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Old 29-09-2016, 23:07
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Would Holly had suffered at all? She looked very peaceful when Moira went to her room, like she just went into a long deep sleep.

What about her last few minutes would she of Struggled at all or wouldn't she of felt anything??
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:12
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I nearly died of an unintentional overdose at 17 years old (I was at a Halloween party and I did a lot of stupid things that night, which I deeply regret), in my experience it felt like my chest was being taken out of my body, it wasn't exactly painful though. It was just a really strange feeling and it's hard to describe, I then fell unconscious so I don't remember anything after that. I think different people react differently to it though.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:14
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Would Holly had suffered at all? She looked very peaceful when Moira went to her room, like she just went into a long deep sleep.

What about her last few minutes would she of Struggled at all or wouldn't she of felt anything??
We don't know if it was drugs that killed her though.

I have depression and a few years ago it was so bad I took an overdose. All it did was make me violently sick for about 2 hours. But everyone is different and every drug is different.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:16
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I nearly died of an unintentional overdose at 17 years old (I was at a Halloween party and I did a lot of stupid things that night, which I deeply regret), in my experience it felt like my chest was being taken out of my body, it wasn't exactly painful though. It was just a really strange feeling and it's hard to describe, I then fell unconscious so I don't remember anything after that. I think different people react differently to it though.
That's s awful! I hope you're re ok now?
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:18
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That's s awful! I hope you're re ok now?
I am okay now, I never went near the stuff again, it didn't turn into an addiction, so I guess I was one of the lucky ones. This ED storyline has hit close to home though.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:20
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We don't know if it was drugs that killed her though.

I have depression and a few years ago it was so bad I took an overdose. All it did was make me violently sick for about 2 hours. But everyone is different and every drug is different.
Oh Andy, you' ve really been through the mill
As for Holly, it's all be treated as an unexplained death won't it?
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:23
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I am okay now, I never went near the stuff again, it didn't turn into an addiction, so I guess I was one of the lucky ones. This ED storyline has hit close to home though.
It' s just so sad. I really hoped Holly would be ok.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:24
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From my experience OD'ing once it was almost pleasant.

This isn't a recommendation and I did not state which drug in particular it was
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:29
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Oh Andy, you' ve really been through the mill
As for Holly, it's all be treated as an unexplained death won't it?
Thanks GD - I'll never do it again. I know a lot of people complain about the NHS but the support I'm getting from them for my MH stuff is brilliant - I know I'm lucky there. I suspect you're right about Holly - I think that drugs wrapper was a red herring, it was just too obvious.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:30
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It would have been painless.
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:38
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Thanks GD - I'll never do it again. I know a lot of people complain about the NHS but the support I'm getting from them for my MH stuff is brilliant - I know I'm lucky there. I suspect you're right about Holly - I think that drugs wrapper was a red herring, it was just too obvious.
NHS staff on the whole are brilliant, there's s just not enough of them, but I've got a lovely CPN and GPs
I don't know if it is a red herring or not, but I hope if she didn't die from the drugs that it's s natural causes and they don't turn it into a whodunnit!
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Old 29-09-2016, 23:44
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From my experience OD'ing once it was almost pleasant.

This isn't a recommendation and I did not state which drug in particular it was
I love the disclaimer You're ok, that's the main thing
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Old 30-09-2016, 00:32
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I love the disclaimer You're ok, that's the main thing
I OD'd in the toilets of a campsite in the Lake District. Not my finest moment
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Old 30-09-2016, 01:02
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Oh Andy, you' ve really been through the mill
As for Holly, it's all be treated as an unexplained death won't it?
They'll be a post mortem which should clarify cause of death. There is always a post mortem for any unexplained, sudden death. They wouldn't just assume it was drugs, even with evidence around. After all it could have been placed there to disguise a murder like suffocation.

Not that I think that has happened here.
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Old 30-09-2016, 02:34
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Holly's previous experience with overdosing when Pete found her looked pretty messy, so I'm not sure. The window being wide open looked odd to me, Moira didn't seem concerned by it when she first went into the room to give Holly her drink. Are we to assume that she climbed through the window after getting the drugs and went to go to bed without changing clothes or taking her make up off? When Moira walked by the house, past the open window, there didn't seem to be anything for Holly to jump down onto, or climb down with, but then again, I'm sure there are ways people wouldn't normally think of.

