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*SPOILER* Thread Week 2 - Please not discuss results elsewhere pre results show.
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JaneFinn
02-10-2016
Thanks for the results

Any Dancing on Ice fans remember what happened in the 2012-13 DOI series? IIRC it was down to the last 4 pairs, and as always, they had to do an aerial routine (don't ask me what flying on ropes has to do with ice skating, but hey!). Gareth Thomas was dreadfully motion sick doing it, despite meds, and couldn't make it through the performance without vomiting.

There was due to be a skate off (using a dance actually on ice) between the bottom 2. And after judge and audience scores, Gareth was (obviously) in the bottom 2. However, because he hadn't completed his aerial performance due to sickness, Gareth was not allowed to do the skate off. He was automatically sent home, even though he wasn't in any way injured and could have skated the skate off. And the other 3 went directly through to the final. Unlike BBC, ITV obviously decided it's fairer to penalise the one with the problem, not his/her competitors.

That seemed massively unfair to me at the time! Though maybe sending one of the others home would have been unfair too, even if he'd beaten them in the skate off.

The DOI incident was in the semi final... I'm not sure whether that makes it worse or better than here at the beginning. First elimination week, it seems a bit harsh to me to chuck someone off without a chance to win a dance off. I think I'd have preferred a 'hold over and 2 eliminations next week'. But I'm looking forward to seeing how they present it tonight
latinloulou
02-10-2016
Many thanks to all involved in supplying the results, I think the main board could go Into melt down later tonight
Chapelamble
02-10-2016
Undoubtedly this was a difficult situation and while I can accept it, if it was my decision, Anastacia would have gone.

The public votes have not been wasted because we have a bottom two. In the past when there has been a medical time out the consequences have been the same for all the other dancers. Here it is Melvin who is affected and since he got a higher judges score on the night he should stay.
Uafasach
02-10-2016
Just catching up as I was celebrating Dublin winning the All Ireland football final yesterday...

Interesting result to say the least, I am wondering what Anastasia's injury is and if it is linked to her cancer or her ongoing issue with Crohns disease. I mean to have to change a dance on the day of the show is pretty extreme. As for Melvin, there was potential there...

On the Google thing, it's all about search engine optimisation and phrase pickup and the bots just pick it up. The celebs can complain about the result being leaked but sorry that's what happens when you pre-record a Sunday show straight after the Saturday one...
cinna
02-10-2016
Very, very controversial decision, which flies in the face of common practice and fairness.

I know Strictly cannot be regarded as a "sport", but in sport, where one of the contestants fails to put in an appearance at the last minute, due to injury, the match is awarded to the contestant who does appear. It does not matter who probably would have lost or won.
IvanIV
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Major Chudley:
“I have never understood why they act like it's live when everyone knows it's recorded Saturday and there's nothing wrong with that, of course in a perfect world we would go back to the Saturday results show which I loved, it was my dinner break and then back to Strictly”

They do not say it's live, they avoid saying anything on the subject. They probably do not want to tell people they are watching a day old programme, it really does not worry me, I do not care.

As for the no DO decision, they could say that Anastacia's injury got worse so they let public vote decide. Although if it is that bad she should withdraw. But I can understand why she wouldn't. She's having a great time, laughing on all Claudia's lame jokes. It's a great place to be.
Monaogg
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Major Chudley:
“I have never understood why they act like it's live when everyone knows it's recorded Saturday and there's nothing wrong with that, of course in a perfect world we would go back to the Saturday results show which I loved, it was my dinner break and then back to Strictly”

Many still don't realise the show is all done on Saturday night.

You only have to go on the BBC Blogs to see the comments from people complaining about not being able to vote, long after the show has finished.
MACTOWIN
02-10-2016
I can't believe people can get upset about finding out who has been eliminated on a manipulates scripted reality Show before the Sunday Night Results Show.
VicsMum
02-10-2016
I went to bed early last night and only saw the spoiler now.

Well, I love Anastacia as the next gay man, but I'm not surprised she was in the DO. She was ploddy, stompy, very not fluid, and I'm not even talking about this week in which she was injured, I'm talking about last week as well.

Another point is, I don't think it was a very wise decision to cast a 48 year old who's beat cancer twice and has a multitude of chronic conditions including Chron's disease. One of my best friends has Chron's and it's a very debilitating condition, she's already had three operations to remove parts of her bowels and I lost count of how many long hospital stays she's had. Also, it can be triggered at any time, especially at stressful and physically challenging times. The training routine for Strictly is very intense if you want to dedicate yourself and take it seriously, I can't imagine a biggest trigger for Chron's than this. I'm not being prejudiced, but based on what I've seen from my friend over 20 years or so, I wouldn't say it was a clever decision. But those are the producers who cast Anthony Ogogo with one functioning arm only, so I'm not surprised.

Even if Melvin had the lowest amount of votes, it would be only fair he danced again. If there wasn't the DO that would be fine but in a series that there is a DO, I'm feeling sorry for him, even though he was the worst dancer in the night.
Tommo781
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I can't believe people can get upset about finding out who has been eliminated on a manipulates scripted reality Show before the Sunday Night Results Show.”

