Danny is an excellent showman if his Quickstep is anything to go by. He really suits the classic Hollywood Fred & Ginger dances! I'm hoping his Foxtrot will be his breakout dance and the first one not be undermarked!
Danny Mac and Oti Mabuse Appreciation Thread
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I have just been watching Montgomery Clift clips on you tube and can't believe how much Danny looks like him. Does anyone else see the similarity?
Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...”
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...
”
Learning the choreography is the easy part, its learning and applying the technique that is difficult. Without solid technique in place, the dance will always look not so good.
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...”
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...
”
I thought Ian was very hard on Danny in the training clip. It did look quite early training as they were still in basic hold and not full ballroom hold. He was also talking up Louise and Kevin. Interesting!!!
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...”
“Interesting that Ian went in hard on Danny's weaknesses in training on ITT tonight- I wonder if he's doing that to counter the criticisms of when Danny says he finds the training hard and yet always dances well on the show?
Obvs we'll never truly know how hard people find learning it all, but I don't see why a good dancer shouldn't find it hard to learn difficult choreography, which Oti is certainly giving him.
Of course the simple answer to this query would be to see more of the early training, but that ain't ever gonna happen...
”
Yes, Oti has always alluded to the fact that the start of the week is hard, and then as the week goes on, they perfect things. I think Danny has always been honest about whether he finds the dance difficult, or not. The paso was his hardest week. So much technique to get right. The quickstep probably was his favourite so far. I think just because he has musicality and rhythm, people think it's easy for him but he puts a lot of work in during the week to perfect the technique. I'd say all of the celebs are putting an enormous amount of work in. It's such a short space of time to get a routine down.
Originally Posted by Georgousgeorge:
“Yes, Oti has always alluded to the fact that the start of the week is hard, and then as the week goes on, they perfect things. I think Danny has always been honest about whether he finds the dance difficult, or not. The paso was his hardest week. So much technique to get right. The quickstep probably was his favourite so far. I think just because he has musicality and rhythm, people think it's easy for him but he puts a lot of work in during the week to perfect the technique. I'd say all of the celebs are putting an enormous amount of work in. It's such a short space of time to get a routine down.”
“Yes, Oti has always alluded to the fact that the start of the week is hard, and then as the week goes on, they perfect things. I think Danny has always been honest about whether he finds the dance difficult, or not. The paso was his hardest week. So much technique to get right. The quickstep probably was his favourite so far. I think just because he has musicality and rhythm, people think it's easy for him but he puts a lot of work in during the week to perfect the technique. I'd say all of the celebs are putting an enormous amount of work in. It's such a short space of time to get a routine down.”
Also, Oti said that they repeat each bit of the dance, loads of times. I believe Danny when he says that he finds learning the dances hard. Even though he has had dance training, am sure that he wasn't learning loads of different dances in a short amount of time.
Back in the day they used to give the hours that couples danced. They don't now for some obscure reason.
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“Also, Oti said that they repeat each bit of the dance, loads of times. I believe Danny when he says that he finds learning the dances hard. Even though he has had dance training, am sure that he wasn't learning loads of different dances in a short amount of time.”
“Also, Oti said that they repeat each bit of the dance, loads of times. I believe Danny when he says that he finds learning the dances hard. Even though he has had dance training, am sure that he wasn't learning loads of different dances in a short amount of time.”
I don't know what sort of dance training they do in these drama colleges, but I wouldn't say he learnt any sort of ballroom and latin. Must be very difficult to get the technique plus the choreography right in 4 days or so. Whatever of Danny, can you imagine how difficult it is for those celebs that don't have a rhythmic bone in their body!!!!
The foxtrot may look a bit ropey now, but I'm sure by Saturday it will be brilliant (she hopes)!!!
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“Back in the day they used to give the hours that couples danced. They don't now for some obscure reason.”
“Back in the day they used to give the hours that couples danced. They don't now for some obscure reason.”
That's right. I remember that. In a recent interview, Oti said that they start at 10am and finish, I think , around 6. Sometimes going on to 7.30 if they needed to. I'm sure a lot of the other couples are doing the same. Greg is doing loads of hours, I'd say.
Originally Posted by Georgousgeorge:
“I don't know what sort of dance training they do in these drama colleges, but I wouldn't say he learnt any sort of ballroom and latin. Must be very difficult to get the technique plus the choreography right in 4 days or so. Whatever of Danny, can you imagine how difficult it is for those celebs that don't have a rhythmic bone in their body!!!!
