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Old 22-09-2016, 14:48
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I didn't see a thread so might aswell start one.

Pretty decent opening and a pretty diverse group. But I already find the 'young people rule' vs 'young people suck' theme annoying.

I think the Millennials are the slightly more interesting tribe, as long as the 'pretty ones' get decimated. I've watched Mari in Smosh videos on youtube so I'm already familiar with her. I also got good vibes from Adam, Hannah and Michelle.

On Gen X, the dynamics are a little more confusing. I wasn't sure about Bret's strategy when he said that as long as he has 6 then he can split the votes, even though that would make it 3 and 3 up against 4 votes. It works as long as the others aren't on the same page.
David's probably the most neurotic contestant ever, though there was a certain Cochran-vibe about it. If he can just shut his yap and keep being seen as weak then he could last a while.
As soon as Rachel got the 2-minute "this girl's annoying" segment things weren't looking good for her. And did we even hear Lucy speak at all?

Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the season. A nice clean slate and no returnees.
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Old 22-09-2016, 23:38
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Thanks for not spoiling it in the first line as I wasn't aware it had already premiered.

The theme is kind of silly, but I think it will fade eventually, particularly when any switch or merging of tribes happens.

There seem some good characters, I'm definitely against the cool kids trio as well.

The elimination seemed pretty obvious, David had a sympathetic edit and looked likely to survive.

I liked the choices given both in selecting initial supplies and even more in the immunity challenge (added a new element to the puzzle decision apart from just who does it).

The inherited clue thing could easily get passed along to others as it's not valid for quite some time. It'll be interesting to see if it's kept secret for that long, I doubt it.
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Old 27-09-2016, 04:24
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Adam is so cute. CUTE. CUTE.

The premiere was meh. The storm looked pretty nasty and holy cow thank God they left the beach.

The legacy advantage was such a BS.
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Old 29-09-2016, 12:29
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Damn that was tough to watch.

I could see the one voted off going a little power-crazy at some point, but with so many bland characters and half the cast virtually invisible this episode, the loss of a scrappy gamer will be felt.
It was sad watching people I championed last week basically obliterate eachother in favour of keeping the pretty people, who are now being rewarded for starting a showmance and making an obvious 3-person alliance on a 10-person tribe.
Props to Michelle for pulling it off, hopefully this was about creating bonds for herself rather than staying loyal to the douches and Figgy, because she's not in Triforce incase she missed it.
Ugh at Hannah caving so easily (which is not a satisfying storyline after her obsessing over being the outcast last week) and Michaela is going to feel so dumb eating up that lie from Jay.

On Gen X, I can see Probst salivating at this Ken and David alliance. It would be like if Ozzy and Cochran made an alliance. Though it was slightly awkward when they were targeting Paul, meanwhile Paul's collapsing on the floor.

After the promising opening last week I'm very wary now as I'm not keen on either majority alliance. Millennials has the outcasts handing power to the jocks, while there's too many big burly alpha males and bland females on Gen X. Not good.
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Old 29-09-2016, 14:00
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I don't know the name of that weak woman who took ages to vote but she annoyed me, And the result was strange, I don't remember Mari being a focus in the episode at all.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:48
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Loved tribal this week and the result. You can tell Figgy is going to bring the drama. I'm actually rooting for the "cool kids" alliance. They are the only interesting people, everyone else is just meh.

I quite liked the Ken and David alliance (even though David is so incredible weak). I'm finding myself rooting for them.
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Old 29-09-2016, 17:29
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I think Michelle's the only really interesting one in that group, though Jay showed some possibilities. But the main focus is on the showmance and I feel like I've seen a million Figgy's before, while everything Taylor does is cringey in its douchiness.

I think poor old Hannah will take the brunt of this vote. Judging by everyone's faces while she made a meal of it, it's hard not to suspect her whole tribe thinks she's a bit of a loser. Michelle's maybe the one who likes her most but didn't think enough of her to let her know anything before tribal.

With the David/Ken thing my attention has flipped tribes now. One thing I'm fascinated by is if the alpha males on Gen X keep focusing on getting weak David out, or if their male pride makes them want to target Ken, because he's looking pretty dominant right now.
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Old 29-09-2016, 22:58
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I think Michelle's the only really interesting one in that group, though Jay showed some possibilities. But the main focus is on the showmance and I feel like I've seen a million Figgy's before, while everything Taylor does is cringey in its douchiness.

I think poor old Hannah will take the brunt of this vote. Judging by everyone's faces while she made a meal of it, it's hard not to suspect her whole tribe thinks she's a bit of a loser. Michelle's maybe the one who likes her most but didn't think enough of her to let her know anything before tribal.