But they do! We are all different.
coppertop1
02-10-2016
The judges have never been fair or consistant in applying the rules about the dance off.

I don't know why anyone expects it now.
Sherlock_Holmes
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunnymeg:
“Thanks to all for the spoiler. I do wonder if Anastacia's injury is due to one of her previous medical conditions and she doesn't want it broadcast, as she is trying to be a positive role model for cancer survivors. Her health issues may have made the BBC more cautious about forcing a dance off than with other injured contestants.”

Yes, this seems most likely to me. You could see Brendan pointing to a certain area, indicating to Tess and the judges that it was something they knew about (and would they all have known about a recent injury?).

Mind you, as Oti can confirm, the BBC has a previous record with this type of thing. A medical is not required, it seems.
Sarah777
02-10-2016
Thanks for the spoiler guys. They have set a precedence now and it might come to haunt them, later on.
jtnorth
02-10-2016
I'm really sad. I like Melvin so obviously that effects how I think it should have gone, but I could tell he was the most likely to go last night. It's just a shame he didn't get the chance to learn a bit more. I'm sad and I hope he isn't too disappointed. I would have liked him to have had the chance to do better in the dance off even if he then went.

If Anastasia recovers and this turns out to be a one off thing that could happen to anyone, this is probably the best result. If this turns out to be a serious problem that will mean she drops out soon, especially if it is connected to her major health problems, I will feel that, setting aside what the programme makers should or should not have done, that she should have conceded if she couldn't dance and let Melvin go forward.

Rough on both of them, and a tough way to start the series. But I think this will be a year of divisive dance offs
Fudd
02-10-2016
Just thinking out loud - I wonder if they didn't carry everything over because the precedent of this, the semi final of series six, resulted in the placings in the public vote also being released. It's one thing doing it at the semi final stage when practically everyone knew how it had gone anyway but to release them in week two where everything is up in the air...
MACTOWIN
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“But they do! We are all different.”

We sure are, if it is so important for some people not to find out who has been eliminated on SCD imo is at best sad.
J.R
02-10-2016
Hind sight being a wonderful thing it would have been better if Anastasia had taken a bye from this weeks show altogether but I expect before the show she felt good enough to get through it . I imagine though having to spend the day rehearsing a new routine and then the show itself was too much for her (?). She was obviously struggling though. I thought the judges could have cut her a bit of slack under the circumstance - particularity Craig. His snippyness was a bit uncalled for.

I nearly didn't vote for her as I presumed she would be safe, fortunately hubby let me use his laptop for some extra votes so gave her a couple. I am surprised she ended up in the dance off, she seems quite popular so wonder if others thought she would be safe this week. As for the judges decision to send Melvin home without a dance off seems odd and unfair but I will wait to see what the judges say tonight.

Even with Anastasia's poorer performance tonight though she was still 3 points ahead of Melvin on the leader board so maybe that made a difference?. At the moment I just hope Anastasia is OK.
Claire_Almond
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by xorosetylerxo:
“Can someone explain the fuss about Austin?”

Austin in my opinion and may others was better than Lisa and especially in the dance off
Tommo781
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“We sure are, if it is so important for some people not to find out who has been eliminated on SCD imo is at best sad.”

I have a friend who thinks spoiler threads are the devil's spawn! I have to be very careful not to let on anything at all about the result.

Although she knows it is recorded on Saturday, she loves watching the results show with her daughter not knowing who has survived and who is in the DO until they are announced.

Each to their own.
IvanIV
02-10-2016
Craig was just jealous he wasn't the greatest diva there Although Anastacia seems very down to earth. And I actually like her dancing, mistakes and all, she has a great full body and she can move it, no stick insects in sight.
Claire_Almond
02-10-2016
There will be uproar on social media tonight !

I predicted Melvin would have gone as many people did on a thread started last week, I think the way he went is harsh, but also I`m in a mind to think it is fair. I remember the time when SCD didn`t have the dance off and to be honest I preferred it as the public has the final say.

However the rules are bottom 2 dance it off to give an opportunity to rectify errors so really should they have danced it off ? Until tonights show we won`t know how they decided Anatacia wouldn`t dance again, did the producers speak to both couples before the bottom 2 were revealed and give them the option to either both dance or go with lowest public scores . I suppose tonight will be interesting when the bottom 2 are revealed.
Monaogg
02-10-2016
At least the controversy makes watching the show tonight more worthwhile than usual.
Tommo781
02-10-2016
Can the mole tell us please what was said about no dance off?
Monaogg
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“Can the mole tell us please what was said about no dance off?”

All the information I got was to do with Anastacia's injury. So I presume any pain blockers she needed to get through the show, could not be topped up for a dance off.
NicPlays
02-10-2016
Hi, I just thought I'd let everyone involved in the spoiler know that on Anastacia's YouTube video someone posted the spoiler, and the same person did it quite a bit last year too.
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