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Week 2: Song and Dance Discussion.
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JohnStannard
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by NicPlays:
“I think Sax would be better for a Cha Cha Cha, but I think the song suits Anastacia!”

yes also Id say for Lesley perhaps perhaps perhaps is a Tango so how there going to speed it up for a Cha-Cha Ive no idea
daziechain
27-09-2016
Love the INXS song and wanted it last year for Jay. They must be reading this forum (though not quickly enough!! ) Oti and Danny will be great I think.
Oh God .... knew we'd get a 'Jump' song. Hate that one in particular and hate 'Marvin Gaye' (the song ... not the man obvs.) Like the Alicia Keys song and the Cee-Lo Green. The rest .... meh!
bendymixer
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“yes also Id say for Lesley perhaps perhaps perhaps is a Tango so how there going to speed it up for a Cha-Cha Ive no idea”


perhaps when played as a tango is meh

Doris Day's version was in between a rumba and cha and we use the pussycat dolls version as a cha at the school often it will not need to be altered at all
bendymixer
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Love the INXS song and wanted it last year for Jay. They must be reading this forum (though not quickly enough!! ) Oti and Danny will be great I think.
Oh God .... knew we'd get a 'Jump' song. Hate that one in particular and hate 'Marvin Gaye' (the song ... not the man obvs.) Like the Alicia Keys song and the Cee-Lo Green. The rest .... meh!”

will be interesting to see what oti does with the VW am not convinced re the track
VicsMum
27-09-2016
A. Tango. To. Jump.

Speechless...
Phalaris
27-09-2016
I suppose "Jump" was inevitable. At least it's out of the way, although I don't envy Natalie having to set a tango to that.
kirbyreed
27-09-2016
melvin seems to be being stitched up. first of all we had janette's awful choreography that barely let him do anything last week and now we have a tango to an m people song? it's a shame because i think he is one of the better natural dancers there but they are not making it easy for him.
VicsMum
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“perhaps when played as a tango is meh

Doris Day's version was in between a rumba and cha and we use the pussycat dolls version as a cha at the school often it will not need to be altered at all”

According to my dad (who was a good dancer back in his day) the original Doris Day tune is a classic bolero.
GoinGaga
27-09-2016
Hmm, will have too look up some of the songs but from the ones I know I'm not mad on the choices this week. One or two good ones but I do wish whoever chooses them would use a bit more imagination at times.
StrictlyRed
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“will be interesting to see what oti does with the VW am not convinced re the track”

If you listen to the Paloma Faith cover you may see it more - I know lots of people don't like that version, but I do.
bendymixer
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“According to my dad (who was a good dancer back in his day) the original Doris Day tune is a classic bolero.”


yes it is well done him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh0Smri2DxQ
bendymixer
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“If you listen to the Paloma Faith cover you may see it more - I know lots of people don't like that version, but I do.”

like the track - just the wrong bpm hopefully they will sort that
Doghouse Riley
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“If you listen to the Paloma Faith cover you may see it more - I know lots of people don't like that version, but I do.”

There's more sex in this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yvclzc4u6g

She can sing it live too. (A lot can't)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOQefqwajxM
daziechain
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by Phalaris:
“I suppose "Jump" was inevitable. At least it's out of the way, although I don't envy Natalie having to set a tango to that.”

Yes bad enough but for a tango. It's just not suitable.
I like the INXS song for a VW. When you listen to it you can hear the tune swirling and twirling around ... it sweeps along.
Don't let me down Oti
Ann_Dancer
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by dancing.queen:
“It's sort of a very twee Foxtrot song so I imagine it'll be a Foxtrot AS.”

It's a dismal dull foxtrot. Horrible and repetitive with no swing. Why do producers assume that anything in 4/4 time can be a foxtrot? They seem to have no feel for the dance.

At least Lesley and Anton have a safe and suitable choice for their cha cha, and they might go slightly sub tempo I suspect.

