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Old 24-09-2016, 10:07
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As others have said, there has never been any hype. From my experience it has mostly been an expectation, and in some sections willingness, of failure.

Though I personally have higher hopes for it than Series 10.
Why would a Who fan want a Who spin-off to fail? Strange.

There was a good point made on here (can't remember the FM sorry) that this could capture a number of YA's who have moved on from Who (too cool for school sort of thing) and if they like it, could return to the 'mother' show. IMO, any addition to the Who Universe is to be welcomed. If it doesn't turn out to be my cup of tea, I'd still want it to do well.
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Old 24-09-2016, 10:09
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Why would a Who fan want a Who spin-off to fail? Strange.
If the premise doesn't interest them in the slightest, they probably hope it goes away to make way for something else. But then it's pretty ingrained in Doctor Who, isn't it?

If you don't like the actor playing The Doctor or the people running the show, you hope they go away until something/someone better comes along. Rather unique like that.

How many posts do you honestly see along the lines of "I hate X/Y/Z... but I hope X/Y/Z is a massive success and stays for years to come."
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Old 24-09-2016, 10:15
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If the premise doesn't interest them in the slightest, they probably hope it goes away to make way for something else.
That's one way of looking at it, I suppose! Still, if a Who spin off crashes and burns, I think they'll be waiting quite a while for another one!
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Old 24-09-2016, 10:58
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That's one way of looking at it, I suppose! Still, if a Who spin off crashes and burns, I think they'll be waiting quite a while for another one!
Absolutely.
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Old 24-09-2016, 11:02
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Fixed

I really don't know where many people think the money comes from for these ideas. They're often very interesting, but when it has to be realised on screen and you have to pay for a whole production team, the actors, the location hiring, the set design, the promotional material, the effects crew, and potentially work the scripts around the canon for the parent show in the event of a spin-off the imaginary bottomless pit of cash just doesn't suffice.
Besides all of which, I still think if the bbc had all the money in the world, they wouldn't do it. It's been said many times when a McGann series is repeatedly suggested by some that the bbc simply wouldn't want a confusing situation where there were two versions of doctor who running at once. To do so would water down the brand and only harm the main show.

You have your on screen time as the doctor, and then, apart from the odd multi doctor story, that's it.

That's one way of looking at it, I suppose! Still, if a Who spin off crashes and burns, I think they'll be waiting quite a while for another one!
This is what annoys me about the whole situation. If it's as bad as it seems, and fails miserably, then rather than just seeing the idea as failed, the bbc will probably take is as proof that there is just no appetite for a who spin off at all, whereas if they'd actually based a spin off around one of the many more interesting or exciting premises available to them, and actually aimed it at the entire who audience rather than just the teen market, then a spin off might have worked.

Although, given the dwindling interest in the main show these days, it makes me wonder whether a spin off at this time will have a chance anyway, good or bad.
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Old 24-09-2016, 13:06
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Firstly there is no hype on the show. Secondly I don't think the show will be successful, don't see it pulling off the British Buffy.
No hype is a bit of an overstatement, on other forums such as Galifrey Base and on Youtube videos I've seen tons of comments about people anticipating Class. Aswell as people who tuned into the livestream. Im not just basing it on this forum and its general opinion on the show. No hype implies that theres none at all which isn't the case.
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Old 24-09-2016, 13:43
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No hype is a bit of an overstatement, on other forums such as Galifrey Base and on Youtube videos I've seen tons of comments about people anticipating Class. Aswell as people who tuned into the livestream. Im not just basing it on this forum and its general opinion on the show. No hype implies that theres none at all which isn't the case.
Fair enough! And of course things tend to pick up a couple of weeks before broadcast of a new series, so I hope (and expect) the BBC to really get behind it. I do like the idea that it's not too long before we get some more of Capaldi onscreen, and am interested to see how things play out, who the Kelly character is and how the Doctor fits into the whole scenario.

Still a glass half full sort of chap (well, about Who anyway!) so hope it's good quality stuff and finds it's audience.
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Old 24-09-2016, 14:46
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Fair enough! And of course things tend to pick up a couple of weeks before broadcast of a new series, so I hope (and expect) the BBC to really get behind it. I do like the idea that it's not too long before we get some more of Capaldi onscreen, and am interested to see how things play out, who the Kelly character is and how the Doctor fits into the whole scenario.

Still a glass half full sort of chap (well, about Who anyway!) so hope it's good quality stuff and finds it's audience.
Still really pleased that Katherine Kelly is in this.
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Old 24-09-2016, 15:29
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At the very least, it deserves a chance like Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures were given.

Right now, it's looking more promising to be honest. Capaldi in the opening episode is a nice touch and it's nice they've confirmed the character names even though we've known them for months now.

