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Designated Survivor (US Pace)
Interesting premise, but I can't see the longevity in this.
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2180402
Also US Pace & UK Pace are the same here, as Netflix UK are putting the episodes up 5 hours after they air on US tv. |
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Just watched the first episode on Netflix, really good start and be interesting to see where they'll go with this.
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I added it to my Netflix list yesterday, I'll probably get round to watching it sometime this weekend.
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Not sure about this, as it's not clear what it's about. I mean, I get that he is thrust into the role of president, etc... but is it then a "west wing" style political drama or a "homeland" style thriller? If it's some weird hybrid of both, then I'm out
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Not sure about this, as it's not clear what it's about. I mean, I get that he is thrust into the role of president, etc... but is it then a "west wing" style political drama or a "homeland" style thriller? If it's some weird hybrid of both, then I'm out
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So is there such job as designated survivor or is it just something made up for the show?
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So is there such job as designated survivor or is it just something made up for the show?
and I'm pretty sure they've got a mechanism in place for the situation where the designated survivor is ALSO killed, along with multiple other ones if the newly elected Presidents keep getting offed. IIUC I'm actually 28 millionth (ish) in line to be the US President. |
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It IS a real thing.
and I'm pretty sure they've got a mechanism in place for the situation where the designated survivor is ALSO killed, along with multiple other ones if the newly elected Presidents keep getting offed. IIUC I'm actually 28 millionth (ish) in line to be the US President. |
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So is there such job as designated survivor or is it just something made up for the show?
I think they are usually, and possibly have to be, a member of the cabinet. Edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_survivor |
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So is there such job as designated survivor or is it just something made up for the show?
He's been a cabinet member for three years and there are only 15 or so people who can be named Designated Survivor including him so you'd have thought he would have been told about the possibility at some point during the last three years. |
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Thought it was a little odd that the character of Tom Kirkman didn't seem to know about it (he asked what it was when he got the phone call).
He's been a cabinet member for three years and there are only 15 or so people who can be named Designated Survivor including him so you'd have thought he would have been told about the possibility at some point during the last three years. |
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I enjoyed this, I hope the quality and ratings keep up.
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Thought it was a little odd that the character of Tom Kirkman didn't seem to know about it (he asked what it was when he got the phone call).
Looks like this series is going to involve a lot of suspension of disbelief. |
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I think they covered this in an episode of The West Wing, where they had a bit of fun with the man picked to miss the event and him acting surprised. So maybe they really do not always know up front.
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Looks like this series is going to involve a lot of suspension of disbelief.
But like I do with all TV shows, I try not to think about all the details, that way I can enjoy it more. |
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Thought it was a little odd that the character of Tom Kirkman didn't seem to know about it (he asked what it was when he got the phone call).
He's been a cabinet member for three years and there are only 15 or so people who can be named Designated Survivor including him so you'd have thought he would have been told about the possibility at some point during the last three years. In one scene where Italia is trying to get into the white house she says she is his aide and he is the designated survivor on duty tonight, or something similar so they may take turns? |
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I think they covered this in an episode of The West Wing, where they had a bit of fun with the man picked to miss the event and him acting surprised. So maybe they really do not always know up front.
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When Secretary of Agriculture Roger Tribbey is picked as the Cabinet member who won't attend the speech, often referred to as the designated survivor, he meets President Bartlet in the Oval Office. As he explains to Tribbey what to do in the event he becomes President, President Bartlet asks him if he has a best friend, if the best friend is smarter than he is, and if he would trust his best friend with his life. Tribbey says "yes" to all three questions. The President responds, "that's your Chief of Staff."
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I remember that now
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He knew about being the designated survivor...he didn't know what was going on out there and that everyone was gone. I can imagine having to make a decision about taking another role elsewhere or being let go then suddenly becoming president would take someone a moment to digest.
In one scene where Italia is trying to get into the white house she says she is his aide and he is the designated survivor on duty tonight, or something similar so they may take turns? No he didn't. I'm on about the Flashback to the morning. He gets a phone call and is told he'll be the Designated Survivor for that evening (prior to this he thought he would be going to the State of the Union). On the phone he asks "What's a Designated Survivor?" so obviously did not know about the protocol before this. |
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Also a little odd that he was chosen despite being on the verge of being fired (surely the would pick someone the President had confidence in) and that after the attack everyone, including his family, goes to the White House which you'd expect to be evacuated and fully searched for other bombs.
But none of the rest of that is odd, in my opinion. The "designated survivor" position is not high prestige. It's something that most people would consider a bit of a paranoid ritual until the moment that's it's needed (which in real life has never happened, obviously). In practice, you wouldn't think of it as picking the next president, but as picking the guy not important enough to be there with all the other important people. Furthermore, the president was firing him because he didn't find it easy working with him, or other petty intra-office politics, which would be much less of a concern for him in the unlikely event that he was dead. It's not some fundamental indictment of the guy's moral character. The state of the union address would be a particular security challenge because of the sheer number of different people passing through. The White House would still be more secure than nearly any other site they could choose. If that was compromised too, then everything is suspect, including whatever transportation methods they would use to get anywhere. If the people responsible were that well connected to infiltrate both places, then they could know exactly what safe houses they might use or routes they might take to get there. There aren't unlimited choices of other places they can easily get to that are kept as secure as the White House. Worst case scenario, if they do lose the secretary of Housing and Urban Development, their day really hasn't gotten significantly worse than when they lost the whole rest of government. Maybe they can try Camp David with the next guy. |
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The question "What's a designated survivor?" was purely so the viewers could be told what one was. It's a very common thing in telly you know. It's called exposition.
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^ what's exposition ?
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The question "What's a designated survivor?" was purely so the viewers could be told what one was. It's a very common thing in telly you know. It's called exposition.
And then when he asks “What’s a Designated Survivor?” I don’t think the question even got answered on screen. |
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The question "What's a designated survivor?" was purely so the viewers could be told what one was. It's a very common thing in telly you know. It's called exposition.
Plus as said by NoEntry2k by the time the question was asked 1. the Viewers had already seen the answer 2.nobody actually answered the question on screen anyway. So a rather poor example of exposition. |
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