With the David/Ken thing my attention has flipped tribes now. One thing I'm fascinated by is if the alpha males on Gen X keep focusing on getting weak David out, or if their male pride makes them want to target Ken, because he's looking pretty dominant right now.
I'm on Reddit Survivor and lucked into a Michelle winner pick, so I really enjoyed the last episode. Even with that, I felt as though it was a great episode and really enjoyed the way Michelle turned the tribe on Mari.
Having watched all 32 seasons in 18 months, this is the first one I'm watching live and I'm really enjoying it at the moment and especially with
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Old 30-09-2016, 00:36
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Michaela obviously doesn't like the couple so that reconciliation seemed forced, they want to keep her but she'll be coming after them, probably more so than Mari (who was apparently too smart according to Michelle). No idea how Hannah was persuaded, it was all a bit murky to me.

Sweepstakes seem very popular these days, but I've never liked to depend on chance in picking someone to follow.
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Old 30-09-2016, 13:39
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Michaela obviously doesn't like the couple so that reconciliation seemed forced, they want to keep her but she'll be coming after them, probably more so than Mari (who was apparently too smart according to Michelle). No idea how Hannah was persuaded, it was all a bit murky to me.

Sweepstakes seem very popular these days, but I've never liked to depend on chance in picking someone to follow.
Though it hasn't been highlighted much, Hannah and Michelle were pretty close. In episode 1, they had a scene together plus there was a secret scene where they prayed together.
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Old 30-09-2016, 16:43
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Ah ok I haven't seen bonus scenes. I think it would have been better to have seen a little more of some crucial relationships in the eps, we've already been told probably more than a 100 times about the showmance, which is literally more than enough. A bit more on Hannah-Michelle and Mari-Michelle would have been great to replace a couple of the repeated statements about the showmance.
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Old 30-09-2016, 22:24
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Gutted about the vote. I knew it would happen as soon as Michelle blurted out Mari's name. Figgy was taking too much heat; too obvious that it'd be her.

Disappointed that Hannah caved so easily. Michelle didn't even have the decency to fill her in before tribal, that should've told her everything she needs to know. As for Michaela, she's an idiot. So obviously against the showmance but votes with them.

The episode failed to explain why Mari was targetted over Michaela. Michaela clearly has a problem with Figgy, so for the foursome alliance, getting her out should've been priority. I can only assume that Michelle has a better relationship with Michaela than Mari, so for her own game, wanted to keep her options open.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:05
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I am so repulsed by Figgy. Everything from her screams ANNOYING. Please disappear pre-merge.

So disappointed by the votes from Will Michaela and ESPECIALLY Hannah. What were they thinking?

Poor Mari.

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Gen X is getting more interesting for sure now that David found the idol.

Hottie Ken had speech impediment before?
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Old 06-10-2016, 15:55
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Bye Paul! What a result.

P.S Ken is everything <3
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:05
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Pretty satisfying blindside. Though it felt like the episode kept throwing them under the bus.

Hannah was hilarious yet infuriating at the same time.
And poor Michelle is again left out of being mentioned in the top of the alliance. She might even be bumped down to 5th by Will. I think her move may end up backfiring on her or she'll flip things around again. The episode didn't exactly shower Figgy in compliments so I think the showmance will still get burned in some way. (evil laugh)

Whenever I see the Millennials tribe flag I always read Vanua as Vanilla, which feels quite fitting at the moment to be fair.

I'm seeing it said in places that the Gen X women made a bad move. Hmmm I'm not so sure. Paul's not exactly bringing much and has already collapsed before, plus I wouldn't put it past the men to get rid of Cece and then want to keep David because he's weak and Ken for bringing it in challenges. They were at the guys mercy, now they have a bit more power, just depends what they do with it.
Nice to hear Lucy's voice. Not quite what I was expecting.
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:46
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Figgy annoyed the shit out of me this week yet again. She and Taylor need to go pre-merge (PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN). Cannot stand her face.

Hannah was a bloody idiot and her total incomprehension to STFU was HILARIOUS.

Adam <3 and Ken <3 were just *swoon*
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Old 06-10-2016, 23:53
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I enjoyed that one more than the first two, having so little of the showmance helped. And I was surprised by the blindside, though it was prepared for I thought it was just to increase the suspense. I don't think Cece will last anyway. Hope the guy who was arguing well against the showmance alliance gets his way. Maybe a swap isn't that far off with the inter-tribe visits.
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:06
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The theme is so lame. No one starts every sentence with "I'm a millennial and millennials...."

