I don't mind her but I think she's very close to crossing the confident/arrogant boundary

But then I never really saw why Misha B was turned into the she devil in her series

the girl who has probably had the most accusations of arrogance this year is the stage school girl who was on first last night

is she "mixed race" ?

or are you just throwing out the race card because you dont like people not liking the same acts you do ?

Yeah I dont think shes arrogant but she has appeared on X factor before which is probably why she looks slightly more at ease than others. I do think she looks like a MMA FIGHTER tho, only a better hairdo can change that lolol

Gamu was also treated shockingly on this forum.

I remember her attitude when she found she wasn't going through last year. Not good.

I get the feeling that she's all sweetness and light when she gets her own way, but not at pleasant if not.

omg learn to accept that people have different opinions and not everyone is going to agree with you. Why come to post on a forum if you cannot accept/handle opposing views??

They are all creeping out of the woodwork now I see.

You're missing my point and this is a thread about Gifty so I mentioned the other girls who had this kind of opinion. Dunno why yo I are getting so touchy about it - also Gifty isn't even my favourite talent this year but she is good! Dt

maybe people are "getting touchy" about it because they dont like being accused of being racist just because they have a different opinion to you

I think it's a generally accepted fact that if you don't support every black or mixed race contestant on the show, you are probably a big old racist. Or something...

Oh my god.... Mimi for one I wasn't even talking to you to weren't even in the thread, I noticed a pattern so I said it I don't sugar coat shit sorry....you just took the comment as me branding everyone a racist which I wasn't but yeah plenty of white contestants have been unliveable to but Gifty isn't white so I listed the other mixed girls because it was relevant

People can hand pick black or mixed race acts to suit their agenda but then conveniently forget acts like Cher, kitty and Katie were also accused of arrogance so let's drop the race card nonsense. On gifty don't find her arrogant at all , a bit average but not arrogant

sorry but "noticing a pattern" and expressing it the way you did IS accusing people of being racist

if you didn't mean that fine but thats what your comments implied

Okay we differ On what I was saying you are reading it in a different context to what I was intending but never mind! I never outright said people on here were racist. my opinion was based on a pattern, I've watched the thread, I've seen the opinions, the girls I listed have all had it, it's just funny because they're all very similar in style and voice and genre so it was just weird how it's always same type of singer, usually those with confidence, not saying your racist or anyone on this thread but there you go make of it what you will,

So have girls who you haven't listed though like Cher kitty and so on . You could probably list just as many similar style acts who never got accused of it so I think you was looking for something that wasn't there

With all due respect actls like Cher and kitty are nothing like gifty in style or in vocals.

No sorry Eva, you can backtrack all you like but it's there in black and white (no pun intended) that you actually said
You then posted a list of black and mixed race acts that you claim have been called arrogant when you could have added just as many white females who have also had the same accusations thrown at them. YOU made it about race, no one else so at least have the courage of your convictions to say thats what you mean rather than feigning innocence when people call you out for playing the race card.

Not saying they was but the arrogance theme applies and like I said there's been ample acts with similar style who haven't been branded arrogant so it's all nonsense really

You're fighting a lost cause there so probably best to admit defeat now before you end up with the huge bumps the rest of us have from banging our heads against brick walls

All due respect Gifty is mixed not white that's why I listed the mixed girls because listing white girls wouldn't be relevant to what I was implying as I saw a pattern, I'm not backtracking I'm explaining what I mean, you just see it different to me but il list them anyway....ah yeah missed off Alisha Bennett to she was called arrogant at one stage.....
Katie
Cher Lloyd
Kitty
Louisa - deffo was called arrogant a few times
Lauren Murray
Janet devlin
Diana vickers

And probably more just listing off top of my head

You can all come at me with you called me a racist or whatever but I didn't so I stand by my comment if you are upset or offended - soz, but just saying how I feel and what I have noticed - I can't be the only one

Looks to me like some on here have a guilty conscience.

There's no need to be so opinionated. You may well feel differently in your thoughts, but equally it's not your right to post such a comment.

If you don't agree with me, then that's fine.

You make no sense. You were clearly implying in your original post that there is a racist undertone as to why singers like Gifty might be disliked, which is your right if you believe that, but you can't claim now you weren't making that point.

Why did you feel the need to list the black female singers who have had a hard time on this forum if you weren't making a point about race?

And now in a desperate attempt to backtrack you are giving us a list of white female singers who were disliked, which completely goes against your original post and actually implies that this forum has a problem with confident females, rather than just black confident females.

This forum has a problem with both, and has done for year IMO.

Okay right, let me try and explain because everyone's getting in a right tit on DS this Sunday afternoon,

So, Gifty is similar to the mixed girls I listed okay - sassy, stage presence, confidence and sure of herself knows who she is ..... She isn't a white contestant agreed? Yes therefore I said there are other girls of mixed who had a hard time on this forum because of the same reasons, then everyone jumped on me - saying I called them a racist when I didn't name any names and I wasn't even speaking to anyone in particular and social media in general - have to ask myself why people are getting so touchy,


So people getting ahead of themselves and speaking to me like shit, because of an opinion so I listed the white contestants though they are completely irrelevant as this is a thread about Gifty the mixed singer.... Is that explained enough for you all?