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Danny Mac and Oti Mabuse Appreciation Thread
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hannah
29-10-2016
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“Me too. I didn't think that he went that wrong, but am not an expert in dancing.”

Got to admit I didnt really notice the mistakes just praying he gets through to next week
Jennifer_F
29-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I actually really enjoyed their FT tonight, so please can someone who knows about the details of these things please explain just how "terribly wrong" he went in it? To my eye, he stumbled at 53secs and was then back on track at 1:00 and I can't see the "many mistakes throughout" that the judges saw; well, not beyond the usual imperfections that would be expected of a celeb dancer.
Was it the top line? Was there gapping? Genuinely curious, because the hyperbole the judges (and James Jordan...) were using made it sound like an Ed dance, and then they went and gave the dance an ok mark, which I actually thought was a fairish mark (although JJ thought it was scandalously high- idiot).”

I will have another look tomorrow, but from memory he first went wrong when he got the alignment of the 3 step wrong. He should have taken it facing diagonally to wall ready for the curved feather. He took the wrong alignments ( directions) in at least 2 or 3 places.
I beleive he made mention of Oti "pulling" him back on track?
Aside from that though, there was far to much physical effort being put in, rather than a smooth effortless rolling action. Way to much rising through feet, I daresay he is kicking himself right now.
This probably won't make too much sense to most reading this but we both were saying the same thing when Danny was dancing...
dippydancing
29-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I will have another look tomorrow, but from memory he first went wrong when he got the alignment of the 3 step wrong. He should have taken it facing diagonally to wall ready for the curved feather. He took the wrong alignments ( directions) in at least 2 or 3 places.
I beleive he made mention of Oti "pulling" him back on track?
Aside from that though, there was far to much physical effort being put in, rather than a smooth effortless rolling action. Way to much rising through feet, I daresay he is kicking himself right now.
This probably won't make too much sense to most reading this but we both were saying the same thing when Danny was dancing...”

Thank you Sadly, I don't know the technical terms, so if you feel inclined -and have the time- would you mind giving time markers from the YT clip? But I'd understand if you can't I'm happy to remain in ignorant but still-appreciative bliss.
Georgousgeorge
29-10-2016
Awwwwww. Damm Damm...........so disappointed for them. Down the leaderboard and hopefully not in trouble. (never read the spoiler thread).. I really loved the concept... thought Oti was really brave. There was a couple of little moments, and I can see what you mean Jennifer about him dancing it too energetically almost. I think he has so much energy and drive that he needs to rein it in sometimes and calm the technique, (says she who knows nothing about technique) but I can see what you mean.

I could see how disappointed he was.................in some ways, i'm glad he's had a blip......something to work on. I love watching them dance and hope he's back next week.
Georgousgeorge
29-10-2016
I love the band and the singers generally, but didn't like that rendition......I was a bit distracted. I love Hozier......he's from my home town.
notdebbiedingle
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Georgousgeorge:
“I love the band and the singers generally, but didn't like that rendition......I was a bit distracted. I love Hozier......he's from my home town.”

Agree George!!
Hozier's 'Take me to Church' is an absolute modern classic, this version sadly wasn't!!!

Regarding the dance I desperately want to see them perform it again without the error, preferraby in the final!! Thought it had the makings of something really fabulous!!
Olivia_P
30-10-2016
I cannot vote but I am rooting for this fabulous team. Even on their weakest night they look better than many other couples using their best effort. Absolute joy to watch! Without them, it would be a very lackluster SCD final.
edy10
30-10-2016
Poor Danny and Oti . I felt bad for them tonight. I gave them all my votes and I hope quite a few people did too. I love watching them every week, even with the mistakes they remain my favorites .I did love Ed and the judge tonight though
Gill P
30-10-2016
I gave them all my votes, as I do each week.
Jennifer_F
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I actually really enjoyed their FT tonight, so please can someone who knows about the details of these things please explain just how "terribly wrong" he went in it? To my eye, he stumbled at 53secs and was then back on track at 1:00 and I can't see the "many mistakes throughout" that the judges saw; well, not beyond the usual imperfections that would be expected of a celeb dancer.
Was it the top line? Was there gapping? Genuinely curious, because the hyperbole the judges (and James Jordan...) were using made it sound like an Ed dance, and then they went and gave the dance an ok mark, which I actually thought was a fairish mark (although JJ thought it was scandalously high- idiot).”

