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Aftermath (5 Star)
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Doctor_Wibble
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by catsitter:
“I loved the bit when the hitchhikers started nitpicking the plot and saying it made no sense.”

All seemed entirely reasonable to me, gung-ho Karen (thanks for reminding as below, I really should have got the names by now...) is off on the myth-chasing, but Joshua who knows all the myths is being smart and heading for the shelter - for me it's the contradictory actions again that helps it work.

Quote:
“I was surprised that Karen didn't give the prayer wheel a try after Jane disappeared, just in case it worked for her.”

On the other hand the disappearing downwards and the scream might have been a bit off-putting - or maybe she remembered stuff about wishes being granted by evil genies.


Oh and I just caught the bit where the mystery guy just arrived and says he is from Tibet, which means all the logical figuring out of who/what he is was already answered if only I had paid attention
Mandark
17-11-2016
How did that woman get the drop on special forces training gung ho Karen? I can't remember the woman's background but surely she shouldn't have had a chance yet her hand to hand and gun skills were more than a match for Karen.

Yeah and agree why did son go off the deep end and try and hang blubbering blonde woman? In fact Dad's punishment of sending them on their way to fend for themselves was the most practical solution. Logic at work for a change!
Verence
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“How did that woman get the drop on special forces training gung ho Karen? I can't remember the woman's background but surely she shouldn't have had a chance yet her hand to hand and gun skills were more than a match for Karen.”

I'm assuming that she was ex-military and thus had some basic training in the same sort of unarmed combat skills.

I must admit I kind of zoned out when she started talking about her dead son when her, Karen and the bald Mormon Buddhist were driving up to the prayer wheel
Doctor_Wibble
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Verence:
“I must admit I kind of zoned out when she started talking about her dead son when her, Karen and the bald Mormon Buddhist were driving up to the prayer wheel”

Ah but these are always the critical details! Especially the ones like that which seem like irrelevances brought up as mostly filler.

That one time at band camp learning the specialist skill, the holiday jobs as a sniper's assistant, batman's car-washer, doing pizza deliveries in Langley... all of these things turn out to be of vital importance
Evil Genius
18-11-2016
"Next week things get serious for Karen and the family as Sparkles the Angry Unicorn chases the family through the ruins of the city pelting them with Battenburg cake."
Straker
18-11-2016
Pic perhaps explains why Heche has those shades glued to her face:

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files...?itok=trcDAdmq
Verence
22-11-2016
Did that family of eejits seriously expect after all that's being going on that their house and land would still be in good condition??
Straker
23-11-2016
Terribly moving moment as genius girl handed the precious shades back so mum could cover up those enhanced hamster-cheeks. Properly choked up there I was....

Bloody Emmys all the way!

It's the bastard love-child of Desolation Alley and Logan's Run....with dragons. Cheap looking, shonkily animated, badly-designed shit dragons.
zwixxx
23-11-2016
Genius Girl - would rather breathe in poison than wear a gas mask cos it would invoke (?) her claustrophobia.

A drinking game for this show should be: take a shot everytime someone does something that make you roll your eyes.
Straker
23-11-2016
.....and you'd be slaughtered even before the titles rolled.
FrostyJim
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zwixxx:
“Genius Girl - would rather breathe in poison than wear a gas mask cos it would invoke (?) her claustrophobia.

A drinking game for this show should be: take a shot everytime someone does something that make you roll your eyes.”

The episode was full of annoying choices.

Claustrophobia vs poison gas
Poison gas outside vs moron "fire lighting" son inside
Annoying "SOLDIER!" mum vs even more annoying volcanologist

The rebel daughter is literally the only semi-likeable character, and even that's stretching it.

Also, morphine didn't turn me into a massive **** when I was on it.
zwixxx
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“.....and you'd be slaughtered even before the titles rolled.”

The game is take a SHOT, not take a whole bottle.
or are you just a lightweight.

Originally Posted by FrostyJim:
“The episode was full of annoying choices.

Claustrophobia vs poison gas
Poison gas outside vs moron "fire lighting" son inside
Annoying "SOLDIER!" mum vs even more annoying volcanologist

The rebel daughter is literally the only semi-likeable character, and even that's stretching it.

