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Old 22-10-2016, 16:04
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Yes, I think it was Lisa who said that.

Yesterday I posted an updated list of the top 10 viewed dances on YouTube so far this series, and the only ballroom on the list is Danny's VW at number 9.


The YT popularity of latin over ballroom has got me wondering -without doing any analysis yet- if it's partly because they tend to use modern chart music for latin more often than in ballroom? I remember being mystified last year by the huge YT views GG's jive got despite the dance itself rarely being talked about, and wondered if it was because it was to Meghann Trainor's Dear Future Husband, which has squillions of views.
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Old 22-10-2016, 16:10
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Hello dippy, you asked where the list is, but seem to have deleted that bit from your post now.

Anyway, it's in the "Strictly Stats 2016" thread, which has now dropped to page 2.
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Old 22-10-2016, 16:21
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Hello dippy, you asked where the list is, but seem to have deleted that bit from your post now.

Anyway, it's in the "Strictly Stats 2016" thread, which has now dropped to page 2.
Yeah- I realised my mistake- I was looking in this thread rather than the Stats thread- doh

And thank you
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Old 23-10-2016, 08:41
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Having filled in many you gov polls over the years I wouldn't put my faith in anything they say. The way the polls are set up means the only answers they get are the ones they want.
One of the reasons I started the thread was to investigate whether or not the poll data were borne out by whatever information we can glean about the public vote from the actual results.
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:44
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The YT popularity of latin over ballroom has got me wondering -without doing any analysis yet- if it's partly because they tend to use modern chart music for latin more often than in ballroom? I remember being mystified last year by the huge YT views GG's jive got despite the dance itself rarely being talked about, and wondered if it was because it was to Meghann Trainor's Dear Future Husband, which has squillions of views.
I think you are right, the chart music must help enormously to get views. But also I think people like watching the party, happy dances more.
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Old 23-10-2016, 10:16
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Someone on the Stats thread (BMLisa?) said that latin dances almost always have higher viewing figures on YT and FB than ballroom, so maybe this is part of that trend?
That's true, but I don't think that translates into votes - overall, latin dances are slightly more likely to end up on the Bottom 2 than ballroom dances. I guess you could argue that latin dances have more positive impact if they're very good than ballroom dances do? Certainly if you look at the dances that are generally claimed "won it" for the series champions, most of them are latin.
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Old 23-10-2016, 10:55
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That's true, but I don't think that translates into votes - overall, latin dances are slightly more likely to end up on the Bottom 2 than ballroom dances. I guess you could argue that latin dances have more positive impact if they're very good than ballroom dances do? Certainly if you look at the dances that are generally claimed "won it" for the series champions, most of them are latin.
Interesting point as always with you.
What I find interesting is that ballroom does better on Facebook (granted it's not a video just a still) than it does on YouTube.

Overall, I think YouTube indicates consistent top popularity, but it's very inaccurate predicting bottom of popularity or surprising lack of it (Simon Webbe, Will Young... who should have been quite popular with that demographic).
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Old 28-10-2016, 16:09
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Week 6 update: When will Balls hit the buffers?

He has “danced” his way into the nation’s affections but YouGov’s latest Strictly tracker suggests that Ed Balls’ journey is running out of road.

The former shadow chancellor is facing twin problems when it comes to staying in the competition. Firstly, he is suffering from a decline in the number of viewers who think he is likely to win and a fall in the proportion of those who want him to prevail. Only 4% would like him to win, down on both last week and the week before that. In terms of how many viewers with an opinion believe he will win, he has been stuck on 1% for the past month.

Secondly, he is running out of people below him in the rankings to fill up the positions in the dance-off. In terms of who the public want to prevail, he only has Anastacia and Laura Whitmore below him and when it comes to which contestant viewers believe will lift the glitterball trophy he is level with Anastacia wat the bottom of the rankings.
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Hopefully he won't be helped by loads of ties this week. 🙏🏽
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:31
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Interesting article here on the Yougov polling website that seems to do a public opinion tracker on who people want to win Strictly. They guess that Ed Balls doesn't have much longer to go, but what I found more interesting was the second graph they have on the page showing the most popular dancers among the people Yougov sampled.
The graph goes up to just before last Saturday (so not totally up-to-date and not including the Halloween show) and shows the 4 most popular dancers at the end of week 5 were - in the following order- 1) Ore 2) Louise 3) Judge Rinder 4) Danny
As I said, interesting!

