Google Pixel (Nexus) phones unveiled on 4th October

Everything Goes · 30-09-2016, 22:38

Google will unveil its 2016 range of phones and devices on the 4th October 2016. They are expected to drop the Nexus branding and use Pixel instead.

While Google's phones have never really in my opinion beaten the likes of Samsung's flagships they seem to offer reasonable value. They also have better support than Android OEM's but fail to get anywhere near Apple's level of support and updates.

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Expect to see a five-inch Pixel and a 5.5-inch Pixel XL for fans of cramming giant gadgets into their jeans. Both phones are expected to sport 4GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 821 processor, 12-megapixel camera, fingerprint sensor (expected to remain on the back like the 2015 Nexus) and hopefully better battery life. The Pixel will have a 1080p display while the XL will mostly likely have a quad HD screen.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/30/...ber-4th-event/

Mark in Essex · 01-10-2016, 09:05

I was tempted to look into the new Google phone, but if the leaked images are correct why oh why do they have to have a massive bezel at the top and bottom of the phone?

I would have been looking at the XL version (moving up from 5.2" on my S5 to 5.5", but with that bezel it will make it as big as a Note with the 5.7" screen and their small bezel (just very slightly too big as I find with my works Note 4).

Also I prefer the dedicated 3 buttons at the bottom instead of on the screen, but I guess I could get use to that.

Everything Goes · 02-10-2016, 23:23

Here is a more official leak oops...

https://www.neowin.net/news/canadian...ew-pixel-phone

Mark in Essex · 03-10-2016, 08:42

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Here is a more official leak oops...

https://www.neowin.net/news/canadian...ew-pixel-phone

Doh - looks like it still has the same massive bezel.

Why make a phone like this nowadays.

lamby · 03-10-2016, 09:37

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Originally Posted by Mark in Essex

Doh - looks like it still has the same massive bezel.

Why make a phone like this nowadays.

Any news on the price?

Stig · 03-10-2016, 12:43

Pictures leaked from Carphone warehouse:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7342401.html

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It says that there will be 5-inch and 5.5-inch displays, Snapdragon 821 processors and 4GB of RAM. Customers will be able to choose between 32GB and 128GB of internal storage. The phones will also include what looks like a fingerprint scanner on the back for getting into it. And it will also have a USB C port on the bottom, for charging and data.

c4rv · 03-10-2016, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Stig

Pictures leaked from Carphone warehouse:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7342401.html

No 6" version to replace the Nexus 6 ?

Stig · 03-10-2016, 13:30

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Originally Posted by c4rv

No 6" version to replace the Nexus 6 ?

No, 5" and 5.5" by the look of it.

http://www.alphr.com/google/1004124/...absolute-beast

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 14:35

I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say;

Meh.

Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well.

Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like.

Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P.

I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things.

Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?...

Everything Goes · 03-10-2016, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say;

Meh.

Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well.

Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like.

Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P.

I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things.

Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?...

Once again I feel underwhelmed. As for updates Google have dropped the ball. Shafting Nexus 2013 owners with 2 OS updates instead of the anticipated 3 puts them in the same ball park as most premium Android OEM's. Other than fast track OS updates and security updates there is increasingly little to separate them. Plus the likes of Samsung and LG have done some marginal improvements in OS updates turnaround. I would say that Samsung do much more cutting edge phones than the Nexus (Pixel) series. Unless Google want to compete on price there is increasingly little point in bothering with them.

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 15:39

Last year, the Nexus 5X wasn't that great either. It seems Google isn't that bothered anymore, but feels it has to have something out there.

Pixel came out originally as something that was VERY special. What's special here? Not the design. Not the screen (no Samsung edge like tech or anything clever). Not the audio. The SoC? Well Snapdragon 821 isn't going to be exclusive to the phone for very long, if it hasn't already been beaten in China.

Battery life? Well, perhaps it will be better if SD821 is a lot more efficient than SD810. So maybe that.

As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates. That's the one thing the Nexus/Pixel has, but users still want something that looks good too.

Everything Goes · 03-10-2016, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Last year, the Nexus 5X wasn't that great either. It seems Google isn't that bothered anymore, but feels it has to have something out there.

Pixel came out originally as something that was VERY special. What's special here? Not the design. Not the screen (no Samsung edge like tech or anything clever). Not the audio. The SoC? Well Snapdragon 821 isn't going to be exclusive to the phone for very long, if it hasn't already been beaten in China.

Battery life? Well, perhaps it will be better if SD821 is a lot more efficient than SD810. So maybe that.

