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Would you have preferred to see Jay in this year's line-up instead? |
| View Poll Results: Jay - Class of 2015 or 2016? | |||
| Class of 2015 |
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49 | 69.01% |
| Class of 2016 |
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22 | 30.99% |
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Its funny how we "box" people isn't it:
Anton's useless at Latin and doesn't take anything serious, Aliona is "God" and can do no wrong, Janette is a useless teacher, Natalie is amazing & wonderful, Brendan is moody and not bothered etc... |
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You can't rewrite history. If you had Jay this year, you wouldn't have his partnership with Aliona, so the concept is not one that can actually exist. So many other things would also be different.
Jay won. Anyone unhappy with that can't change that - except in their imagination. If Jay was paired with Aliona this year, he might win - I don't see any reason why not. Jay has natural abilities for dancing. That's not an unfair advantage - he was born that way. |
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You can't rewrite history. If you had Jay this year, you wouldn't have his partnership with Aliona, so the concept is not one that actually exist. So many other things would also be different.
Jay won. Anyone unhappy with that can't change that - except in their imagination. If Jay was paired with Aliona this year, he might win - I don't see any reason why not. Jay has natural abilities for dancing. That's not an unfair advantage - he was born that way. |
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If Jay was paired with Aliona this year, he might win - I don't see any reason why not.
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You can't rewrite history. If you had Jay this year, you wouldn't have his partnership with Aliona, so the concept is not one that actually exist. So many other things would also be different.
Jay has natural abilities for dancing. That's not an unfair advantage - he was born that way. And no wonder last year was wrapped up so quickly. Being born that way meant it was in the stars that one day he would win a popular dance competition hands down! ![]() Quote:
I would like to have seen Aliona with a Michael Vaughan type, a journeyman. She either had contenders or complete no hopers. Not really her fault of course.
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I think this is probably true. Sometimes something just clicks and magic happens (of course not for everyone watching, but for a majority).
It was as you say the combination of all the factors listed above. I don't think he was light years ahead of the other girls in terms of ability, 😂 ) but of course I didn't get the 'magic' bit myself - not to say they didn't have it of course (as the majority people seemed to think he did).
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Also he had some training, that helps as well. No slight on him as that happens every year.
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The fact that this is hypothetical is not lost on anyone. And though that is the nature of this poll, the supposition you detail above is a correct one (ie IF he was partnered with Aliona this year).
BIB, surely, by your reasoning, Aliona made very little difference to his win due to the fact that he had "natural abilities". Therefore, he would likely have won this year in Aliona's absence, being born the way he was an' all? |
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I loved Anita but what about his fellow semi-finalists Kellie & Georgia? Why would Jay not being in that line-up catapult Anita over those two?
For me, Georgia would have won in the absence of Jay. ![]()
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I am glad Jay was in 2015 because I would have to choose between him an. I think Anita would have won last year if it wasnt for Jay.
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Chuffed that scd got Jay in last year instead of this year simply because I don't think Aliona would have sticked around another extra year. She is the reason why I watch strictly so her being paired with a guy who looked so nervous during the launch show made me feel excited for the journey ahead and for their supporters it was quite a journey.
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Chuffed that scd got Jay in last year instead of this year simply because I don't think Aliona would have sticked around another extra year. She is the reason why I watch strictly so her being paired with a guy who looked so nervous during the launch show made me feel excited for the journey ahead and for their supporters it was quite a journey.
For me it was one of those random things where the partnership clicks. If Aliona was still here and paired with Will, Danny or Ore I would of course support them, but I doubt they'd capture me as a partnership the way J&A did. |
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I'd like to see jay every year!
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I'd like to see jay every year!
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It's a "no" here, for the rather personal reason that last Autum/early Winter was a sad and difficult time for me and seeing Jay every week on Strictly and ITT made everything just that little bit easier ...
It felt like magic and for me it wasn't the JIVE but the Waltz on Week 2 is when they captured my heart |
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if neiter was an option then I would've gone that but I went 2015
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Same! However despite starting last year as an Aliona fan I definitely became a fan of Jay too, which didn't happen with Harry and Matt, although I liked them both well enough. I've always loved her "whacky choreography" but Jay really was her perfect partner.
For me it was one of those random things where the partnership clicks. If Aliona was still here and paired with Will, Danny or Ore I would of course support them, but I doubt they'd capture me as a partnership the way J&A did. |
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Agree for me Jay made a difference to strictly due to his personality he was endearing something I haven't seen in past strictly contestants, they were either loud and in your face or just hard to connect with. Aliona I feel made a difference to strictly as whole, her choreography and teaching was genius and refreshing something that I thought the show lacked, Artem was also a pro who I liked but not loved lol his choreo was different and actually impersonated what the dances should look like. Aliona produced for me the most memorable routines from Matt bakers samba, Harry's vw, AT to their perfect quickstep now she's done it again very recently with Jay providing us viewers with their magical routines.
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I think the Chunky Monkey would struggle in this years line up.
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Also he had some training, that helps as well. No slight on him as that happens every year.
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I think the Chunky Monkey would struggle in this years line up.
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if neiter was an option then I would've gone that but I went 2015
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Surely if you are born with the natural ability to dance you'd have tried that before your 25th year?
Look who the dance patron is. But I doubt he did Latin or Ballroom there. If he had he wouldn't have been on the show.
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If he was in this years I don't think we would've won. He was good but there's better dancers this year
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if neiter was an option then I would've gone that but I went 2015
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I'm indifferent to Jay. I neither like or dislike him, which means he did not wow me last year for better or worse.
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) but of course I didn't get the 'magic' bit myself - not to say they didn't have it of course (as the majority people seemed to think he did).