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/10/28...s-hit-buffers/
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:35
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There is an existing thread but it's dropped down the forum a bit:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2181853
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:37
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Interesting article here on the Yougov polling website that seems to do a public opinion tracker on who people want to win Strictly. They guess that Ed Balls doesn't have much longer to go, but what I found more interesting was the second graph they have on the page showing the most popular dancers among the people Yougov sampled.
The graph goes up to just before last Saturday (so not totally up-to-date and not including the Halloween show) and shows the 4 most popular dancers at the end of week 5 are - in the following order- 1) Ore 2) Louise 3) Judge Rinder 4) Danny
As I said, interesting!

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/10/28...s-hit-buffers/
Thank you for that, I do think Ore is popular "out there" so I am not surprised about that. Surprised that Louise and Judge Rinder are more popular then Danny who does need a very good dance soon particularly after last week.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:38
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Interesting article here on the Yougov polling website that seems to do a public opinion tracker on who people want to win Strictly. They guess that Ed Balls doesn't have much longer to go, but what I found more interesting was the second graph they have on the page showing the most popular dancers among the people Yougov sampled.
The graph goes up to just before last Saturday (so not totally up-to-date and not including the Halloween show) and shows the 4 most popular dancers at the end of week 5 were - in the following order- 1) Ore 2) Louise 3) Judge Rinder 4) Danny
As I said, interesting!

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/10/28...s-hit-buffers/
Blimey! Was not expecting that, tho audience noise gave a bit of a hint. Go Ore!!!

I'm seriously pleased and cheered by that. That'll larn me for treating DS as a mini version of the world.

Thank you for posting
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:46
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Bit worried that Danny is polling 4th in the polll but hopefully he is doing much more better in the live vote on Saturdays
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:48
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Bit worried that Danny is polling 4th in the polll but hopefully he is doing much more better in the live vote on Saturdays
Needs a wow dance quick.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:53
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Needs a wow dance quick.
Well he has the perfect dance to do that this weekend and anyway for me his QS was a wow dance.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:55
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Just based on the poll info, there is at least the potential that the 2 in this weeks dance off might be from:
Daisy, Laura (both been there before) and possible new entries Greg, Ed and Claudia.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:55
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Well he has the perfect dance to do that this weekend and anyway for me his QS was a wow dance.
Sadly for him upstaged by Ore's Jive on the same night.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:58
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Sadly for him upstaged by Ore's Jive on the same night.
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Old 01-11-2016, 22:58
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Eh...I remember graphs/polls telling us that Susanna was going to win in 2013 and she didn't; and this is just 1 small example. I don't think you can really gauge how people are voting by using that poll and many others.
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:02
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It may have been to you but not for me Danny's QS was superior to Ore' s Jive
Well I would say (just going by YouTube) that Ore had the more popular dance that week.
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:08
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I'm not arguing with any bugger over better or worse one week or the next! Just pleased to see Ore in the top four in that small sample snapshot. Was not expecting it at all, and now I'm happpyyyyyy
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:10
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Edy10, opinions can well change and preferences fluctuate as future weeks go by, and as a tracker poll it should be able to pick up on this. It is a snapshot of how people felt at the end of week 5 about who their favourite dancer in the show was.
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:13
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Eh...I remember graphs/polls telling us that Susanna was going to win in 2013 and she didn't; and this is just 1 small example. I don't think you can really gauge how people are voting by using that poll and many others.
Well no. You can't derive voting patterns. Based on that data, Ed would probably have been in the dance off the last two weeks, as his combined viewer vote and judges score would be low. It obviously isn't though. The questions are about winning the series rather than who is currently viewed as enjoyable and worth a vote.
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:14
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I'm not arguing with any bugger over better or worse one week or the next! Just pleased to see Ore in the top four in that small sample snapshot. Was not expecting it at all, and now I'm happpyyyyyy
Yes, seems all the Ore haters who keep trying to bash him in the DS forum universe don't reflect the outside world.
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Old 01-11-2016, 23:16
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Well no. You can't derive voting patterns. Based on that data, Ed would probably have been in the dance off the last two weeks, as his combined viewer vote and judges score would be low. It obviously isn't though. The questions are about winning the series rather than who is currently viewed as enjoyable and worth a vote.
That's an interesting perspective. So people polled are factoring in not just their own response (which might well be that Ed is and has been fabulous entertainment) but also their expectation of who will be there at the end based on their experience of how Strictly voting proceeds.

In that case it makes sense that Danny, Louise, Ore will be there because I guess most of us expect them to get very close to the final week. But it looks as though Judge Rinder is the popular outsider... Would his position be the one most open to fluctuation week by week I wonder???
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