As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates. That's the one thing the Nexus/Pixel has, but users still want something that looks good too.

The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support......

aurichie · 03-10-2016, 16:00

It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable.

Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead

d123 · 03-10-2016, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates

and style and look...

ceepan · 03-10-2016, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say;

Meh.

Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well.

Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like.

Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P.

I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things.

Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?...

I suspect that Huawei wouldn't have been interested in being an ODM. They got exposure in the US by doing the Nexus 6P. The Pixel phones aren't going to have any manufacturer branding, so it isn't so appealing to them. HTC on the other hand will be happy to have some income from this deal.

People were very negative in the build up to the release of the 6P and that proved a success. We are at a point where it is very difficult to do something different and cutting edge with phone hardware. Google's expertise in software. They may have managed to keep the exciting stuff on that front under wraps.

I would wait until tomorrows announcement before making judgement.

Everything Goes · 03-10-2016, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurichie

It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable.

Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead

With the Nexus 2013 range it was 2 years and 9 months for OS updates. If you were to buy say an iPhone 7 I would expect 5 years of updates. Sadly Apple are miles ahead of everyone else.

Tablets on the other hand tend to be kept a lot longer than phones and OS updates are even more important.

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support......

Well, it will have Wi-Fi calling but who knows about VoLTE. That's another valid point, although it seems that this is being slowly sorted out - presumably at the request of a growing number of networks now using it.

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurichie

It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable.

Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead

When there are plenty of people with genuine concerns, I'm not sure you need to join in with such over the top sensationalist nonsense. And now a hashtag too?!

aurichie · 03-10-2016, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

When there are plenty of people with genuine concerns, I'm not sure you need to join in with such over the top sensationalist nonsense. And now a hashtag too?!

It would be a legitimate concern for me if I was dropping £500-£600 on a new phone. After 18 months, Google considers it obsolete and will no longer support it. No thanks.

Maybe you and/or others don't care about longevity of devices, but you don't get to decide what is a genuine concern for me. We the DS members just share them here and you can choose to ignore them, dismiss them (as you did in my case), or debate why I might be wrong.

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 18:59

I never said it wasn't an issue, but you don't need to blow it all out of proportion with sensationalist stuff (e.g. Note 7 for terrorists, phones exploding etc).

Google hasn't said it won't keep doing updates for older phones. It has just stopped guaranteeing it.

And I am with you on this, FWIW, but you know as well as I do that one thing with a Nexus phone is that it's dead easy to flash with another ROM. Nougat is already available for other models, and I expect most people who bought a Nexus phone are more clued up than the average punter, so will actually have the knowledge or means to flash a ROM.

bikerlad · 03-10-2016, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support......

With EE promoting the launch event, I'm hopeful that they will fully support it as well from day one. (Well ok, day 47)

Thine Wonk · 03-10-2016, 20:31

I wonder if Three's 800Mhz will work on it, and if you can select the band manually, that may sway me as it's likely to have an OLED screen I read, a USB-C, a rear fingerprint reader, so ticks most of the boxes for me.

It was either going to be that or the latest iPhone for me, I guess I'll decide when we know about Three support and VoLTE.

finbaar · 03-10-2016, 20:37

Arrrrghhhhh. Your all at it.

Thine Wonk · 03-10-2016, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

Arrrrghhhhh. Your all at it.

.....

jonmorris · 03-10-2016, 20:58

It has been reported that Huawei was first choice for the new phones, but refused given Google made a mess of the 6P launch - failing to promote it, or get any US networks to carry it.

Huawei was desperate to break it in America, and Google didn't help, so it opted out this time around and HTC stepped in. How late in the day is unknown, but looking at these I wonder if it was somewhere in the region of a fortnight ago.

30-09-2016, 22:38	#1
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Google Pixel (Nexus) phones unveiled on 4th October Google will unveil its 2016 range of phones and devices on the 4th October 2016. They are expected to drop the Nexus branding and use Pixel instead. While Google's phones have never really in my opinion beaten the likes of Samsung's flagships they seem to offer reasonable value. They also have better support than Android OEM's but fail to get anywhere near Apple's level of support and updates. Quote: Expect to see a five-inch Pixel and a 5.5-inch Pixel XL for fans of cramming giant gadgets into their jeans. Both phones are expected to sport 4GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 821 processor, 12-megapixel camera, fingerprint sensor (expected to remain on the back like the 2015 Nexus) and hopefully better battery life. The Pixel will have a 1080p display while the XL will mostly likely have a quad HD screen. https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/30/...ber-4th-event/

01-10-2016, 09:05	#2
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	I was tempted to look into the new Google phone, but if the leaked images are correct why oh why do they have to have a massive bezel at the top and bottom of the phone? I would have been looking at the XL version (moving up from 5.2" on my S5 to 5.5", but with that bezel it will make it as big as a Note with the 5.7" screen and their small bezel (just very slightly too big as I find with my works Note 4). Also I prefer the dedicated 3 buttons at the bottom instead of on the screen, but I guess I could get use to that.

