DS Forums

 
 

Does Danny Mac protest too much?


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-10-2016, 13:32
daniellejayne
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,430
No.

I don't really get this argument tbh. Just because he dances brilliantly each week doesn't mean he doesn't still find the training, and the process in making the dance so brilliant, difficult. He strikes me as a hard worker and so he's working to make the dance the best he can each week, and I do believe him when he says he's finding it difficult do do just that.
daniellejayne is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 02-10-2016, 13:35
Fairytootoo
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 291
I don't think he can win either way. If he doesn't say how difficult he finds it people will say he's smug. If he says he is finding it difficult people will say he's not being transparent.

My guess is that he did find it difficult. Whilst good, it was a far from perfect performance. Not entirely smooth movement, head in wrong position, left arm a bit low.
Nicely put!

He did say, from the off, he doesn't remember well and was nervous about 'being himself on screen'. And almost any technique he learned in stage school (not dance school, Arts Ed is very much triple threat), will be irrelevant to Latin + Ballroom.
To date, I'm not aware of any stage schools having Latin and/or ballroom on their curriculum, tho I'm happy to be proved wrong if anyone knows otherwise?
Fairytootoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 13:41
Puterkid
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,920
Well, whatever, I wish he'd shut up about how hard it is, and start enjoying it. It's getting annoying and repetitive now. He's obviously good, knows he's good, so stop the moaning!
Puterkid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 13:43
steeleuro_wolf
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 11,310
Just because he makes it look easy doesn't necessarily mean he finds it easy.
Exactly this. Claudia makes her gymnastics routines look easy in competitions, that doesn't mean the training is any less tough and gruelling.
steeleuro_wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 14:46
sofakat
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,110
On the BBC website he says that when he left ArtsEd he put his shoes and dance belt away and hasn't used them since!
Well he would say that, wouldn't he?

Some might fall for it, but not me. I don't really care though, as long as Oti has her ultimate year and can show everyone how talented she really is.
sofakat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 14:56
Hound of Love
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 56,112
Just because he makes it look easy doesn't necessarily mean he finds it easy.
Exactly.

Just like Louise Redknapp.
Hound of Love is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 15:01
sofakat
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,110
Exactly.

Just like Louise Redknapp.
Who has also had plenty of dance training. I should point out though that both are being given much harder routines than anyone else, because they can master them.

This means they do have to work harder than the others to learn them and not mess up.
sofakat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 15:14
sofakat
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,110
Nicely put!

And almost any technique he learned in stage school (not dance school, Arts Ed is very much triple threat), will be irrelevant to Latin + Ballroom.

To date, I'm not aware of any stage schools having Latin and/or ballroom on their curriculum
No, no stage school, (places like Italia Conti or ArtsEd) would teach ballroom or Ballroom Latin (as opposed to real latin dance forms) because they would not be regarded as classic dance forms. Ballet yes, stage yes - because they are stage schools but ballroom? Nope. What for? It's irrelevant to anyone but the ballroom world.

However dance training does give students a great head start with any other forms of dance because they will already be body aware, balanced and musical. Their co-ordination will be far better and they will have learned to use their body properly, point their feet, use the floor - and so and so forth.
sofakat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 16:03
edy10
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,443
I feel like some people are finding reasons to not like him. He won't win anyways so I don't know. ..why bother ?
edy10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 17:31
Fairytootoo
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 291
No, no stage school, (places like Italia Conti or ArtsEd) would teach ballroom or Ballroom Latin (as opposed to real latin dance forms) because they would not be regarded as classic dance forms. Ballet yes, stage yes - because they are stage schools but ballroom? Nope. What for? It's irrelevant to anyone but the ballroom world.

However dance training does give students a great head start with any other forms of dance because they will already be body aware, balanced and musical. Their co-ordination will be far better and they will have learned to use their body properly, point their feet, use the floor - and so and so forth.
As does gymnastics, but in a different way, of course.
More than anything my post meant to correct the 'dance school' myth that's being thrown around. I do have quite intimate knowledge of stage schools and dance schools, (sounds like you do too) they're very different beasties.
Fairytootoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 17:38
Cheryl423
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,506
Isn't this topic going to run and run every year ?