Yes you are right, but I would go back just a second or two. The problem starts when they dance what we call a change of direction into the corner.This will be the corner, right side of your screen when watching. You will see them hesitate for a beat or two, He then dances from the corner to the centre of the floor,,,a feather step, a ( badly danced) reverse turn and it is here that he forgets the routine its about 50 secs,

From here he is dancing a feather finish, or should have done, where he is dancing forwards, Oti backwards, into a 3 step into the next corner. In earlier posts I mentioned that because of the groups Oti had included, Len would be pleased. In fact I think he mentioned that he was pleased that Claudia had a 3 step !!!
Danny had too but messed it up sadly.

I normally love Dannys dancing but I felt rather uncomfortable thoughout this. I have written a few more details in the Ballroom/Latin questions thread if you are interested.
Gill P
30-10-2016
Thanks Jennifer. It is great to read what actually went wrong. I am sure he will pick himself up, dust himself off and start all over again!
Walter Neff
30-10-2016
It was my least favourite dance from Danny and Oti, but they got 5 votes from me, and I gave one to Greg because he tries so hard, and I love him and Natalie.

I can't wait to see Danny's Charleston, I will be surprised if he doesn't get a least one 10 for that. I have a feeling that it is going to be his best dance yet!
Jennifer_F
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“It was my least favourite dance from Danny and Oti, but they got 5 votes from me, and I gave one to Greg because he tries so hard, and I love him and Natalie.

I can't wait to see Danny's Charleston, I will be surprised if he doesn't get a least one 10 for that. I have a feeling that it is going to be his best dance yet! ”

I agree, it is definitely a dance where he can excel.
Not sure what dances he has left but suspect Samba could a tricky due to the earthy rhythmical action needed.
edy10
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Yes you are right, but I would go back just a second or two. The problem starts when they dance what we call a change of direction into the corner.This will be the corner, right side of your screen when watching. You will see them hesitate for a beat or two, He then dances from the corner to the centre of the floor,,,a feather step, a ( badly danced) reverse turn and it is here that he forgets the routine its about 50 secs,

From here he is dancing a feather finish, or should have done, where he is dancing forwards, Oti backwards, into a 3 step into the next corner. In earlier posts I mentioned that because of the groups Oti had included, Len would be pleased. In fact I think he mentioned that he was pleased that Claudia had a 3 step !!!
Danny had too but messed it up sadly.

I normally love Dannys dancing but I felt rather uncomfortable thoughout this. I have written a few more details in the Ballroom/Latin questions thread if you are interested.”

Even the best dancers on this show had one or 2 messy dances ( some even MORE.....); it happens. If anything, I think that what happened last night endeared Danny even more to some viewers; I think that he will even gain some new fans because it shows that he is not perfect. I know some people complained that every week he says that he struggles but he always delivers; at least now they will see that he DOES struggle; he learn these routines like everybody else; Yes some of it come easy due to his training but it is still a learning process for him.

I saw quite a few people at DS and outside of DS saying that they warmed up to him more tonight.
Gill P
30-10-2016
He has salsa, samba, jive, AT, AS, waltz, tango and Charleston to come! So plenty of scope for high scores.
Jennifer_F
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“He has salsa, samba, jive, AT, AS, waltz, tango and Charleston to come! So plenty of scope for high scores.”


Most definitely.
collaw
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Agree George!!
Hozier's 'Take me to Church' is an absolute modern classic, this version sadly wasn't!!!

Regarding the dance I desperately want to see them perform it again without the error, preferably in the final!! Thought it had the makings of something really fabulous!!”

It actually scares me that they may have to perform that dance again with that appendage between them ( silly me just recalled they can change the way they dance it )
londongirlGre
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“He has salsa, samba, jive, AT, AS, waltz, tango and Charleston to come! So plenty of scope for high scores.”

I agree.
Fairytootoo
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Even the best dancers on this show had one or 2 messy dances ( some even MORE.....); it happens. If anything, I think that what happened last night endeared Danny even more to some viewers; I think that he will even gain some new fans because it shows that he is not perfect. I know some people complained that every week he says that he struggles but he always delivers; at least now they will see that he DOES struggle; he learn these routines like everybody else; Yes some of it come easy due to his training but it is still a learning process for him.