02-10-2016, 23:23	#3
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Here is a more official leak oops... https://www.neowin.net/news/canadian...ew-pixel-phone

03-10-2016, 08:42	#4
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Here is a more official leak oops... https://www.neowin.net/news/canadian...ew-pixel-phone Doh - looks like it still has the same massive bezel. Why make a phone like this nowadays.

03-10-2016, 09:37	#5
lamby Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 3,332	Quote: Originally Posted by Mark in Essex Doh - looks like it still has the same massive bezel. Why make a phone like this nowadays. Any news on the price?

03-10-2016, 12:43	#6
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Pictures leaked from Carphone warehouse: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7342401.html Quote: It says that there will be 5-inch and 5.5-inch displays, Snapdragon 821 processors and 4GB of RAM. Customers will be able to choose between 32GB and 128GB of internal storage. The phones will also include what looks like a fingerprint scanner on the back for getting into it. And it will also have a USB C port on the bottom, for charging and data.

03-10-2016, 13:20	#7
c4rv Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 16,218	Quote: Originally Posted by Stig Pictures leaked from Carphone warehouse: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7342401.html No 6" version to replace the Nexus 6 ?

03-10-2016, 13:30	#8
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Quote: Originally Posted by c4rv No 6" version to replace the Nexus 6 ? No, 5" and 5.5" by the look of it. http://www.alphr.com/google/1004124/...absolute-beast

03-10-2016, 14:35	#9
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say; Meh. Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well. Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like. Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P. I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things. Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?...

03-10-2016, 14:55	#10
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say; Meh. Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well. Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like. Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P. I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things. Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?... Once again I feel underwhelmed. As for updates Google have dropped the ball. Shafting Nexus 2013 owners with 2 OS updates instead of the anticipated 3 puts them in the same ball park as most premium Android OEM's. Other than fast track OS updates and security updates there is increasingly little to separate them. Plus the likes of Samsung and LG have done some marginal improvements in OS updates turnaround. I would say that Samsung do much more cutting edge phones than the Nexus (Pixel) series. Unless Google want to compete on price there is increasingly little point in bothering with them.

03-10-2016, 15:39	#11
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Last year, the Nexus 5X wasn't that great either. It seems Google isn't that bothered anymore, but feels it has to have something out there. Pixel came out originally as something that was VERY special. What's special here? Not the design. Not the screen (no Samsung edge like tech or anything clever). Not the audio. The SoC? Well Snapdragon 821 isn't going to be exclusive to the phone for very long, if it hasn't already been beaten in China. Battery life? Well, perhaps it will be better if SD821 is a lot more efficient than SD810. So maybe that. As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates. That's the one thing the Nexus/Pixel has, but users still want something that looks good too.

03-10-2016, 15:53	#12
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Last year, the Nexus 5X wasn't that great either. It seems Google isn't that bothered anymore, but feels it has to have something out there. Pixel came out originally as something that was VERY special. What's special here? Not the design. Not the screen (no Samsung edge like tech or anything clever). Not the audio. The SoC? Well Snapdragon 821 isn't going to be exclusive to the phone for very long, if it hasn't already been beaten in China. Battery life? Well, perhaps it will be better if SD821 is a lot more efficient than SD810. So maybe that. As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates. That's the one thing the Nexus/Pixel has, but users still want something that looks good too. The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support......

03-10-2016, 16:00	#13
aurichie Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,100	It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable. Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead

03-10-2016, 16:05	#14
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris As you say, there's little point if this is what Google is going to produce as the most obvious direct competitor to the iPhone when people talk about support/updates and style and look...