If you have knowledge of stage schools then you know what the training is - and what it is not. If you don't, it's harder to draw the line.

I don't know why the facts can't be established and then everyone is satisfied ie that stage schools do not teach ballroom and latin dancing with a partner.

Stage schools do teach the necessary skills of the stage - and if you want to go into a West End musical then you're going to need to sing, dance (maybe tap) but you're not going to need to ballroom or latin dance with a partner.

So the stage school grads might be more comfortable on the stage of Strictly, but arguably each celeb has an advantage from their particular genre that they bring to the show, otherwise why would then consider it a possibility to learn to dance ?

I do wish this argument could be put to bed once and for all! As with every single thing in life, it ain't fair and someone will always be better or worse than you at something. C'est la vie!
Cheryl423 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 17:50
hannah
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,352
Simple answer no he doesn't maybe he has experience in dance before but strictly is a different ball game and I honestly do believe him when he says he finds it hard.

Based on the two shows so far I believe there are people who will knock Danny anyway no matter how he does like Jay last year.
hannah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 19:39
Lisa_Charlene
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 855
I kinda liked him at the beginning, was almost tempted to put a bet on before the live shows started as I thought his odds were rather high considering he was a trained stage school dancer, as well as being extremely good looking and a stranger to shirt buttons - it all boded well for getting the votes needed to take him a long way into the competition

I'm really not too bothered that he's the ringiest of ringahs, and his extensive stage school training seems to have flown under the radar so far, but .... his lamenting each week during the training VTs "Oh wow, this is so hard, I'm really struggling - I'm going to be in trouble here!" and then coming out and absolutely smashing it, is starting to grate on my nerves big time. You're not fooling anyone Danny, you're great and you know it, so ffs please stop with the fake humble modesty and nervousness!
Agreed 100%
Lisa_Charlene is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 23:02
tinyangel
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,616
I'm sure he does find it hard at the beginning of each new dance, much the same as Alesha did and Kara and Jay. (all my personal favourites} What they all had in common is that they could all train for incredibly long hours cos they had nothing better to do, so by show day they were really well prepared.
Always an advantage to go into SCD unemployed I find.
tinyangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2016, 23:12
Mr Cellophane
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,203
I'm afraid the inane VTs are here to stay - TPTB think they are vital to attracting youngsters to watch the show; and they want the whole family sitting down to watch.

He is very ringery indeed, but hey, that means we get to see more of Oti, so that's good.
Mr Cellophane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 00:13
Toasted Toad
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,283
On the BBC website he says that when he left ArtsEd he put his shoes and dance belt away and hasn't used them since!
Isn't he supposed to have done 4 years in Wicked?
Toasted Toad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 00:36
Scorpio2
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,357
To be fair if he was saying that he's great and the routines are easy people would be calling him cocky and arrogant.
Scorpio2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 01:58
Miriam_R
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,320
Danny can dance, he's not hiding that, but leaning new routines can be hard at times, even for already accomplished dancers. We need to remember that because he's good, he's not dancing on the same level as others. Oti's routines for him are going to be harder than the likes of Ed's, Greg's, etc, so the training for him can be hard in the sense of getting a harder routine right, not that it's actually hard for him to dance. He's not a Latin/Ballroom pro, so while he might be accomplished in other disciplines, there are still things to be learned for him in Ballroom and Latin as well as polishing transferable dance skills from what disciples he does already know.
Miriam_R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 05:54
David Waine
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 2,270
Do people actually believe the VTs? They show them making a mess of some step (presumably filmed in the first five minutes of learning the routine) and the rest is completely scripted. Lo and behold, by the time they dance on Saturday night, they're fine - or as fine as they will ever be. These are just interludes of padding. Don't take them seriously.
David Waine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 06:04
Gill P
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 15,736
Isn't he supposed to have done 4 years in Wicked?
Yes but I am given to understand that there is not much ballroom/latin dancing in Wicked!

Jay is still my favourite dancer in all the series of Strictly but he has moved on now and we have a new bunch of celebrities to watch and/or support. I am looking forward to Big!
Gill P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 13:45
JohnStannard
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5,854
I Like them
JohnStannard is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:41.