The Alma Cogan Banjo song for Katya and Ed sounds ok for a charleston. That's My Baby is probably ok too

Isn't Rock around the Clock a slower tempo jive?
MaggieMcGee
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyEastend:
“This is it guys:

Anastacia and Brendan will be dancing the Salsa to 'Sax' by Fleur East
Claudia and AJ will be dancing the Waltz to 'You Light Up My Life' by Whitney Houston
Daisy and Aljaz will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Forget You' by Cee-Lo Green
Danny and Oti will be dancing the Viennese Waltz to 'Never Tear Us Apart' by INXS
Ed and Katya will be dancing the Charleston to 'The Banjo's Back in Town' by Alma Cogan
Greg and Natalie will be dancing the Tango to 'Jump' by Van Halen
Judge Rinder and Oksana will be dancing the American Smooth to 'Marvin Gaye' by Charlie Puth ft. Meghan Trainor
Laura and Giovanni will be dancing the Waltz to 'If I Ain't Got You' by Alicia Keys
Lesley and Anton will be dancing the Cha Cha to the Pussycat Dolls' version of 'Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps'
Louise and Kevin will be dancing the Viennese Waltz to the kd lang version of 'Hallelujah'
Melvin and Janette will be dancing the Tango to 'Moving On Up' by M People
Naga and Pasha will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Fool In Love' by Tina Turner
Ore and Joanne will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Hot Stuff' by Donna Summer
Tameka and Gorka will be dancing the Charleston to 'Yes Sir, That's My Baby' to Firehouse Five Plus Two
Will and Karen will be dancing the Jive to 'Rock Around The Clock' by Bill Haley & His Comet
s”

These two have the best songs. I like the INXS song that Danny and Oti have as well.
MaggieMcGee
27-09-2016
This is one of my favourite versions of Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps aka Quizas, Quizas, Quizas -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsTU5CuQYc

I hear a rumba.
Monkseal
27-09-2016
I hope Naga has the swagger to pull off Fool In Love, but I'm not seeing it. Other than that the V. Waltzes probably have the best of it, music choice wise. Both popular songs that fit the music and which don't feel like overdone Strictly Style choices in the way that something like "Hot Stuff" or the Waltzes do (MORE BLOODY WHITNEY). The tango choices remain, as ever these days, horrific.
VicsMum
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“yes it is well done him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh0Smri2DxQ”

A Brazilian video, how nice! Yes, bolero is taught as basic Ballroom down those parts.
dizzie
28-09-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“perhaps when played as a tango is meh

Doris Day's version was in between a rumba and cha and we use the pussycat dolls version as a cha at the school often it will not need to be altered at all”

I just remember the great rumba scene from Strictly Ballroom, with this song. I can see how a slightly altered beat (i.e. the Pussycat Doll's version) would make a great (if slow) cha cha - but very suitable for Lesley. Good song choice, as is Will's - can hardly believe that old chestnut has never been used for a jive on this show. Absolutely perfect 50's jive theme, IMO. Can't stand the Marvin Gaye song, but I can see how it has a very simple to follow beat for a slightly more complex dance than just hip grinding, as per Judge Rinder's last dance! I suspect we'll see the limitations of his ability in this dance!

However, overall a decent bunch of song choices - except for the perennial inability to find decent tango songs! Actually, my favourite non-traditional tango song ever used, was in possibly one of the worst scored tangos ever(!) - Kate Garraway and Anton danced to 'They' by Jem. I seriously want someone to use that for a ballroom tango again (preferably someone who can score over 20 points for it!) - but it's an amazing, amazing song for that dance.
katt
28-09-2016
Melvin and Janette will be dancing the Tango to 'Moving On Up' by M People

really
aggs
28-09-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I hope Naga has the swagger to pull off Fool In Love, but I'm not seeing it. Other than that the V. Waltzes probably have the best of it, music choice wise. Both popular songs that fit the music and which don't feel like overdone Strictly Style choices in the way that something like "Hot Stuff" or the Waltzes do (MORE BLOODY WHITNEY). The tango choices remain, as ever these days, horrific.”