03-10-2016, 16:28	#15
ceepan Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 58	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I've now seen the hi-res shots, the details of the features (thanks to CPW) and the specs and have to say; Meh. Okay, so there was a lot of negativity over the 6P last year and then it was announced and turned out to be really good at just about everything (yes, a Snapdragon 810 phone that was good). Great camera (still great to this day) and an amazing screen, plus great audio that - previously - was something only HTC really did well. Well, now it seems HTC isn't doing so well for anything and that really puts me off a lot more than what the phone looks like. Personally, I'll keep my Nexus 6P. I am not sure why Google is slowly reducing the screen size from the Nexus 6. Nor am I really sure why they didn't give Huawei another shot at doing things. Given Pixel is supposed to imply (going by the tablets and Chromebooks) the absolute best of the best, I am left wondering what the killer features are on either of these phones. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be good phones. And if Google surprises us by announcing that it isn't going to sell them at a hefty premium, like the old days, then that would change things a lot. But is that going to happen? A Pixel XL for £350 or something?... I suspect that Huawei wouldn't have been interested in being an ODM. They got exposure in the US by doing the Nexus 6P. The Pixel phones aren't going to have any manufacturer branding, so it isn't so appealing to them. HTC on the other hand will be happy to have some income from this deal. People were very negative in the build up to the release of the 6P and that proved a success. We are at a point where it is very difficult to do something different and cutting edge with phone hardware. Google's expertise in software. They may have managed to keep the exciting stuff on that front under wraps. I would wait until tomorrows announcement before making judgement.

03-10-2016, 16:37	#16
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by aurichie It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable. Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead With the Nexus 2013 range it was 2 years and 9 months for OS updates. If you were to buy say an iPhone 7 I would expect 5 years of updates. Sadly Apple are miles ahead of everyone else. Tablets on the other hand tend to be kept a lot longer than phones and OS updates are even more important.

03-10-2016, 17:19	#17
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support...... Well, it will have Wi-Fi calling but who knows about VoLTE. That's another valid point, although it seems that this is being slowly sorted out - presumably at the request of a growing number of networks now using it.

03-10-2016, 17:21	#18
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by aurichie It's shocking that even Google can't be bothered to support a device with updates for even 2 full years. The 18 month commitment is laughable. Apple really is the only player in town if you want to have a device that will be supported with updates for as long as a standard 24 month mobile phone contract. In truth, you'll probably get 5 years of iOS updates and support from Apple. #amillionmilesahead When there are plenty of people with genuine concerns, I'm not sure you need to join in with such over the top sensationalist nonsense. And now a hashtag too?!

03-10-2016, 18:28	#19
aurichie Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,100	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris When there are plenty of people with genuine concerns, I'm not sure you need to join in with such over the top sensationalist nonsense. And now a hashtag too?! It would be a legitimate concern for me if I was dropping £500-£600 on a new phone. After 18 months, Google considers it obsolete and will no longer support it. No thanks. Maybe you and/or others don't care about longevity of devices, but you don't get to decide what is a genuine concern for me. We the DS members just share them here and you can choose to ignore them, dismiss them (as you did in my case), or debate why I might be wrong.

03-10-2016, 18:59	#20
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I never said it wasn't an issue, but you don't need to blow it all out of proportion with sensationalist stuff (e.g. Note 7 for terrorists, phones exploding etc). Google hasn't said it won't keep doing updates for older phones. It has just stopped guaranteeing it. And I am with you on this, FWIW, but you know as well as I do that one thing with a Nexus phone is that it's dead easy to flash with another ROM. Nougat is already available for other models, and I expect most people who bought a Nexus phone are more clued up than the average punter, so will actually have the knowledge or means to flash a ROM.

03-10-2016, 20:14	#21
bikerlad Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 391	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes The other elephant in the room of course is VoLTE / WiFi Calling support...... With EE promoting the launch event, I'm hopeful that they will fully support it as well from day one. (Well ok, day 47)

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03-10-2016, 20:31	#22
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	I wonder if Three's 800Mhz will work on it, and if you can select the band manually, that may sway me as it's likely to have an OLED screen I read, a USB-C, a rear fingerprint reader, so ticks most of the boxes for me. It was either going to be that or the latest iPhone for me, I guess I'll decide when we know about Three support and VoLTE.

03-10-2016, 20:37	#23
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Arrrrghhhhh. Your all at it.

03-10-2016, 20:39	#24
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar Arrrrghhhhh. Your all at it. .....

03-10-2016, 20:58	#25
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	It has been reported that Huawei was first choice for the new phones, but refused given Google made a mess of the 6P launch - failing to promote it, or get any US networks to carry it. Huawei was desperate to break it in America, and Google didn't help, so it opted out this time around and HTC stepped in. How late in the day is unknown, but looking at these I wonder if it was somewhere in the region of a fortnight ago.