Also, morphine didn't turn me into a massive **** when I was on it.”

I think they get a pass on the morphine guy cos he was an hallucination but that's a single pass out of several hundred valid annoyances.

btw: maybe it's just me but if the world went to shit tomorrow and it looked like I could very well die at any time, even if all that happened I wouldn't immediately decide it was ok to make out (and do more) with an underage girl, even if she and her family were totally cool with it. The show looked like it was straying into decidedly icky territory, but they seemed to realize that and quickly slip in that fact that she'd just turned 17 so it would be totally fine and dandy - though they did then immediately kill the guy off in the MOST STUPIDEST MANNER after the last MOST STUPIDEST thing that had happened on the show.

And the whole - let them go so they can burn to death thing. The Dad was portrayed as [insert big words here], kinda like he took the moral high ground, killing is wrong, hanging would be murder so let nature deal with them (or something like that). Fooey I say. The son decided she deserved death, so just shoot her and be done with it. If you're going to kill someone (in a post apocalyptic world) just accept your decision and do it, don't portray yourself as some kinda saint on a moral high ground - like Batman's " I'm not gonna kill ya, but that don't mean I have to save you" to Ra's on that train (iirc). Or was the Dad being vicious, deliciously evil, knowing that burning to death would be long and painful and much more excruciating than a hanging ?
the-master
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zwixxx:
“The game is take a SHOT, not take a whole bottle.
or are you just a lightweight.



I think they get a pass on the morphine guy cos he was an hallucination but that's a single pass out of several hundred valid annoyances.

btw: maybe it's just me but if the world went to shit tomorrow and it looked like I could very well die at any time, even if all that happened I wouldn't immediately decide it was ok to make out (and do more) with an underage girl, even if she and her family were totally cool with it. The show looked like it was straying into decidedly icky territory, but they seemed to realize that and quickly slip in that fact that she'd just turned 17 so it would be totally fine and dandy - though they did then immediately kill the guy off in the MOST STUPIDEST MANNER after the last MOST STUPIDEST thing that had happened on the show.

And the whole - let them go so they can burn to death thing. The Dad was portrayed as [insert big words here], kinda like he took the moral high ground, killing is wrong, hanging would be murder so let nature deal with them (or something like that). Fooey I say. The son decided she deserved death, so just shoot her and be done with it. If you're going to kill someone (in a post apocalyptic world) just accept your decision and do it, don't portray yourself as some kinda saint on a moral high ground - like Batman's " I'm not gonna kill ya, but that don't mean I have to save you" to Ra's on that train (iirc). Or was the Dad being vicious, deliciously evil, knowing that burning to death would be long and painful and much more excruciating than a hanging ?”

It was already mentioned previously that she was 16. So she was already legal. So what's your point exactly?
Vicky0uk
23-11-2016
There are US states where the age of consent is above 16 so she'd be very underage esp wrt a 28 year old. It's 18 in California.

but I got a bit confused again. When one of the girls mentioned that she'd noticed time seemed to be passing at different rates (e.g. the speed at which the relationship betw genius girl and soldier boy developed); was she joking and making a comment pointing to the poor writing and plot/character development or was she serious?
Corwin
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky0uk:
“There are US states where the age of consent is above 16 so she'd be very underage esp wrt a 28 year old. It's 18 in California.

but I got a bit confused again. When one of the girls mentioned that she'd noticed time seemed to be passing at different rates (e.g. the speed at which the relationship betw genius girl and soldier boy developed); was she joking and making a comment pointing to the poor writing and plot/character development or was she serious?”

I think they were actually being serious about that (10 days had passed for Dana and family while Briana said it was months for her).

It will probably never be mentioned again though

Or maybe we'll have them meet up with people they met before (the few still alive) and find them to be 20 years older or something.
zwixxx
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by the-master:
“It was already mentioned previously that she was 16. So she was already legal. So what's your point exactly?”