The foxtrot may look a bit ropey now, but I'm sure by Saturday it will be brilliant (she hopes)!!!”
“I don't know what sort of dance training they do in these drama colleges, but I wouldn't say he learnt any sort of ballroom and latin. Must be very difficult to get the technique plus the choreography right in 4 days or so. Whatever of Danny, can you imagine how difficult it is for those celebs that don't have a rhythmic bone in their body!!!!
The foxtrot may look a bit ropey now, but I'm sure by Saturday it will be brilliant (she hopes)!!!
”
I agree.
I'm looking forward to Danny and Oti's performance.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Learning the choreography is the easy part, its learning and applying the technique that is difficult. Without solid technique in place, the dance will always look not so good.”
“Learning the choreography is the easy part, its learning and applying the technique that is difficult. Without solid technique in place, the dance will always look not so good.”
I don't think I made myself clear
I didn't have any issue with Danny not looking good -in fact if he had, that would just give his critics even more ammunition- I meant that he clearly struggles at times, so those that poo-pooh him when he says that he finds a dance hard and yet always performs well on the night, should maybe actually believe him when he says he's finding it hard. And Ian pointing out his failings at the start, and how much he therefore improves over the week, actually supports what Danny says.I think I've just over-explained myself now!
But I hope you get my meaning.
I certainly get your meaning. I think the footage Ian sees is from the first day that they train. The training hold gives a clue to this.
I missed ITT so have just caught up on Iplayer, FF to Dannys part.
My opinion is that its not all bad. Danny has a naturally good hold so we don't have to worry about that to much. At this moment, Oti has made him concentrate on learning the steps without the added pressure of maintaining frame. An experienced dancer would never dance in a practice hold but it is quite usual for a complete beginner to do this when learning the steps.
From what I saw here - assume the clip was from Monday or Tuesday so very early in the week - Oti will please Len greatly as I could recognise ( very good sign) the basic steps of Foxtrot, Feather into reverse turn, feather finish into 3 step, curved feather into pivots.
He certainly has the basis of the footwork down, few heels missed but it is really early days. I saw a chasse at the start of the long side of the routine that looked a bit hurried and skippy, feet in chasse should stroke the floor.
That said, after seeing some of the content, I am certain this will be a very good dance with all the hours they have yet to put in.
My opinion is that its not all bad. Danny has a naturally good hold so we don't have to worry about that to much. At this moment, Oti has made him concentrate on learning the steps without the added pressure of maintaining frame. An experienced dancer would never dance in a practice hold but it is quite usual for a complete beginner to do this when learning the steps.
From what I saw here - assume the clip was from Monday or Tuesday so very early in the week - Oti will please Len greatly as I could recognise ( very good sign) the basic steps of Foxtrot, Feather into reverse turn, feather finish into 3 step, curved feather into pivots.
He certainly has the basis of the footwork down, few heels missed but it is really early days. I saw a chasse at the start of the long side of the routine that looked a bit hurried and skippy, feet in chasse should stroke the floor.
That said, after seeing some of the content, I am certain this will be a very good dance with all the hours they have yet to put in.
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“I certainly get your meaning. I think the footage Ian sees is from the first day that they train. The training hold gives a clue to this.”
“I certainly get your meaning. I think the footage Ian sees is from the first day that they train. The training hold gives a clue to this.”
I do like to see the early footage............it gives an indication of how much they have improved by the weekend, although sometimes I don't see the point in Ian critiquing it (is that spelt right!!!!!!
) . His Wednesday warm-up would probably be better with training from Wednesday, but I like to see the struggles first!
Originally Posted by Georgousgeorge:
“I do like to see the early footage............it gives an indication of how much they have improved by the weekend, although sometimes I don't see the point in Ian critiquing it (is that spelt right!!!!!!) . His Wednesday warm-up would probably be better with training from Wednesday, but I like to see the struggles first!”
“I do like to see the early footage............it gives an indication of how much they have improved by the weekend, although sometimes I don't see the point in Ian critiquing it (is that spelt right!!!!!!
) . His Wednesday warm-up would probably be better with training from Wednesday, but I like to see the struggles first!”
I think Ians bit is to perhaps get the viewers to understand the technical side a bit more, rather than be negative on what the celeb is doing. As you say, its good to see the early stages then see the finished result on Saturday. I like the training videos.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I missed ITT so have just caught up on Iplayer, FF to Dannys part.