Now we just need to see an actual trailer for the series.
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Old 24-09-2016, 17:09
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That's one way of looking at it, I suppose! Still, if a Who spin off crashes and burns, I think they'll be waiting quite a while for another one!
Yeah, look at the gap between K-9 and Company and Torchwood.
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Old 24-09-2016, 18:13
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Yeah, look at the gap between K-9 and Company and Torchwood.
Surprisingly, and I only know cos I just googled it out of interest, K9 and Company got 8.4m viewers! According to wiki Bill Cotton's replacement as Controller of BBC, Alan Hart (never heard of him) didn't like the idea of a series and that was that. How he wasn't convinced just by watching the stylish opening title sequence is frankly beyond me.
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Old 24-09-2016, 18:56
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Curious, why are they buzzing with anticipation? There has literally been no news on the show.
Several regular posters on there have had an interest in it from the beginning, there are a lot of people who've read all of or most of Patrick Ness's books and really rate him as a writer. There's also a group of people who follow all the filming news assiduously and follow both Ness and the cast on Twitter and Instagram and report every scrap of info they see, which has added up to quite a lot over the months. Yes there hasn't been any traditional promo or advertising for it (yet) or a trailer yet but there has been quite a lot of social media buzz (among precisely the demographic it's aimed at, mainly). You could accuse it of being self-referential in that excited people create excitement. But generally by far the majority of the reactions to it over there are positive rather than negative, mainly because they got the message about it being pitched at the Being Human/Misfits market rather than the CBBC market several months before most people seem to have got it (and indeed some people still haven't got it...)

Also there were filming clips on YouTube, a featurette (or an item at least, I forget how long it was) in Empire, a piece in the Mirror ... there has been news here and there. And the cast on their Twitter accounts report that they have been doing a lot of promo work in the last few days so proper promo is imminent, it sounds like.

ETA: Anyway that may or may not amount to a hill of beans, but basically that's why there is cheery atmosphere over there about it (and already a dozen or more threads in the Class-dedicated section).

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Old 24-09-2016, 19:04
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Doctor who spin offs have run their course. The whole point of a spin off is when the main series ends.

We had Torchwood, Sarah Jane, K9 and now this?

Seems a lazy excuse not to give us a series this year.
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Old 24-09-2016, 19:41
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Doctor who spin offs have run their course. The whole point of a spin off is when the main series ends.

We had Torchwood, Sarah Jane, K9 and now this?

Seems a lazy excuse not to give us a series this year.
I don't know why you'd think that. Angel was a spin-off from Buffy that began during Buffy's fourth season. The Lone Gunmen span-off from The X Files during its eighth season. Private Practice span-off from Grey's Anatomy during its third season. A spin-off is just a show that links to another somewhere along the line, there's really no rule about when that has to be. And like all of these Class has really little to do with the production of the main show either - it's certainly not remotely responsible for why Series 10 of Doctor Who has been held back by what amounts to about half a year.
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Old 24-09-2016, 20:45
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Doctor who spin offs have run their course. The whole point of a spin off is when the main series ends.
Did NCIS end and nobody tell me?
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Old 02-10-2016, 12:56
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Although I feel like somehow Amy's Crack would be involved in how these monsters suddenly appear on earth.
Hang on, you saying Karen Gillian's arse is booked for the show?
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Old 02-10-2016, 16:43
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Hang on, you saying Karen Gillian's arse is booked for the show?
LMAO I always pictured that whenever someone said Amy's Crack.
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Old 02-10-2016, 19:24
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What hype?
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Old 03-10-2016, 05:34
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:13
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No hype is a bit of an overstatement, on other forums such as Galifrey Base and on Youtube videos I've seen tons of comments about people anticipating Class. Aswell as people who tuned into the livestream. Im not just basing it on this forum and its general opinion on the show. No hype implies that theres none at all which isn't the case.
A dedicated doctor who site such as galifrey base is only going to be some of the people who are proper who fans who would take an interest anyway, such as would likely be people watching the livestream.

People on this thread keep saying there has been no hype, because hype to most people, means tv adverts, newspaper/magazine ad's, tv interviews with the cast, billboards and generally anything and everything that contributes to a show being one of those things you can't have failed to have heard of before it airs.

With Class, I've seen none of that, and were it not for this forum, i'm not sure I'd even know it existed.

Unless some trailers and serious promotion arrive soon, then the bbc could well have ruined it's chance of success just through a lack of people knowing about it, whether it actually turns out to be a good show or not.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:30
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The least that they could have done was instead of creating a school spin-off, they could have at least done a spin-off with either the 4,5,6,7 and/or 8 Doctor or even all of them.

Guess that is too heartbreaking for them.
Don't you really, deep down, think it might be because it would be a really terrible, awful idea. The youngest actor in that bunch is now in his fifties, the rest all well into their sixties and older. They've had their turns, they're done now. When the Hell will people let it go?
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:37
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Don't you really, deep down, think it might be because it would be a really terrible, awful idea. The youngest actor in that bunch is now in his fifties, the rest all well into their sixties and older. They've had their turns, they're done now. When the Hell will people let it go?
Completely agree. I'd rather see something which lets them have some sort of link to the show in a respectful, dignified way, like the five-ish doctors or the way they handled Tom Baker's appearance in the 50th, than a bunch of guys who now look nothing like doctors 4-7, squeezing into those costumes, and ridiculously trying to pretend they don't look any different.

In truth, I don't think they themselves would want the embarassment of attempting such a thing either, a factor that those who call for such a thing never seem to care about or consider.
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Old 04-10-2016, 02:02
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Don't you really, deep down, think it might be because it would be a really terrible, awful idea. The youngest actor in that bunch is now in his fifties, the rest all well into their sixties and older. They've had their turns, they're done now. When the Hell will people let it go?
I can agree with you on 4-7, but 8 never really had a turn.
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Old 04-10-2016, 03:10
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Still laughing at the wording of the OP in regards to Amy's Crack
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Old 06-10-2016, 04:28
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talking of amy's crack

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/class/n...-class-teaser/
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