I saw quite a few people at DS and outside of DS saying that they warmed up to him more tonight.”

My first thought was 'at least folks will see he does struggle'
Loved the concept of this, such a shame it didn't work out
hannah
30-10-2016
If through to next week I really hope he gets a fun dance like Charleston or Jive
halfnelson2709
30-10-2016
I really felt for them tonight. Agree with everyone'/ comments and some have picked up my only issue with Danny, that sometimes he over dances or just puts too much power into the moves. I get that some of it is the dance style oti is creating eg with the rumba. But I want to see him do a really soft lyrical dance without powerful strong moves. Anyway I love that oti was so brave with the concept - /she is recognising how talented Danny is and trying to push him. I only hope the errors this week don't put either of them offf pushing things in future

Oh and wow I think the dance selection Danny has left is great. I'm pleased he didn't get charswlron at Halloween as I much prefer a traditional charleston style of outfit not ruined by Halloween dress (poor ore this week!)
Matt&AlionaFan
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“He has salsa, samba, jive, AT, AS, waltz, tango and Charleston to come! So plenty of scope for high scores.”

All being well, the dances that allow lifts will be coming thick and fast as they have not done one yet, but a good mix of dances left.

Personally if they do make it to the final I would not want to see the Foxtrot again as they would still have to wear the Halloween theme costumes and that would distract even more just before Christmas. Don't think I could cope with the rubbish singing either!
edy10
30-10-2016
They won't re-do the foxtrot IF they get to the finals, mostly because of the logistics of it :the theme. Just think Franky and Kevin who desperately wanted to redo their Halloween tango as their favorite dance but couldn't.
I for one, I'm Very glad. I am not a big fan of the foxtrot and I don't wish to see that dance again, hopefully we won't.
Matt&AlionaFan
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“They won't re-do the foxtrot IF they get to the finals, mostly because of the logistics of it :the theme. Just think Franky and Kevin who desperately wanted to redo their Halloween tango as their favorite dance but couldn't.
I for one, I'm Very glad. I am not a big fan of the foxtrot and I don't wish to see that dance again, hopefully we won't.”

We don't usually see a movie week dance again either due to the costumes and staging as it does not work for a final. I think Chelsee & Pasha were the exception to the rule in their final and it looked out of place.
dippydancing
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Yes you are right, but I would go back just a second or two. The problem starts when they dance what we call a change of direction into the corner.This will be the corner, right side of your screen when watching. You will see them hesitate for a beat or two, He then dances from the corner to the centre of the floor,,,a feather step, a ( badly danced) reverse turn and it is here that he forgets the routine its about 50 secs,

From here he is dancing a feather finish, or should have done, where he is dancing forwards, Oti backwards, into a 3 step into the next corner. In earlier posts I mentioned that because of the groups Oti had included, Len would be pleased. In fact I think he mentioned that he was pleased that Claudia had a 3 step !!!
Danny had too but messed it up sadly.

I normally love Dannys dancing but I felt rather uncomfortable thoughout this. I have written a few more details in the Ballroom/Latin questions thread if you are interested.”

Thank you- this is so useful It's Choreography Corner as it should be done, sigh...

Originally Posted by edy10:
“Even the best dancers on this show had one or 2 messy dances ( some even MORE.....); it happens. If anything, I think that what happened last night endeared Danny even more to some viewers; I think that he will even gain some new fans because it shows that he is not perfect. I know some people complained that every week he says that he struggles but he always delivers; at least now they will see that he DOES struggle; he learn these routines like everybody else; Yes some of it come easy due to his training but it is still a learning process for him.

I saw quite a few people at DS and outside of DS saying that they warmed up to him more tonight.”

Yep- been banging on about this since week 2; just because so-called ringers are good doesn't mean they find it easy. In fact for some viewers, making it look easy actually works against them. Can't win eh.
And I've always felt there was more going on with him than just a pretty face- so at least this mishap has shown it to the doubters. Honestly- some people have very little imagination when they say "so-and-so has no personality". If it's not presented to them on a plate a la Rinder/Tameka style they can't see it.
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