I thought 16 WAS underage in America, thus her relationship with the 28 year old = icky.
Corwin
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zwixxx:
“I thought 16 WAS underage in America, thus her relationship with the 28 year old = icky.”

Depends on the State.

Washington State where this is set the age is 16.
JDF
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zwixxx:
“I thought 16 WAS underage in America, thus her relationship with the 28 year old = icky.”

Originally Posted by Corwin:
“Depends on the State.

Washington State where this is set the age is 16.”

One thing to remember it's Armageddon and there's no more Law and Order.
zwixxx
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by JDF:
“One thing to remember it's Armageddon and there's no more Law and Order.”

Sure, if suddenly, everyone in world vanished apart from me, I'd be jaywalking to my hearts content, and playing loud music after 11pm in my Council Flat (). But I wouldn't be hunting down the neighbourhood's cats and disbatching them with a big mallet. If all that was stopping that 28 yo from getting it on with a youngster was the law then = icky. But since she was 17 then this is all moot, even though she looks about 13. Just wondering how long after they met did he pop the "but anyway, so how old ARE you" question.
Doctor_Wibble
23-11-2016
There's definitely something about apocalypsi that makes geniuses stupid and turns regular people into morons. Yes, I want to open the door so I'll start bashing the 'close the effing door' emergency button and randomly flip some switches in the hope that it will reverse the polarity and open instead and *then* go and RTFM before deciding that's too difficult and just burn it. Lucky the place didn't have ten years' supply of air, that could have been burning a long time, or the sprinklers might have gone off...

Anyway, so last episode they sent the two interlopers off to die in the burning ash-cloud, but were absolutely fine hiding under the RV in the middle of it? And this after the girl heard the dragon and decided instead of running towards the shelter even faster it would be better to stop and panic out in the open!

Crappy thing to do though, leaving their friend/neighbour behind to shoot her own husband.
And I don't get the "let's go home" bit, were they thinking it's all over or just forgetting all the loons rampaging about who seem to have vanished now?

Originally Posted by JDF:
“One thing to remember it's Armageddon and there's no more Law and Order.”

Tricky one, can we do that? It's a TV show not a film, are you giving it excessive grandeur there or were you thinking of The Musical and therefore subconsciously turning it into a book...?
zwixxx
23-11-2016
I forget about them going home, seeing the outside was screwed and leaving. Personally I'da gone INSIDE to see if there was anything salvageable cos I very much doubt they took EVERYTHING of value when they first left. This continues to be a show I want to like but the characters keep on acting so darn stupid.
As for the "here's a gun for ya" wifey. I was expecting to here a second gunshot cos, seriously, what did the family think the lady was going to do next. Why'd they just leave here, weren't they neighbors ?
catsitter
23-11-2016
I thought that the hitchhikers' objection to going into the shelter was that it would be full of people and there wouldn't be enough air to breathe, but it actually seemed to be empty apart from Matt and Brianna.

I thought this was the worst episode so far.
zwixxx
23-11-2016
iirc they counted the number of people and concluded it was too many to survive in the bunker. That number being such they'd use up all the oxygen before it being safe for them to go back outside.

Then 3 of the party leave so THEY SHOULDAE REDUN THEIR DAMN CALCULATIONS. And then the 2 leave the bunker after what seemed like a really short time, poison gas dissipating super quickly . So basically the hitchiker sucked at maths... so fkm.
Verence
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zwixxx:
“ I forget about them going home, seeing the outside was screwed and leaving. Personally I'da gone INSIDE to see if there was anything salvageable cos I very much doubt they took EVERYTHING of value when they first left. This continues to be a show I want to like but the characters keep on acting so darn stupid.
As for the "here's a gun for ya" wifey. I was expecting to here a second gunshot cos, seriously, what did the family think the lady was going to do next. Why'd they just leave here, weren't they neighbors ?”

I was expecting the neighbour woman to be a slightly less whacked out Feverhead who would try to shoot Soldier Mum the moment she handed her the gun.
Doctor_Wibble
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Verence:
“I was expecting the neighbour woman to be a slightly less whacked out Feverhead who would try to shoot Soldier Mum the moment she handed her the gun.”

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