People don't text anymore, most people say "you" and vinyl is still selling especially with hipsters.
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:38
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And poor Michelle is again left out of being mentioned in the top of the alliance. She might even be bumped down to 5th by Will. I think her move may end up backfiring on her or she'll flip things around again. The episode didn't exactly shower Figgy in compliments so I think the showmance will still get burned in some way. (evil laugh)
I'll start with a disclaimer as Michelle is my Winner's pick on Reddit, but I think she's in a great position at the moment. She has the gratitude of Taylor and Figgy for saving Figs in the last episode, she's close to Jay in general, whilst also being a close ally of Hannah, Will and (seen in a secret confessional this week) Adam. She said in the same confessional that she doesn't trust Figgy either so she's under no illusion of her position in her alliance. I think if the Millennials gain control of the merge, (a pretty likely situation IMO) she'll do really well as she has a strong relationship with pretty well all Millennials expect Michaela and Zeke (both of whom have ostracised themselves from the tribe in some way - Michaela through her argument with Figgy and Zeke by voting in the minority)

Overall I thought this was a worse episode than Love Goggles, mainly because Gen X went to Tribal Council and I find them much less interesting than the Millennials.
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Old 07-10-2016, 13:36
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I find these themed seasons tiresome when they insist on ramming the theme down our throats even though it's all bollocks - this one especially.

Everything they say about millenials thinking they don't have to work hard for anything is obviously ridiculous, given how much more difficult it is for young people to get jobs and progress in their careers since the global recession, not to mention student debt. Actually, it was MUCH easier to walk into jobs 30 or 40 years ago!
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Old 07-10-2016, 23:19
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The whole gen X vs Millennials narrative already got boring 2nd week into the season. The convo about texting was flat out scripted and CRINGEWORTHY.
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Old 08-10-2016, 00:50
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I'll start with a disclaimer as Michelle is my Winner's pick on Reddit, but I think she's in a great position at the moment. She has the gratitude of Taylor and Figgy for saving Figs in the last episode, she's close to Jay in general, whilst also being a close ally of Hannah, Will and (seen in a secret confessional this week) Adam. She said in the same confessional that she doesn't trust Figgy either so she's under no illusion of her position in her alliance. I think if the Millennials gain control of the merge, (a pretty likely situation IMO) she'll do really well as she has a strong relationship with pretty well all Millennials expect Michaela and Zeke (both of whom have ostracised themselves from the tribe in some way - Michaela through her argument with Figgy and Zeke by voting in the minority)

Overall I thought this was a worse episode than Love Goggles, mainly because Gen X went to Tribal Council and I find them much less interesting than the Millennials.
That's good, I've got a little lazy when it comes to catching up on secret scenes, but she seems smart enough to turn things around in her favour. I feel like Figgy/Taylor/Jay would choose eachother over her, so it's good she has other options.
Right now I'm in two opposite minds that she's either going to win or get screwed for over-playing while the others just sit back and chill.
At the moment though I feel like Michaela is the most in danger of screwing herself if she waits too long to make a move. She seems to be in an alliance with almost no strong allies (from what we've seen).
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Old 13-10-2016, 12:48
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Another good episode no doubt, for the challenges and soundbites and action

topless wonder Michaela
Hannah 'how's your idol search going'
"my husband and kids dislike me a lot of times"
"now's the time to find out the chump playin who shouldn't have been playin"
and David played out his strategy, but was it a good one?

So I'm not too sure about the result. Jessica is an idiot, Ken isn't that sensible. David may have sunk himself sadly.

I'd rather the Millennials had gone to tribal to stir up their tribe anyway, as they aren't as interesting. Gen-X are creating the storylines.
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Old 13-10-2016, 14:34
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David's idol play only made sense on the assumption that the tribes aren't going to switch, i.e. he had lined himself up a nice little alliance through that move. Which is now promptly going to get split up. Which means his idol play was totally idiotic.
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Old 13-10-2016, 15:38
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My appreciation for Trainwreck Gen X continues to grow.
Jessica is an hilarious mess but selling out Ken straight-away was dumb. At least poke your so-called alliance mates a bit to test whether they are voting you off. Try guilt-tripping them or see if they avoid eye-contact.

I think David's move was pretty smart if it can give him the numbers, but since last week's move didn't do that at all then it's hard to see this move working so well to unite an alliance together. It's not like he has anything to lose though.

This season has some great characters. Though I'm not sure if Sunday has ever had a confessional, plus it's interesting that the show seems far more interested in Chris over Bret when they're basically the same person except Chris is monotone and just not emotional at all. He could barely muster up a huff at being betrayed.

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