“No, I don't think that either is better than the other. Just that they are different. And choosing privacy means that you are not given any slack if your dancing suffers one week.”

Doesn't seem like calling her Cha-Cha "week 1 standard" is giving much slack either

, so clearly it didn't make that much of an impact anyway.

Toasted Toad

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Doesn't seem like calling her Cha-Cha "week 1 standard" is giving much slack either , so clearly it didn't make that much of an impact anyway.”

But she wasn't given marks appropriate to a week 1 dance appearing that late in the competition. I didn't have a problem with it - she was clearly extremely ill, and there was no "wuzrobbed" situation that week, so it all worked out.

Nina_Blake

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“But she wasn't given marks appropriate to a week 1 dance appearing that late in the competition. I didn't have a problem with it - she was clearly extremely ill, and there was no "wuzrobbed" situation that week, so it all worked out.”

True - now it's just the source of unimaginative put-downs on a completely unrelated thread.

claire_louise

22-09-2016

Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“I have seen these same words from you on a couple of threads now and am intrigued to know who you are referring to & what sort of problems??

If as I suspect you are referring to your old sparring partners over here in the GG thread I can happily report that the general consensus with Laura seems to be either apathy or 'let's see how she dances!!'
I certainly don't get any sense of anybody over here wanting to 'create problems' & the general feeling all along has been sympathy for her as many of us felt the BBC were using her as a pawn in a rather silly & childish game to create tabloid headlines!!
Personally I wish them nothing but the best for Strictly & I hope they develop a good dance chemistry, do well in the competition and that Laura & Georgia can keep their friendship, at the moment I have seen nothing to suggest that won't be the case!!

As for Giovanni, there has been a few minor mutterings from some of our thread members but in general we are still very much the Georgia AND Giovanni thread & wish He & Laura Strictly success!!
I can't of course speak for every single member but that is certainly the overriding impression I'm getting!!

If your comments were not referring to us please disregard all of this!! ”

Totally agree NDD!

As a big team GG fan I don't have many feelings towards Gio and Laura either way (yet) I'm looking forward to seeing what they both do, but for me it's about the celeb and then the partnership and what they can do! At the moment I know more about danny, will and Louise so I favour them at the moment! But that could and probably will all change! I think team lavanni, Jo and ore and aj and Claudia could be great too! Time will tell and I am looking forward to tomorrow ( I say tomorrow but I'm not actually going to be able to watch till Monday

)

I don't want to be in the category of GG fans who are totally against team lavanni because I'm not! ( (nor do I think anyone from the GG thread feels like that really) I just want to wait until I see them dance - usually takes me a couple of weeks before I know who I like anyways!

chachaclo

22-09-2016

I think I'm team mick. Team mick is a thing right? 🐶

Ochre

23-09-2016

Originally Posted by chachaclo:
“I think I'm team mick. Team mick is a thing right? 🐶”

A growing phenomenon

#Micksgotthemoves

Sarah777

23-09-2016

Originally Posted by chachaclo:
“I think I'm team mick. Team mick is a thing right? 🐶”

Yes, me too. I think #TeamMick will be very popular, once people see him on the training VT. I hope he trends, it will be so cool, doubt it. I am getting carried away.
I love that dog.

Lou_Black

26-09-2016

Aliona has sent Laura a congratulatory tweet

https://twitter.com/AlionaVilani/sta...81039273312260

VicsMum

26-09-2016

Aliona might want to change her tune after Laura's first performance...She's not winning this in a million years.

Lou_Black

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Aliona might want to change her tune after Laura's first performance...She's not winning this in a million years.”

Fighting talk VicsMum

I would agree, she wasn't the best dancer of the weekend but I'm glad about that (probably not as glad as I would have been if she had been the best dancer ha ha) but I absolutely loved Jay last year and he definitely wasn't the best dancer on week one.

Ochre

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Aliona might want to change her tune after Laura's first performance...She's not winning this in a million years.”

Aliona didn't win two Glitterballs by giving up after Week One

Laura showed loads of potential.

VicsMum

26-09-2016

Haha, not fighting talk, no.

Last year was a completely different kettle of fish, though. In terms of dance, I'd say the three finalists had good weeks and not so good weeks, but it was pretty much clear since the early beginning who was going to reach the final and who wasn't (I'd have swapped Katie for Anita/Helen but that's the only thing). Jay, Georgia and Kellie were consistent since week 1 and the three (four if we count Katie) rightful people reached the final. However, in terms of popularity, Jay had it in the bag since week 3 and that was that.

This year is very different, the field is a lot more open. You have more ringahs for starters and also possible journey contestants like Greg and Daisy who haven't got a dance background/training (not that we know it). Based on week 1 only, if we compare Laura to Louise, Daisy, Danny, Ore, Will, and, just to make things more interesting, let's add Judgey and Claudia to the mix, I'd say she doesn't stand a chance. I see an arch pretty similar to Rachel Riley's. Obviously I'm just taking into consideration performance, I have no idea how popularity is going to play into it but, judging by the stats thread, I wouldn't say she can rely on a big fanbase.

All of the above can go to ****, of course, in case she produces a magic jive on week 3.

Lou_Black

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Haha, not fighting talk, no.

Last year was a completely different kettle of fish, though. In terms of dance, I'd say the three finalists had good weeks and not so good weeks, but it was pretty much clear since the early beginning who was going to reach the final and who wasn't (I'd have swapped Katie for Anita but that's the only thing). Jay, Georgia and Kellie were consistent since week 1 and the three (four if we count Katie) rightful people reached the final. However, in terms of popularity, Jay had it in the bag since week 3 and that was that.

This year is very different, the field is a lot more open. You have more ringahs for starters and also possible journey contestants like Greg and Daisy who haven't got a dance background/training (not that we know it). Based on week 1 only, if we compare Laura to Louise, Danny, Ore, Will, and, just to make things more interesting, let's add Judgey and Claudia to the mix, I'd say she doesn't stand a chance. I see an arch pretty similar to Rachel Riley's. Obviously I'm just taking into consideration performance, I have no idea how popularity is going to play into it but, judging by the stats thread, I wouldn't say she can rely on a big fanbase.

All of the above can go to ****, of course, in case she produces a magic jive on week 3. ”

I'd definitely agree that the field is a lot more open this year which makes it very exciting. I'm trying to think back to the opening shows last year and I can't remember being overwhelmed by anyone other than

Peter Andre and Janette - I really did like their cha cha!

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