The episodes were great though, it kind of reminded me of when Lucy was found in Eastenders, except that they were able to keep this a secret. I like the mystery surrounding Holly's death too, like the possibility of it not being an overdose, or if it was an overdose than what triggered Holly to relapse again. Jai seemed perfectly happy, so everything clearly went well as far as he was concerned.

I also liked the continuity in the scenes with Megan and Brenda, remembering that they've had to bury their children and Vanessa running home to see Johnny. Also Cain being overprotective of Kylie at the playground and the reminder of Holly teaching him to tie his shoelaces. I hope it wins awards, because Emmerdale definitely deserves the praise for this.
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Old 30-09-2016, 02:41
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We don't know if it was drugs that killed her though.

I have depression and a few years ago it was so bad I took an overdose. All it did was make me violently sick for about 2 hours. But everyone is different and every drug is different.
Being sick probably saved you.
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Old 30-09-2016, 06:24
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Old 30-09-2016, 09:48
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From my experience OD'ing once it was almost pleasant.

This isn't a recommendation and I did not state which drug in particular it was
TBF people who are in severe pain would like your advise for a pain-free death lol
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:27
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Sometimes, if you're very lucky (so probably not as you're overdosing)

Otherewise you are concious through assorted organ failures and other...unpleasantness.
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:41
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I'm always confused when they announce a death from an overdose (heroin related). I mean, did she take more than her usual dose? Was it just a bad batch? Or, is it an od because she had been clean for a good few weeks, so therefore calling it an overdose.

Quite a lot of celebrity deaths have been because of an overdose so just wondered
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:42
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Sometimes, if you're very lucky (so probably not as you're overdosing)

Otherewise you are concious through assorted organ failures and other...unpleasantness.
How do they do it in those assisted suicide places in Switzerland then? they offer pain-free deaths...
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:49
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How do they do it in those assisted suicide places in Switzerland then? they offer pain-free deaths...
By having highly trained professionals with a selection of pure drugs designed and adminstered for the purpose. Or even just changing the atmospheric mix a person breathes.

Not some almagamated rubbish that's been through dozens of hands with other chemicals added each time that was originally meant for a different purpose.
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:52
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I thought the open window was symbolic. Windows used to be open to let souls depart. I thought they were referencing that with the wind blowing out of the window. It was kind of like they did in Corrie with Deirdre but handled better.

I don't think we should dismiss it being an overdose or a dodgy batch of drugs. There's s no reason why, even though she was happy that she wouldn't feel the physical desire for heroin ( I think it's s heroin she used) and have a lapse.

Saying that Chris Bisson talked about a flashback episode on Twitter, so they must be planning on fleshing it out. I hope they don't t turn it into a whodunnit though. It was so beautifully done - a whodunnit would cheapen that IMO.
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Old 30-09-2016, 10:53
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How do they do it in those assisted suicide places in Switzerland then? they offer pain-free deaths...
At the Dignitas clinics in Switzerland, they use an overdose of pentobarbital dissolved in water. This causes respiratory arrest (causes the lungs to not function properly meaning the cessation of breathing) which kills the individual who wishes to die.

It is a pain free death, once the drug is taken, the person eats chocolate until they pass away (since the drug tastes horrible) and it looks like they go into a long sleep.

However, those administering the drug are highly trained and skilled, so it would be a lot different to taking an overdose of drugs.
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Old 30-09-2016, 11:12
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At the Dignitas clinics in Switzerland, they use an overdose of pentobarbital dissolved in water. This causes respiratory arrest (causes the lungs to not function properly meaning the cessation of breathing) which kills the individual who wishes to die.

It is a pain free death, once the drug is taken, the person eats chocolate until they pass away (since the drug tastes horrible) and it looks like they go into a long sleep.

However, those administering the drug are highly trained and skilled, so it would be a lot different to taking an overdose of drugs.
doesn't sound painless, does it!?
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