My opinion is that its not all bad. Danny has a naturally good hold so we don't have to worry about that to much. At this moment, Oti has made him concentrate on learning the steps without the added pressure of maintaining frame. An experienced dancer would never dance in a practice hold but it is quite usual for a complete beginner to do this when learning the steps.
From what I saw here - assume the clip was from Monday or Tuesday so very early in the week - Oti will please Len greatly as I could recognise ( very good sign) the basic steps of Foxtrot, Feather into reverse turn, feather finish into 3 step, curved feather into pivots.
He certainly has the basis of the footwork down, few heels missed but it is really early days. I saw a chasse at the start of the long side of the routine that looked a bit hurried and skippy, feet in chasse should stroke the floor.
That said, after seeing some of the content, I am certain this will be a very good dance with all the hours they have yet to put in.”
“I missed ITT so have just caught up on Iplayer, FF to Dannys part.
My opinion is that its not all bad. Danny has a naturally good hold so we don't have to worry about that to much. At this moment, Oti has made him concentrate on learning the steps without the added pressure of maintaining frame. An experienced dancer would never dance in a practice hold but it is quite usual for a complete beginner to do this when learning the steps.
From what I saw here - assume the clip was from Monday or Tuesday so very early in the week - Oti will please Len greatly as I could recognise ( very good sign) the basic steps of Foxtrot, Feather into reverse turn, feather finish into 3 step, curved feather into pivots.
He certainly has the basis of the footwork down, few heels missed but it is really early days. I saw a chasse at the start of the long side of the routine that looked a bit hurried and skippy, feet in chasse should stroke the floor.
That said, after seeing some of the content, I am certain this will be a very good dance with all the hours they have yet to put in.”
NOW i'm excited for the weekend. Sounds good. If he gets everything right, Len will certainly be happy. Oti is pleasing him every week with her piques and sliding doors!! (Maybe you should do Ian's job Jennifer!
)
Looking forward to ITT Danny & Oti will be on tonight so we should find out what halloween characters they are playing
Originally Posted by hannah:
“Looking forward to ITT Danny & Oti will be on tonight so we should find out what halloween characters they are playing”
“Looking forward to ITT Danny & Oti will be on tonight so we should find out what halloween characters they are playing”
Me too.
Originally Posted by Georgousgeorge:
“NOW i'm excited for the weekend. Sounds good. If he gets everything right, Len will certainly be happy. Oti is pleasing him every week with her piques and sliding doors!! (Maybe you should do Ian's job Jennifer!)”
“NOW i'm excited for the weekend. Sounds good. If he gets everything right, Len will certainly be happy. Oti is pleasing him every week with her piques and sliding doors!! (Maybe you should do Ian's job Jennifer!
)”
Foxtrot is such a technical dance and Oti is very wise concentrating on the steps, then the technique and the way he uses his feet. Should ( in theory) be a lovely rolling through action. It may be a bridge to far, with so little time, but I would love to see him being able to swing through his sides and swing his legs rather than place the feet. But in my eyes, I can see a lot of potential for this routine already. Once he has most of this learned, Oti will then add the frame back in, but I think this is going to be good.
Haven't seen ITT at all so have loved reading these comments
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!
Originally Posted by Fairytootoo:
“Haven't seen ITT at all so have loved reading these comments
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!”
“Haven't seen ITT at all so have loved reading these comments
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!”
Thank you very much.
Originally Posted by Fairytootoo:
“Haven't seen ITT at all so have loved reading these comments
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!”
“Haven't seen ITT at all so have loved reading these comments
Many thanks all
Jennifer your insights are priceless to those of us with limited knowledge, bravo!”
I agree, thanks Jennifer.
Originally Posted by Le Danseur:
“Danny is an excellent showman if his Quickstep is anything to go by. He really suits the classic Hollywood Fred & Ginger dances! I'm hoping his Foxtrot will be his breakout dance and the first one not be undermarked!”
“Danny is an excellent showman if his Quickstep is anything to go by. He really suits the classic Hollywood Fred & Ginger dances! I'm hoping his Foxtrot will be his breakout dance and the first one not be undermarked!”
Originally Posted by Queeniejean:
“I have just been watching Montgomery Clift clips on you tube and can't believe how much Danny looks like him. Does anyone else see the similarity?”
“I have just been watching Montgomery Clift clips on you tube and can't believe how much Danny looks like him. Does anyone else see the similarity?”
Yes, he does suit this style and I think he loves it. (Had to look up Montgomery Clift.........see what you mean........Not that I'm not old enough!!!!!!)
Taylor Lautner?? Got the same boyish grin as Len!!!!
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