I think this year, with the potential to have so many celebs around the same standard for much of the time, the Tango and its choreo/music choices seems like a good one to get out the way early doors.
bendymixer
28-09-2016
Originally Posted by dizzie:
“I just remember the great rumba scene from Strictly Ballroom, with this song. I can see how a slightly altered beat (i.e. the Pussycat Doll's version) would make a great (if slow) cha cha - but very suitable for Lesley. Good song choice, as is Will's - can hardly believe that old chestnut has never been used for a jive on this show. Absolutely perfect 50's jive theme, IMO. Can't stand the Marvin Gaye song, but I can see how it has a very simple to follow beat for a slightly more complex dance than just hip grinding, as per Judge Rinder's last dance! I suspect we'll see the limitations of his ability in this dance!

However, overall a decent bunch of song choices - except for the perennial inability to find decent tango songs! Actually, my favourite non-traditional tango song ever used, was in possibly one of the worst scored tangos ever(!) - Kate Garraway and Anton danced to 'They' by Jem. I seriously want someone to use that for a ballroom tango again (preferably someone who can score over 20 points for it!) - but it's an amazing, amazing song for that dance.”

Cha's tend to be played too fast at times imo but teaching wise I find the pussycat doll track a good speed - so should be ok for Lesley. I loathe Rock around the clock as a Jive as I find the timing of the originnal track off - just too slow for jive - though I use it for rock and roll all the time in fact this track is one of my junior rock and roll classes favourite.

that track is not bad for a tango - that dance is probably the worst one for music choices on the show
Ann_Dancer
28-09-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“Cha's tend to be played too fast at times imo but teaching wise I find the pussycat doll track a good speed - so should be ok for Lesley. I loathe Rock around the clock as a Jive as I find the timing of the originnal track off - just too slow for jive - though I use it for rock and roll all the time in fact this track is one of my junior rock and roll classes favourite.

that track is not bad for a tango - that dance is probably the worst one for music choices on the show”

Yes, exactly. We used to play it when I was learning a routine. I like it but would have expected Will to do something more uptempo and for it to be saved for someone like Ed say.
jiroos
28-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyEastend:
“
Anastacia and Brendan will be dancing the Salsa to 'Sax' by Fleur East
Claudia and AJ will be dancing the Waltz to 'You Light Up My Life' by Whitney Houston
Daisy and Aljaz will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Forget You' by Cee-Lo Green
Danny and Oti will be dancing the Viennese Waltz to 'Never Tear Us Apart' by INXS
Ed and Katya will be dancing the Charleston to 'The Banjo's Back in Town' by Alma Cogan
Greg and Natalie will be dancing the Tango to 'Jump' by Van Halen
Judge Rinder and Oksana will be dancing the American Smooth to 'Marvin Gaye' by Charlie Puth ft. Meghan Trainor
Laura and Giovanni will be dancing the Waltz to 'If I Ain't Got You' by Alicia Keys
Lesley and Anton will be dancing the Cha Cha to the Pussycat Dolls' version of 'Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps'
Louise and Kevin will be dancing the Viennese Waltz to the kd lang version of 'Hallelujah'
Melvin and Janette will be dancing the Tango to 'Moving On Up' by M People
Naga and Pasha will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Fool In Love' by Tina Turner
Ore and Joanne will be dancing the Cha Cha to 'Hot Stuff' by Donna Summer
Tameka and Gorka will be dancing the Charleston to 'Yes Sir, That's My Baby' to Firehouse Five Plus Two
Will and Karen will be dancing the Jive to 'Rock Around The Clock' by Bill Haley & His Comets”

This is the one which jumped out at me - for EVERY wrong reason!

Potential dance-off for Melvin methinks...
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