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I don't like the new "unwholesome" tone of the show
Grand Dizzy
24-09-2016
No doubt I'm in a small minority, and people will hate me for expressing my opinion, as usually happens, but I just wanted to say that I really do not like The X Factor's new shift in tone towards "unwholesomeness".

I suppose this change was inevitable, since "unwholesome" is the way everything is going lately, and I have all but given up watching modern TV shows because they have become so objectionable. If I want to see something clean and good-natured, I more or less have to stick to the children's channels.

The X Factor (and Xtra Factor) has always been a family show, but last week things moved distinctly outside that boundary, featuring a horrible night time scene of partying and drunkenness. I found it quite grotesque and totally inappropriate for children. What it had to do with a singing competition I am not sure.

If people want to indulge in vice and drunkenness in their private lives that's up to them, but it seems way out of line for the producers to actually supply the contestants with alcohol and encourage them to party - a group which includes 16-year-olds. If I'd have been a contestant I would have walked away at that point.

Perhaps most X Factor viewers appreciate that kind of sordid, drunken, loutish mentality? But surely not everyone does.

And then there was the "wall" segment, which reduced what was a singing competition into a kind of physical "fight". It all came across as an attempt to "spice up" the show by encouraging fighting, rowdiness, carnage and chaos. Highly questionable.

But for me, most disturbing of all is the new-look Xtra Factor. What once was a civilised family show with a good sense of humour, now seems to be a "live drunken party", with people whooping and cheering uncontrollably, and an atmosphere of mischievousness and recklessness. How sad.

As for the two new hosts, in my opinion they are two very odd-looking, questionable characters who seem to me more like rejected contestants than TV presenters. They don't have any hint of respectability about them, which TV presenters surely should. How I miss the Caroline Flack days. Though at least Ant & Dec are still going strong. They are a class act.

Anyway, I just wanted to express my views. Given the way things are going, I suspect that in a couple of years, this year's X Factor will look positively tame. Perhaps in the future all X Factor contestants will be required to be drunk, naked, and beating each other up in order to win? That seems to be what people want today: dirtiness and impurity. I suppose Mr Cowell and company probably shouldn't worry about viewers like me because there won't be many of us left soon.
pjh8
24-09-2016
I'd disagree and argue that this year is the most wholesome it has ever been. There is no nastiness (so far anyway), the judges are respectful and polite towards the rubbish acts and there is a sense of fun and positivity.
worldfree
24-09-2016
the party at bootcamp has always been there,the gay contestants also.
big brother 9
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“I'd disagree and argue that this year is the most wholesome it has ever been. There is no nastiness (so far anyway), the judges are respectful and polite towards the rubbish acts and there is a sense of fun and positivity.”

I would agree.

The xtra factor has gone on to bigger things and changed for the better.... the show on a whole is improving whilst pretty much going back to basics ( with a few new features added ).

I'm enjoying it so far this year
nessie17
24-09-2016
Perhaps Songs of Praise might be a better viewing choice?
shaneomax
24-09-2016
You make a good point about "the wall" obviously planted there to cause friction ala big brother. I dont have a problem with them getting drunk, tbh some of them are soooooo boring they need a bit of alcohol to make it all slightly more interesting to watch.
mimik1uk
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by shaneomax:
“You make a good point about "the wall" obviously planted there to cause friction ala big brother. I dont have a problem with them getting drunk, tbh some of them are soooooo boring WE need a LOT of alcohol to make it all slightly more BEARABLE to watch.”

swapped 3 words for you , hope you dont mind
Blondie X
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“swapped 3 words for you , hope you dont mind ”

Save plenty of booze for tomorrow for the twin horrors of Honey G and the chicken boys.

We can play a drinking game for every time she says 'I say honey, you say G' or each time one of the gruesome twosome pouts with hand on hip which will probably mean most of us phoning inn sick on Monday
mimik1uk
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Save plenty of booze for tomorrow for the twin horrors of Honey G and the chicken boys.

We can play a drinking game for every time she says 'I say honey, you say G' or each time one of the gruesome twosome pouts with hand on hip which will probably mean most of us phoning inn sick on Monday ”

i think we would need to move into a brewery for the evening to have enough alcohol to keep up with that game
shaneomax
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“swapped 3 words for you , hope you dont mind ”

Haha!! Lol thanks dude!!
bluefb
24-09-2016
You're right, OP, I hate you for expressing your opinion.
Lyricalis
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by worldfree:
“the party at bootcamp has always been there,the gay contestants also.”

Yes, and it's not the first year partying has been mentioned, though I don't remember seeing quite so much of it on screen.

The reason the partying was shown was to contrast those who were taking the contest seriously and working hard from those who slacked off the moment there was fun to be had.
Blondie X
24-09-2016
Tbf, having a party in the car park of Ally Pally isn't exactly the depths of debauchery and it all looked a bit sad
big bang theory
25-09-2016
I don't mind the drinking (as long as it's for adults so the show doesn't get into trouble) and I don't mind the show picking more adult themed songs if it wanted to, however the wall segment was just a silly gimmick trying to turn it into TOWIE.
Eva_Coco_May
25-09-2016
They are normal living people like everyone else - drink, drugs, sex, having fun - as long as it isn't shoved down our necks and loads of graphic content who gives a shit what they do so long as they give a performance and work hard - no time for slackers - you quickly weed out who just wants fame and who actually has a passion for music and takes it seriously and grafts though
Singy Thingy
25-09-2016
You're entitled to your opinion. No one will hate you for it, It was a very politely worded post.Personally, I find the show pretty tame, but then, I usually spend most of my time between New York and Key West, soooo....lol

ps-if you think what you see is "unwholesome", you should see what occasionally happens OFF camera
GibsonSG
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“I would agree.

The xtra factor has gone on to bigger things and changed for the better.... the show on a whole is improving whilst pretty much going back to basics ( with a few new features added ).

I'm enjoying it so far this year”

I disagree with you, I liked the informal atmosphere of Xtra Factor. We tried watching a couple of times this year and have given it up.
Saint4805
25-09-2016
Honestly, I think the party was just Cowell and the producers trying to copy Lord Sugar in the Apprentice when they reward the winning team with some event.
Visitor Q
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Grand Dizzy:
“As for the two new hosts, in my opinion they are two very odd-looking, questionable characters who seem to me more like rejected contestants than TV presenters. They don't have any hint of respectability about them, which TV presenters surely should. How I miss the Caroline Flack days.”

That makes me question whether your whole opening post is a wind up.
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